On March 14 2011 05:01 TT1 wrote:
reading ur newb posts hurts my eyes when 50% of u have no idea wat ur talking about
reading ur newb posts hurts my eyes when 50% of u have no idea wat ur talking about
agreed
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							coolent
							
							
						 
						
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					On March 14 2011 05:01 TT1 wrote: reading ur newb posts hurts my eyes when 50% of u have no idea wat ur talking about agreed  | ||
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					On March 14 2011 05:00 Staboteur wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 04:52 cyprin wrote: On March 14 2011 04:51 ftd.rain wrote: On March 14 2011 04:50 MBH wrote: Has Idra ever blamed himself for a loss and written "gg" hehe... He really played much better than Naniwa, maybe he could try a different approach, but playing zerg is really unrewarding in these type of maps, especially against protoss. 60 food ahead at one point, protoss just sits on one base and a-moves. i don't know why people say hydras are good vs protoss, they lose to stalker balls really bad. Hydras -do- beat the crap out of stalkers, but not three groups of 15 hydras at a time against one group of 35 stalkers. All you achieve then is hurting their shields and not actually doing any lasting damage. Zerg always seems to need a number above that critical mass to deal with the army presented to them, or lose hard without having actually done much damage. As evidence to support this, look at banelings VS marines, or mutalisks zerglings or hydras vs anything. If you've got three less banelings, it changes from you eradicating his entire squad of marines to you killing six marines and getting rolled by the remainder. This is a myth honestly. Stalkers vs Hydras is very even in terms of cost and supply. People for some reason think that Hydras roflown gateway units when they honestly don't. They need to be on creep to face zealots as well. What owns gateway units, is Hydra DPS, protected by ling/roach tanking.  | ||
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					On March 14 2011 05:03 TooN wrote: idra didn't outplay nani. I would say he outplayed him macro wise, but he always does some really weird decisions costing him the game.  | ||
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					On March 14 2011 04:59 TheBrofessor wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 04:58 sermokala wrote: On March 14 2011 04:51 imareaver3 wrote: On March 14 2011 04:50 Killing wrote: Needed to transition into broods after killing those collo Broods? Against blink stalkers? What good would they do, besides soaking up gas? Nani would have just outmaneuvered them and sniped bases; BL's are too slow. and what would go wrong? idra the macro god has enough larva to support a mass ling stream while the broods support and drive naniwa back and back until hes contained. you could tell that naniwa was scared the whole match to go a macro game against idra thats why he confined himself in that 3 base pocket there. Idra smashed the colli play and then just kept getting played with. I think if idra wasn't such an emo prick he would have won seeing how naniwa was gona be dry in all his bases in a matter of minutes. Naniwa was working on storm at the end there, i dont really think broods and lings could have done much. yeah storms would have been the death nail but when naniwa stopped useing colissi and was pure stalker/immo would have bought idra the time to stablize and use his macro advantage.  | ||
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					On March 14 2011 04:54 SiguR wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 04:52 flodeskum wrote: On March 14 2011 04:49 blade55555 wrote: On March 14 2011 04:48 N3rV[Green] wrote: Why do zergs make soooo many useless corrupters is they see a few colossi? I'm getting worried for Idra..... Because if you don't then you get fucked up by colossi. You either make too much just so you have a chance, or make too few and you instant lose. wp'd by nani grats dignitas. It's really hard to hit that "correct" corrupter number. But sadly Idra went way to far there. That was probably around 20 hydras worth of useless corruptors. He cannot blindly predict how many colossi will be present when the engagement happens. If you go too light on the corrupters you will lose more often than when you go too heavy on the corrupters. I know, hence the "it's really hard" part. I know I can never get the number right in my zvp    | ||
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					On March 14 2011 05:02 charlieso wrote: ![]() in case you wonder He did say jokie, so that wasn't so bad. ![]()  | ||
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							TT1
							
							
						 
						
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					On March 14 2011 05:02 floor exercise wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 05:00 TT1 wrote: if idra positioned his units inside the 1olock main(in the early game when he loss the 1oclock nat) to intercept naniwa's units instead of letting him walk inside the base uncontested then he would have won(even if they would have never engaged) because naniwa would have been sitting on a shitty unit compo and idra would have had a sick eco to tech to broodlords after the big 200 vs 200 engagement while remaxing his ground army losing that 1oclock cost him the game and it was something he could have easily avoided with better scouting Agreed 100% He should have been watching the rocks on both sides once he saw the full wall and been ready to contest the 1 oclock rock ramp instead of letting Nani get position I question his level of practice / what kind of shape he is in these days. I also kinda wonder if it's only going to get worse now that he's leaving Korea and won't even have ladder plz dont make any excuses for him, he played pretty solid as usual but mistakes like that have nothing to do with gameplay, it was just an amateur scouting mistake  | ||
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							JonasTV
							
