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Space Invader
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia291 Posts
March 14 2011 11:36 GMT
#781
damn, was not expecting naniwa to 2-0 incontrol and 2-1 idra, props to him i guess
I may be of thome athithtanthe if there ith a thudden crithith!
CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
March 14 2011 11:47 GMT
#782
what you were expecting Incontrol to beat Naniwa? LOL, they guy is an average pro level player at best
Chill Winston......
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
March 14 2011 13:13 GMT
#783
On March 14 2011 13:50 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 12:32 tyCe wrote:
On March 14 2011 09:17 imbs wrote:
On March 14 2011 09:11 kNyTTyM wrote:
Meh I've stopped following Idra as much as I did before. His style just doesn't suit zerg at the moment and I doubt a patch is going to help.

idras "style" is arguably the way zerg was meant to be played. julys style is extremely risky all-in stuff most of the time.

IdrA's style is not the way zerg is meant to be played. He lacks the multi-tasking and the APM to play it at its full potential (and dare I say, his decision-making is questionable). If Jaedong was playing SC2, he would be macroing better than IdrA, attacking better than July and make decisions better than NesTea. He would make zerg ridiculously imbalanced.

If you want to call July's style "all-in", then I just pity your self-righteous limitation on strategy. July senses an opportunity and responds accordingly like any good RTS player. July proactively scouts for these opportunities whilst IdrA only looks for moments to drone up, take an extra expo, or end the game right there. He lacks the brutal decisiveness to seize every single advantage he can get, which is the trademark of every single great zerg player in the history of BW.


So what you are saying is that IdrA is a macro player, and Zerg is, surprisingly, not really a macro race. There is some sense in this, especially as we recall that IdrA's original reason for picking Zerg was because everyone thought Zerg was the macro race. It turns out, however, that other races are actually more macro-friendly while Zerg is left with the task of stopping Protoss and Terran before they reach "critical mass." Ironically Protoss and Terran are the two races that would favor IdrA's defensive macro-oriented play more in the current meta-game.


Yet in BW he played the race that could sit back until 200/200 and move out, yet still complained about it being imbalanced or people beating him 'played badly'. Maybe people should stop overrating him and encouraging his whining. Even if there is imbalance, he's playing a race that doesn't fit the style hes trying to play and hes not playing perfectly when macroing.
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
March 14 2011 13:36 GMT
#784
Naniwa has come a really really long way. Remember seeing his games in the beta and, having just come from bw, I was in shock that he was considered a good player. His game now is totally different. GG
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whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
March 14 2011 17:46 GMT
#785
On March 14 2011 20:36 Space Invader wrote:
damn, was not expecting naniwa to 2-0 incontrol and 2-1 idra, props to him i guess


well you coudnt expect naniwa to beat idra, yes, but incontrol? come on lol..
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 20:19:41
March 17 2011 20:15 GMT
#786
On March 14 2011 07:37 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 06:43 Raiznhell wrote:
Regardless, Julyzerg has been crushing face and not even doing anything "right" by IdrAs standards like not having good creep spread and also doing fail banelings drops and so many things. It's obviously not stupidly broken. Having the majority of your army being corruptors is not a good army composition. Bad decision making is what lead to IdrA losing.

Not taking anything away from July, but as far as SC2 standards go he is basically the "Rain" of Zerg, it's just that it's more entertaining watching him cheese cause...it's freakin' July. So even though IdrA didn't play up to par perhaps, using July as a comparison of Zerg isn't great.


I get what you're trying to say but you should be shot for comparing July to Rain.

One huge difference : July plays that way because he tries to find solutions during a state of the metagame where zerg struggles, not because he knows his mechanics aren't up to par for a macro game.

edit : seriously guys, this is getting retarded. It's like any kind of build which aims to try to kill your opponent before he is maxed out is labelled "cheese".

If other GSL players fail to adapt to July's style, it's their fucking problem, and that doesn't mean July doesn't deserve his spot in the finals.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 20:20:00
March 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#787
-sry dbl post-
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
hidiliho
Profile Joined September 2004
Canada685 Posts
March 18 2011 01:12 GMT
#788
Great games. Idra BM was great at the end lol.

Looking forward to finals!
I have a dream, that some day I wouldn't see any imba comments in GSL threads.
mappiechampion
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden155 Posts
March 18 2011 15:59 GMT
#789
Why doesn't IdrA try another approach, I agree on the fact that Shakuras is bad for Z, it's was clearly shown by the last game they played. However, knowing that, and scouting the route nAni was taking, isn't there a better response? There must be.

I think IdrA was a bit too indecisive, he didn't manage to apply any pressure, he didn't manage to attack, and he lost alot alot of stuff by his third even though it's a really bad engagement.

No broodlords, no infestors, no drops, no banelings, no mutas. Nothing. Weren't there moments when could have changed out of Hydra/Roach? There must be! Why didn't he instantly exp away from the P when he was that he was going to wall himself off. Yeah.. I don't know

Zaffy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom128 Posts
March 19 2011 23:41 GMT
#790
where are the replays / vods?
waffles
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