[GSL] Up & Down Matches Day 1 - Page 114

On May 10 2011 09:53 sashamunguia wrote:
im kinda suprised how every thread sooner or later discusses about idra lol

anyways, I'd "like" to say Jinro had a bad day, but that would be false, he strongly prepared for this 2 tvz this is only one match, and show similar strategies on the same 6 games, idk, it just feels like he's out of shape right now or that simply he's lost his momentum. Hope he does well on Code A, but most of all, i HOPE new foreigners join gsl asap

nice try Jinro, Huk needs to impress everyone tonight :/

On May 10 2011 09:39 fatvirgin wrote:


Huk didn't even qualify for Code A.

On May 10 2011 06:57 Mordiford wrote:


I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility, if you read my posts I said that I don't think anyone could make a straight shoot to Code S at this point, it's become very difficult and very competitive.

Even top players would have to actually take the time out and make a commitment to stick with it. Given 6 or so months in Korea, I think Drewbie could make it into Code S. You have to remember that even Jinro failed to qualify twice.

GSL is really difficult for players outside of Korea because they have to take themselves out of their element and make a huge commitment of time and resources, if they mess up even once, they're on the bench for 3 months and all the while they are missing out on the foreign goings-on unless they want to add additional expense for flying around. It's even more huge pressure for foreigners who don't have a setup like Liquid with a host team, if you mess up, you're basically burning money and wasting time.

On May 10 2011 10:52 red4ce wrote:
Am I missing something here? In game 2 against Coca and game 3 against Zenio, Jinro's bunker rush was successful and killed the zerg's natural hatchery. Yet in both games he was eventually overrun by superior zerg macro. If a successful 11 rax 11 rax double bunker pressure still results in a loss, then it simply isn't a good build. Maybe Jinro should have pulled fewer scv's?

On May 10 2011 13:55 yawnoC wrote:
Watching Jinro in these games did not remind me at all of the Jinro I learned to love watching. Hopefully it is just a small slump and he can make a big turn around next season in Code A to make it back to Code S.

On May 10 2011 09:50 SilverforceX wrote:
Don't even blame it on Terran being "weak". There are so many other terrans doing great, many.

It's just being outplayed, that's it. Good luck to Jinro in the next season, hopefully he will do better.

On May 10 2011 09:53 sashamunguia wrote:
im kinda suprised how every thread sooner or later discusses about idra lol

On May 10 2011 14:20 fatvirgin wrote:


lol what? Mvp is the best SC2 player in the world, and besides him Terran have been having trouble. Nada lost to 2 different all ins from Inca, who plays a race that have about a dozen different all ins that can out right kill Terran. Jinro was stomped by Zerg in the up and down matches, and was stomped by Zerg in the Korea vs The World GSL.The only games Nestea lost to SC, quite a good player, were to bunker rushes. In fact, the only games I see Zerg lose to Terran are bunker rushes, even though they don't complain when they do high economy baneling aggression that destroys a Terran, or just play them in a macro game, destroy their entire army with 2 fungals, tech to broodlords and win.

Idra complains about imbalance, but the only games he's ever lost to Select were bunker rushes, and he lost two games to TLO at MLG from cheese. It's just hard for Terran right now in TvZ vs a similarly skilled opponent.

On May 10 2011 03:43 Zzoram wrote:
I don't know what's happened to Liquid. All their players seem to be slumping hard. Maybe Koreans are improving faster than Jinro and Huk are, maybe they just lost their confidence. The things that stand out to me are micro mistakes and poor reaction to what's going on in the game. It's like once they get set on a strategy, they'll do it despite their opponent knowing it and preparing to hard counter it. Basically they've been playing like robots lately.

I believe Idra is better than anyone on Liquid. He gets a lot of flack but he is far more consistent a player than anyone on Liquid and hasn't slumped yet. Idra's new ZvP style is also very successful and aggressive and I like it. I think very few foreigners have a serious shot at getting into Code S now, the level of competition is really high. I suspect a guy like Naniwa can do it since he had the mental fortitude to perform at the LAN environment of MLG. Most foreign players seem to perform best online from the comfort of their home, and fall apart at LANs.