							
						 
						
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					On March 14 2011 05:00 TT1 wrote: if idra positioned his units inside the 1olock main(in the early game when he loss the 1oclock nat) to intercept naniwa's units instead of letting him walk inside the base uncontested then he would have won(even if they would have never engaged) because naniwa would have been sitting on a shitty unit compo and idra would have had a sick eco to tech to broodlords after the big 200 vs 200 engagement while remaxing his ground army losing that 1oclock cost him the game and it was something he could have easily avoided with better scouting I agree with this. I was thinking all the time that he should've positioned himself with a good arch in the 1oclock main when he was still ahead in food.  | ||
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					On March 14 2011 05:01 TT1 wrote: reading ur newb posts hurts my eyes when 50% of u have no idea wat ur talking about And you do? not like your the top player in NA, Me neither, But atleast im closer then you  | ||
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					On March 14 2011 05:07 APurpleCow wrote: If Idra had an overlord on that top passage and had time to get his army above the ramp before Naniwa got his up there, he'd have won. I think he saw the protoss army taking down the rocks. He sent an overlord when the rocks were at 50% health, prolly saw it going down and backed it up. Problem was that he decided to stay on his expo isntead of going up the ramp.  | ||
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					On March 14 2011 05:07 TT1 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 05:02 floor exercise wrote: On March 14 2011 05:00 TT1 wrote: if idra positioned his units inside the 1olock main(in the early game when he loss the 1oclock nat) to intercept naniwa's units instead of letting him walk inside the base uncontested then he would have won(even if they would have never engaged) because naniwa would have been sitting on a shitty unit compo and idra would have had a sick eco to tech to broodlords after the big 200 vs 200 engagement while remaxing his ground army losing that 1oclock cost him the game and it was something he could have easily avoided with better scouting Agreed 100% He should have been watching the rocks on both sides once he saw the full wall and been ready to contest the 1 oclock rock ramp instead of letting Nani get position I question his level of practice / what kind of shape he is in these days. I also kinda wonder if it's only going to get worse now that he's leaving Korea and won't even have ladder plz dont make any excuses for him, he played pretty solid as usual but mistakes like that have nothing to do with gameplay, it was just an amateur scouting mistake Are we supposed to just accept your opinion on it instead? You haven't exactly established yourself as some impartial, respected observer in the past. Indeed, given your past there's very little reason for any such respect  | ||
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					On March 14 2011 05:05 flodeskum wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 04:54 SiguR wrote: On March 14 2011 04:52 flodeskum wrote: On March 14 2011 04:49 blade55555 wrote: On March 14 2011 04:48 N3rV[Green] wrote: Why do zergs make soooo many useless corrupters is they see a few colossi? I'm getting worried for Idra..... Because if you don't then you get fucked up by colossi. You either make too much just so you have a chance, or make too few and you instant lose. wp'd by nani grats dignitas. It's really hard to hit that "correct" corrupter number. But sadly Idra went way to far there. That was probably around 20 hydras worth of useless corruptors. He cannot blindly predict how many colossi will be present when the engagement happens. If you go too light on the corrupters you will lose more often than when you go too heavy on the corrupters. I know, hence the "it's really hard" part. I know I can never get the number right in my zvp   Sorry, I was responding to the original quote from N3rV, I shouldnt have included the other quotes. I agree with what you were saying ![]()  | ||
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					On March 14 2011 05:08 asha wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2011 05:01 TT1 wrote: reading ur newb posts hurts my eyes when 50% of u have no idea wat ur talking about And you do? not like your the top player in NA, Me neither, But atleast im closer then you must be trollin :p  | ||
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					He also didn't take the gases at the two bottom bases he took from what I saw causing him to not be able to crank out enough Hydra or change his Corruptors into Broodlords. He also made WAY too many Corruptors for how many Collossi there were IMO. Those are just my criticisms as an amateur as to why he lost so.  | ||
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