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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On March 14 2011 05:08 asha wrote: And you do? not like your the top player in NA, Me neither, But atleast im closer then you This is a pretty poor troll attempt, that or you live under a rock. | ||
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koolaid1990
831 Posts
On March 14 2011 05:02 dizzy101 wrote: Exactly. Naniwa punished a greedy zerg who reaches 200 first without harrassing or dropping or trying aggressive play.. and then ppl say Idra played better? Very strange. oh so now zerg turns into the aggressive race instead of the macro race, great. | ||
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
On March 14 2011 04:56 ftd.rain wrote: At one point naniwa had 110 supply and Idra 175, you guys can keep on lying to yourselves, but Idra played much better, period. I didn't realize that SC2 declared a better player by a race to 200/200. You know you actually have to eliminate the other persons army right? Naniwa clearly took a slow and steady approach and poked and prodded when he needed to and beat Idra. There is no doubt Idra is a good player but he either needs to quit the game or stop bitching and moaning and play the game you're given. Every win of his is "SUPERIOR PLAY" while all of his losses are "IMBA IMBA IMBA I HATE THIS GAME" Get's so old... | ||
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Inky87
United States533 Posts
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On March 14 2011 05:09 koolaid1990 wrote: oh so now zerg turns into the aggressive race instead of the macro race, great. Do you always look at things this black and white? There is an in-between... | ||
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Sermokala
United States14151 Posts
On March 14 2011 05:09 Raiznhell wrote: From what I saw IdrA didn't have Ovies or Zerglings positioned at the tunnels and taking Meta-game vs Zerg into consideration it should be essential for Zerg to have a permanent scout at those rocks/tunnels at all times after taking a 3rd. He also didn't take the gases at the two bottom bases he took from what I saw causing him to not be able to crank out enough Hydra or change his Corruptors into Broodlords. He also made WAY too many Corruptors for how many Collossi there were IMO. Those are just my criticisms as an amateur as to why he lost so. idra smashed those colossi thats why naniwa had to transition to immo's to survive until he could get storm | ||
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Naniwa
Sweden477 Posts
At one point naniwa had 110 supply and Idra 175, you guys can keep on lying to yourselves, but Idra played much better, period. i dont want to argue with anyone about whats wrong and right etc, but Ofcourse its easier to max out on roaches when i invest in only gas heavy units... -_- probably stupid of me to even post this.. but whatever .  | ||
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TT1
Canada10045 Posts
On March 14 2011 05:08 asha wrote: And you do? not like your the top player in NA, Me neither, But atleast im closer then you if i didnt have knowledge about something i surely wouldnt make a bullshit post just for the sake of posting something, the reason why this site has become so disgusting is because u have to filter throught 50 retarded posts just to find 1 that makes any sense | ||
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polarity
53 Posts
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
The sad part is people are ACCEPTING this. They say it's the new "metagame". It's not how this game was designed to be played... | ||
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OTL
313 Posts
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mdma-_-
Nauru1213 Posts
On March 14 2011 05:12 Naniwa wrote: On March 14 2011 04:56 ftd.rain wrote: At one point naniwa had 110 supply and Idra 175, you guys can keep on lying to yourselves, but Idra played much better, period. i dont want to argue with anyone about whats wrong and right etc, but Ofcourse its easier to max out on roaches when i invest in only gas heavy units... -_- probably stupid of me to even post this.. but whatever . happy birthday !! | ||
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Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
I don't think he had (enough or any) corruptors to defend at the 1 oclock main.. The 9-range of the collossi with nothing for IdrA to take them down would have pretty much lost him the game right there. | ||
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ratMortar
Canada282 Posts
On March 14 2011 05:00 TT1 wrote: if idra positioned his units inside the 1olock main(in the early game when he loss the 1oclock nat) to intercept naniwa's units instead of letting him walk inside the base uncontested then he would have won(even if they would have never engaged) because naniwa would have been sitting on a shitty unit compo and idra would have had a sick eco to tech to broodlords after the big 200 vs 200 engagement while remaxing his ground army losing that 1oclock cost him the game and it was something he could have easily avoided with better scouting It was definately a huge hit but I don't know if that's what cost him the game. Nani's last push with Stalker/Immortal would have been stopped if IdrA's Hydra count was higher. While you can factor in the loss of the 1 o'clock base, I saw someone mention that the exposed expansions on the bottom weren't mining gas at all. Naniwa wasn't producing any Colossus at that point so it should have at least bought IdrA time that Nani didn't have. | ||
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HeroHenry
United States1723 Posts
On March 14 2011 05:14 OTL wrote: Is there a link to the VODs? I don't see it anywhere in the OP. http://www.justin.tv/gosucoachingtv/b/281494650 <-VOD | ||
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Sermokala
United States14151 Posts
EDIT: Oh yeah thats why naniwa won it was his birthday :p | ||
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HavoK.
United States172 Posts
On March 14 2011 05:10 Hrrrrm wrote: I didn't realize that SC2 declared a better player by a race to 200/200. You know you actually have to eliminate the other persons army right? Naniwa clearly took a slow and steady approach and poked and prodded when he needed to and beat Idra. There is no doubt Idra is a good player but he either needs to quit the game or stop bitching and moaning and play the game you're given. Every win of his is "SUPERIOR PLAY" while all of his losses are "IMBA IMBA IMBA I HATE THIS GAME" Get's so old... Agreed if Idra was up that much and Naniwa managed to somehow pull out on top, Naniwa definitely was doing something right. | ||
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Staboteur
Canada1873 Posts
On March 14 2011 05:04 1Eris1 wrote: This is a myth honestly. Stalkers vs Hydras is very even in terms of cost and supply. People for some reason think that Hydras roflown gateway units when they honestly don't. They need to be on creep to face zealots as well. What owns gateway units, is Hydra DPS, protected by ling/roach tanking. They're the go-to Zerg response to mass gateway. Sure, you can't make just Hydras, but that's true of any "Counter". Colossus beat the shit out of most zerg ground, but they too need things in front that make them much harder to kill. My point was that IdrA didn't struggle there because Hydras aren't to gateway balls as colossus are to Zerg ground, but because his engagements with them were poorly orchestrated and inefficiently used. Whether or not he had any other options is a whole different story, but the dude I quoted saying "WELL HYDRAS DONT COUNTER GATEWAYS GG" seemed about as fair a statement as Colossus not countering Zerg ground if you attempt to use them alone, scattered from each other, and at melee range. | ||
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TT1
Canada10045 Posts
On March 14 2011 05:14 ratMortar wrote: It was definately a huge it but I don't know if that's what cost him the game. Nani's last push with Stalker/Immortal would have been stopped if IdrA's Hydra count was higher. While you can factor in the loss of the 1 o'clock base, I saw someone mention that the exposed expansions on the bottom weren't mining gas at all. Naniwa wasn't producing any Colossus at that point so it should have at least bought IdrA time that Nani didn't have. u cant have a high hydra count when u have 15 idol corruptors sitting around because u dont have the eco to brood tech, after z whipes out the collo count p is obv gonna switch to ground and idra didnt have enought eco to defend the switch | ||
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