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On March 03 2011 21:17 Salvarias wrote:so ace vs moonglade and squirtle vs moon... am I the only one who sees a pvp in the finals ? 
Yep...Moon will destroy Squirtle...again.
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Oh wow, that's it for the day. /sadface
(other than the TLO vs Hasu match)
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On March 03 2011 21:16 Piledriver wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 21:06 BrahCJ wrote:On March 03 2011 21:02 MBH wrote:
Idra will have a hard time explaining why Zerg is so underpowered next time on SotG hehe...Incontrol was giving him a hard time on the last episode anyway.
Now we have a sh***ton of Zergs and no Terrans advancing, yet Idra goes out in the playoffs hehe... I have no idea what you just said. One of 4 players are Zerg. IdrAs point is that ZvP is incredibly tough. IdrA lost to a protoss. I'm clearly missing your point. 1 zerg in top 4 doesn't mean that "lol, zerg is fine" Dude, What on fucking earth are you talking about? The top 6 has 4 zergs : IdrA,Morrow, Moon and Moonglade, and basic math would indicate that in the worst case scenario atleast 2 zergs would be in top 4. Better take off your imba glasses and wake up to see the facts. TL has the most vocal zerg fanatics who have no better job than spread the filth about "zerg imbalance" at the drop of a hat, and infest every single LR thread that's created. Stop. Now. If you feel the need to whine, create your own thread and keep posting there.
This is the most retarded logic ever. There were only 12 players invited, so the skill difference between the players has much more relevance than any racial imbalance. The entire final 6 could be zerg and it wouldn't mean anything about balance, since the sample pool is so small.
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By the way, I am not sure if people know but TLO will play HasuObs to open the 2011 ESL Pro Series summer season. (Main national German league in esports.)
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On March 03 2011 21:21 Corrupted wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 21:17 Salvarias wrote:so ace vs moonglade and squirtle vs moon... am I the only one who sees a pvp in the finals ? Yep...Moon will destroy Squirtle...again.
Yep.
Ace > Moonglade
Moon > Squirtle
Ace > Moon
Would be really surprised if anything else happened.
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Lol @ all the people blowing the Idra situation out of proportion. You don't know what was said and you have no clue about the current relationship between Idra/Morrow. It came off as playful banter to me, ill-timed maybe, but by no means a reason to attack Idra so much.
Relax people.
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On March 03 2011 21:14 Skytalker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 21:13 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:06 BertiliO wrote:On March 03 2011 21:01 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:00 BertiliO wrote:
Really disrespectful of Idra to interrupt an interview like that. He should learn to show some kind of sportsmanship. Why should he? Are you trolling? I actually enjoy rivalry but keep it at a mature and reasonable level. I think it's safe to assume most would agree that what idra did was very childish and uncalled for. EDIT: Maybe I shouldn't jump to conclusions until I know what actually happened, but it felt like whatever idra said morrow seemed to be offended. You don't even know what he said and wtf is with everyone expecting and forcing politeness onto players. What's wrong with expecting politeness from everyone, and if there are no, to lash out at it?
IdrA calls it as it is (or he sees it) and doesn't care about being politically correct, and that's his own choice. People seem to be trying to force being politically correct onto players, which I think is very boring and just no necessary.
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On March 03 2011 21:16 Piledriver wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 21:06 BrahCJ wrote:On March 03 2011 21:02 MBH wrote:
Idra will have a hard time explaining why Zerg is so underpowered next time on SotG hehe...Incontrol was giving him a hard time on the last episode anyway.
Now we have a sh***ton of Zergs and no Terrans advancing, yet Idra goes out in the playoffs hehe... I have no idea what you just said. One of 4 players are Zerg. IdrAs point is that ZvP is incredibly tough. IdrA lost to a protoss. I'm clearly missing your point. 1 zerg in top 4 doesn't mean that "lol, zerg is fine" Dude, What on fucking earth are you talking about? The top 6 has 4 zergs : IdrA,Morrow, Moon and Moonglade, and basic math would indicate that in the worst case scenario atleast 2 zergs would be in top 4. Better take off your imba glasses and wake up to see the facts. TL has the most vocal zerg fanatics who have no better job than spread the filth about "zerg imbalance" at the drop of a hat, and infest every single LR thread that's created. Stop. Now. If you feel the need to whine, create your own thread and keep posting there.
