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stipe145
Profile Joined December 2010
764 Posts
May 30 2011 11:19 GMT
#1701
Zerg doing spanishiwa build.
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 30 2011 11:19 GMT
#1702
On May 30 2011 20:16 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:13 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:09 hmunkey wrote:
A lot of people are blaming poor scouting and greediness for Junwi's loss, so would someone please enlighten me on how exactly he's supposed to scout that? There was a walloff (which he didn't even make it to because of the three marines at the 2nd ramp) and there were patrolling marines at the base perimeter. It's not like Junwi had scans or overlord speed that early.

And regarding the greediness: the only way to hold that off is to build several spines and cut drone production entirely. How is that even reasonable to do blind?

Junwi had enough lings to kill the 3 marines denying scouting. Instead he attacked his rocks. He could've whacked those marines and seen no CC, then gone allout defence and win easily.
He had 4 lings...

And even that aside, the barracks were behind the wall so he wouldn't have seen them anyways. Yeah, not seeing a CC would cause him to bulk up his defense a bit, but there's no way he could possibly have known there was actually a CC further back or not and his reaction would be a total gamble.

Could've sworn it was at least 6. Either way, he could've gotten into the nat and seen a CC.

True, you can't see if they have an inbase CC. But if it's inbase they aren't going to zoom ahead of you economically or anything, so you can afford a bit more safety, some lings or spines or whatever. If you're wrong and they're doing an inbase CC you lose...300 minerals and 2 drones MAX, 150/1 if you like cutting corners. That's worth the safety, and will not kill you if you're wrong.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 30 2011 11:19 GMT
#1703
On May 30 2011 20:18 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:17 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:16 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:15 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:08 Drazerk wrote:
Fourth And Final Match will be starting soon

CoCa vs NaDa

Game one will be played on Terminus RE


Game One is now Starting

At the 3 o clock position is Coca

While at the 9 is none other than NaDa


2:20

Hatchery first for Coca


4:00

Nada produces constant marines forcing ling and spine production from Coca


5:00

Command center is now on the way for Nada retreating his marine forces


7:00

Third base is going down for Coca while getting spine crawlers

Nada about to attack as he starts stim
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 30 2011 11:20 GMT
#1704
wow that push by NaDa was so smart!
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 11:20:52
May 30 2011 11:20 GMT
#1705
Coca is really good, I'm glad he's continuing to display some pretty awesome play.

Nice little timing attempt from Nada too, this looks like it could be a good series!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 30 2011 11:20 GMT
#1706
On May 30 2011 20:19 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:18 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:17 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:16 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:15 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:08 Drazerk wrote:
Fourth And Final Match will be starting soon

CoCa vs NaDa

Game one will be played on Terminus RE


Game One is now Starting

At the 3 o clock position is Coca

While at the 9 is none other than NaDa


2:20

Hatchery first for Coca


4:00

Nada produces constant marines forcing ling and spine production from Coca


5:00

Command center is now on the way for Nada retreating his marine forces


7:00

Third base is going down for Coca while getting spine crawlers

Nada about to attack as he starts stim


8:30

Bio weapons +1 is now starting as nada's push is cleaned up with Coca losing some spines and a lot of zerlings
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 30 2011 11:21 GMT
#1707
On May 30 2011 20:19 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:16 hmunkey wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:13 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:09 hmunkey wrote:
A lot of people are blaming poor scouting and greediness for Junwi's loss, so would someone please enlighten me on how exactly he's supposed to scout that? There was a walloff (which he didn't even make it to because of the three marines at the 2nd ramp) and there were patrolling marines at the base perimeter. It's not like Junwi had scans or overlord speed that early.

And regarding the greediness: the only way to hold that off is to build several spines and cut drone production entirely. How is that even reasonable to do blind?

Junwi had enough lings to kill the 3 marines denying scouting. Instead he attacked his rocks. He could've whacked those marines and seen no CC, then gone allout defence and win easily.
He had 4 lings...

And even that aside, the barracks were behind the wall so he wouldn't have seen them anyways. Yeah, not seeing a CC would cause him to bulk up his defense a bit, but there's no way he could possibly have known there was actually a CC further back or not and his reaction would be a total gamble.

Could've sworn it was at least 6. Either way, he could've gotten into the nat and seen a CC.

True, you can't see if they have an inbase CC. But if it's inbase they aren't going to zoom ahead of you economically or anything, so you can afford a bit more safety, some lings or spines or whatever. If you're wrong and they're doing an inbase CC you lose...300 minerals and 2 drones MAX, 150/1 if you like cutting corners. That's worth the safety, and will not kill you if you're wrong.

