No exception, Jinro had a fairly easy opponent(coca) compared to hard opponents like huk's(marineking, MMA). If huk loses its acceptable, but jinro should not have lost this. Right now, he is code A material.

Azuroz

Sweden1630 Posts

May 09 2011 19:48 GMT

#2222

i feel like im still watching jinro from season 3, his strategy's feel outdated and his unit control was quite poor compared to the standards of a code S level terran these days.
i hope he can take something from this loss and work harder than ever to get back, go jinro!

TooN

1046 Posts

May 09 2011 19:49 GMT

#2223

Funny that some of you are saying drewbie can make code S now hahhah. He might of been able to make it in season 1, but in the current state of sc2 in GSL, I highly doubt a player like drewbie will qualify for code a, then make it to up and down, then get code S. Sorry, but thats just my opinion.

Lori_ftw

Germany286 Posts

May 09 2011 19:50 GMT

#2224

HuK defeated MMA on ladder yesterday. Granted, it was on ladder, but he definitely had a chance to advance. Don't rule him out yet.

I'm sure they're Diamond-Leaguers who beat MC on the Ladder, so no one cares about the ladder. It would be a major upset if HuK stays in CodeS.

Grumbels

Netherlands7032 Posts

May 09 2011 19:53 GMT

#2225

Does anyone buy the notion that the oGs house would have noticeably better internet than other team houses? I mean, as if one random place in Seoul would be better than the other. I know some people have said that, but were they really able to compare it objectively?

papaz

Sweden4149 Posts

May 09 2011 20:10 GMT

#2226

sad to see Jinro in code A.

Jinro invests sooo much in the early pressure. He is so depending on the early pressure it's not funny.

He needs to get a more "safe" style in the opening. Today it felt like all of the games were make or break in the first minute for Jinro.

What happened to macro-gorilla-terran style?

Today was so season 3

Kamais_Ookin

Canada4218 Posts

May 09 2011 20:13 GMT

#2227

Damn, surprised to see Jinro knocked out so easily, I'd way rather he was in Code S instead of trickster.

Rasky

United States406 Posts

May 09 2011 20:16 GMT

#2228

Can't believe Jinro lost in such an easy group.

blackbrrd

Norway477 Posts

May 09 2011 20:23 GMT

#2229

Watching Jinro play was just painful, he lost those games so hard...

I have been impressed by Coca's play earlier and Zenio did a really nice take on the Spanishwa build. To me it really looked like Jinro was read like a book and unable to take good strategic deceisions. His game looked really stale - kind of like from gsl3 or something. He actually made Zerg look overpowered - just like protoss in the first seasons made terran look overpowered.

vict1019

United States401 Posts

May 09 2011 20:27 GMT

#2230

Sad to see Jinro fall. He should go back to Europe and compete in NA/EU tournaments imo.

supersoft

Germany3729 Posts

May 09 2011 20:38 GMT

#2231

This new game rating system with the stars really sucks... it's too many stars... Next time back to Yes/No/If you have time or just 1,2,3 stars...

lorkac

United States2297 Posts

May 09 2011 20:56 GMT

#2232

The stars are great, don't listen to them. It gives a more accurate meter of quality compared to the more binary yes/no system.

Sein

United States1811 Posts

May 09 2011 21:11 GMT

#2233

On May 10 2011 04:53 Grumbels wrote:
Does anyone buy the notion that the oGs house would have noticeably better internet than other team houses? I mean, as if one random place in Seoul would be better than the other. I know some people have said that, but were they really able to compare it objectively?

It depends on their ISP.

Sein

United States1811 Posts

May 09 2011 21:15 GMT

#2234

On May 10 2011 04:50 Lori_ftw wrote:

Show nested quote +

I'm sure they're Diamond-Leaguers who beat MC on the Ladder, so no one cares about the ladder. It would be a major upset if HuK stays in CodeS.

lol, yeah, I'm guessing neither player went all out that game considering their group games are coming up very soon.

1Eris1

United States5797 Posts

May 09 2011 21:16 GMT

#2235

Sucks for Jinro but honestly he really should have won these games. Only one MU to practice for?
Two zergs who are by no means super amazing? 2 chances?
It's dissapointing, he couldn't have gotten much better an oppurtunity

Irave

United States9965 Posts

May 09 2011 21:19 GMT

#2236

I was certain Jinro would have stayed in code S, I'm really surprised he dropped down into a. I know its early to discuss, but I wounder if he has any intentions of moving back home with how big sc2 is there right now.

Mailing

United States3087 Posts

May 09 2011 21:22 GMT

#2237

Ouch, does up and down count in TLPD?

All: 21-17 (55.26%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L W W W L L W L L
vT: 6-4 (60.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W L W L L L W W
vZ: 8-5 (61.54%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W L L W W W L L
vP: 7-8 (46.67%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L L W W W L L W

will go down to

All: 22-21 (51.17%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L W W W L L W L L
vT: 6-4 (60.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W L W L L L W W
vZ: 9-9 (50.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L W L L L W W W L L
vP: 7-8 (46.67%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L L W W W L L W

Markwerf

Netherlands3728 Posts

May 09 2011 21:36 GMT

#2238

Too bad for Jinro but it seems he just isn't good enough for GSL anymore. GSL is fierce competition.
I expect the liquid guys to pack their bags and try their luck in other tournaments, financially much more attractive for them.

Al Bundy

7257 Posts

May 09 2011 21:47 GMT

#2239

Hey I jus watched Coca vs. Jinro. I haven't watched Jinro vs. Zenio yet but I'm sad that Jinro lost to Coca. However, Coca's decision making was incredible. Well played by him.

Mordiford

4448 Posts

May 09 2011 21:57 GMT

#2240

On May 10 2011 04:49 TooN wrote:
Funny that some of you are saying drewbie can make code S now hahhah. He might of been able to make it in season 1, but in the current state of sc2 in GSL, I highly doubt a player like drewbie will qualify for code a, then make it to up and down, then get code S. Sorry, but thats just my opinion.

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility, if you read my posts I said that I don't think anyone could make a straight shoot to Code S at this point, it's become very difficult and very competitive.

Even top players would have to actually take the time out and make a commitment to stick with it. Given 6 or so months in Korea, I think Drewbie could make it into Code S. You have to remember that even Jinro failed to qualify twice.

GSL is really difficult for players outside of Korea because they have to take themselves out of their element and make a huge commitment of time and resources, if they mess up even once, they're on the bench for 3 months and all the while they are missing out on the foreign goings-on unless they want to add additional expense for flying around. It's even more huge pressure for foreigners who don't have a setup like Liquid with a host team, if you mess up, you're basically burning money and wasting time.