If you make 8 or so lings early on "just in case" youre going to be behind economically.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
May 30 2011 11:21 GMT
#1708
If nada loses...I might have to go to the hospital
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 30 2011 11:21 GMT
#1709
On May 30 2011 20:20 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:19 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:18 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:17 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:16 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:15 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:08 Drazerk wrote:
Fourth And Final Match will be starting soon

CoCa vs NaDa

Game one will be played on Terminus RE


Game One is now Starting

At the 3 o clock position is Coca

While at the 9 is none other than NaDa


2:20

Hatchery first for Coca


4:00

Nada produces constant marines forcing ling and spine production from Coca


5:00

Command center is now on the way for Nada retreating his marine forces


7:00

Third base is going down for Coca while getting spine crawlers

Nada about to attack as he starts stim


8:30

Bio weapons +1 is now starting as nada's push is cleaned up with Coca losing some spines and a lot of zerlings


10:00

Coca is finishing his lair and baneling nest while getting Zergling speed

Nada getting siege tech
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 30 2011 11:22 GMT
#1710
i like this timing, just before muta can harras him
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 30 2011 11:22 GMT
#1711
Cancer jokes are fucking hilarious.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
May 30 2011 11:22 GMT
#1712
SOOOOOOO-HO-HO-HO-HO many banelings! - Artosis
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 30 2011 11:22 GMT
#1713
On May 30 2011 20:21 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:20 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:19 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:18 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:17 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:16 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:15 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:08 Drazerk wrote:
Fourth And Final Match will be starting soon

CoCa vs NaDa

Game one will be played on Terminus RE


Game One is now Starting

At the 3 o clock position is Coca

While at the 9 is none other than NaDa


2:20

Hatchery first for Coca


4:00

Nada produces constant marines forcing ling and spine production from Coca


5:00

Command center is now on the way for Nada retreating his marine forces


7:00

Third base is going down for Coca while getting spine crawlers

Nada about to attack as he starts stim


8:30

Bio weapons +1 is now starting as nada's push is cleaned up with Coca losing some spines and a lot of zerlings


10:00

Coca is finishing his lair and baneling nest while getting Zergling speed

Nada getting siege tech


12:00

Spire and baneling speed finish as Nada gets his third base and pushes across the map
DizzySheep
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1144 Posts
May 30 2011 11:23 GMT
#1714
On May 30 2011 20:22 L3g3nd_ wrote:
i like this timing, just before muta can harras him


lol what don't you like about nada :X?
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 30 2011 11:23 GMT
#1715
On May 30 2011 20:21 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:19 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:16 hmunkey wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:13 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:09 hmunkey wrote:
A lot of people are blaming poor scouting and greediness for Junwi's loss, so would someone please enlighten me on how exactly he's supposed to scout that? There was a walloff (which he didn't even make it to because of the three marines at the 2nd ramp) and there were patrolling marines at the base perimeter. It's not like Junwi had scans or overlord speed that early.

And regarding the greediness: the only way to hold that off is to build several spines and cut drone production entirely. How is that even reasonable to do blind?

Junwi had enough lings to kill the 3 marines denying scouting. Instead he attacked his rocks. He could've whacked those marines and seen no CC, then gone allout defence and win easily.
He had 4 lings...

And even that aside, the barracks were behind the wall so he wouldn't have seen them anyways. Yeah, not seeing a CC would cause him to bulk up his defense a bit, but there's no way he could possibly have known there was actually a CC further back or not and his reaction would be a total gamble.

Could've sworn it was at least 6. Either way, he could've gotten into the nat and seen a CC.

True, you can't see if they have an inbase CC. But if it's inbase they aren't going to zoom ahead of you economically or anything, so you can afford a bit more safety, some lings or spines or whatever. If you're wrong and they're doing an inbase CC you lose...300 minerals and 2 drones MAX, 150/1 if you like cutting corners. That's worth the safety, and will not kill you if you're wrong.

If you make 8 or so lings early on "just in case" youre going to be behind economically.

This idea that Zerg is behind if they ever make anything but drones is hilarious.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 11:24:08
May 30 2011 11:23 GMT
#1716
Come on Nada, please don't lose.

If he does, either Coca, Kyrix, Virus or Line will be in the Ro8.

Edit: Just realized how well ZeNex is doing today.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 30 2011 11:23 GMT
#1717
On May 30 2011 20:22 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:21 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:20 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:19 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:18 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:17 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:16 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:15 Drazerk wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:08 Drazerk wrote:
Fourth And Final Match will be starting soon

CoCa vs NaDa

Game one will be played on Terminus RE


Game One is now Starting

At the 3 o clock position is Coca

While at the 9 is none other than NaDa


2:20

Hatchery first for Coca


4:00

Nada produces constant marines forcing ling and spine production from Coca


5:00

Command center is now on the way for Nada retreating his marine forces


7:00

Third base is going down for Coca while getting spine crawlers

Nada about to attack as he starts stim


8:30

Bio weapons +1 is now starting as nada's push is cleaned up with Coca losing some spines and a lot of zerlings


10:00

Coca is finishing his lair and baneling nest while getting Zergling speed

Nada getting siege tech


12:00

Spire and baneling speed finish as Nada gets his third base and pushes across the map


13:30

Nada is sieged up but Coca has a HUGE amount of banelings
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 30 2011 11:23 GMT
#1718
He really wanted to kill those 6 marines huh
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 30 2011 11:24 GMT
#1719
is that 75 droines? holy shit if so gg
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Onieh
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands104 Posts
May 30 2011 11:24 GMT
#1720
On May 30 2011 20:22 Goibon wrote:
Cancer jokes are fucking hilarious.


the word tumor isnt a synonym to cancer you know
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