Between the 4 zerg coming to this event, 3 were trained in Korea and 1 was a known hard worker nerdballer previous IEM winner.
The Terran line up (with no korean trainee) was weak and Protoss line up with 2 korean, a barbarian from the north (Socke) and THE MAN (you know who I'm talking about) was decent.
Does this explanation give you a better understand on why zerg are doing good despite all the zerg whine ? Zerg is still the weakest race in my opinion.
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On March 03 2011 21:21 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 21:20 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:19 syllogism wrote:On March 03 2011 21:18 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:13 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:06 BertiliO wrote:On March 03 2011 21:01 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:00 BertiliO wrote:
Really disrespectful of Idra to interrupt an interview like that. He should learn to show some kind of sportsmanship. Why should he? Are you trolling? I actually enjoy rivalry but keep it at a mature and reasonable level. I think it's safe to assume most would agree that what idra did was very childish and uncalled for. EDIT: Maybe I shouldn't jump to conclusions until I know what actually happened, but it felt like whatever idra said morrow seemed to be offended. You don't even know what he said and wtf is with everyone expecting and forcing politeness onto players. Being polite should be expected from players and not "a bonus". Do you see the Koreans bash each other in such a cheap way as some westerners do? No you dont. Go and look this up in the Liquipedia: Definition of GOSU ... " Gosu in Korean literally translates to "high hand" and it refers to a player with superior manner and skill." I have boldened the important detail ... lets not turn Starcraft 2 into another WWF ... Yes, there is a lot of trash talking in GSL and it's good for the show Not from the players ... or else you are watching a different GSL from me. You haven't been reading some of the interviews or pregame comments then. There have been a lot of "I don't think he is very good...", "I will crush him easily" type of remarks.
They dont do it on camera and saying "I don't think he is very good" in a non-televised interview isnt trash talking. You "claim" in your post that it is good for the show .... but it cant be good for the show if it isnt on the show.
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On March 03 2011 21:24 Rabiator wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 21:21 syllogism wrote:On March 03 2011 21:20 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:19 syllogism wrote:On March 03 2011 21:18 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:13 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:06 BertiliO wrote:On March 03 2011 21:01 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:00 BertiliO wrote:
Really disrespectful of Idra to interrupt an interview like that. He should learn to show some kind of sportsmanship. Why should he? Are you trolling? I actually enjoy rivalry but keep it at a mature and reasonable level. I think it's safe to assume most would agree that what idra did was very childish and uncalled for. EDIT: Maybe I shouldn't jump to conclusions until I know what actually happened, but it felt like whatever idra said morrow seemed to be offended. You don't even know what he said and wtf is with everyone expecting and forcing politeness onto players. Being polite should be expected from players and not "a bonus". Do you see the Koreans bash each other in such a cheap way as some westerners do? No you dont. Go and look this up in the Liquipedia: Definition of GOSU ... " Gosu in Korean literally translates to "high hand" and it refers to a player with superior manner and skill." I have boldened the important detail ... lets not turn Starcraft 2 into another WWF ... Yes, there is a lot of trash talking in GSL and it's good for the show Not from the players ... or else you are watching a different GSL from me. You haven't been reading some of the interviews or pregame comments then. There have been a lot of "I don't think he is very good...", "I will crush him easily" type of remarks. They dont do it on camera and saying "I don't think he is very good" in a non-televised interview isnt trash talking. You "claim" in your post that it is good for the show .... but it cant be good for the show if it isnt on the show.
They do. It is shown on the stream. Not just written interview
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On March 03 2011 21:24 Rabiator wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 21:21 syllogism wrote:On March 03 2011 21:20 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:19 syllogism wrote:On March 03 2011 21:18 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:13 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:06 BertiliO wrote:On March 03 2011 21:01 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:00 BertiliO wrote:
Really disrespectful of Idra to interrupt an interview like that. He should learn to show some kind of sportsmanship. Why should he? Are you trolling? I actually enjoy rivalry but keep it at a mature and reasonable level. I think it's safe to assume most would agree that what idra did was very childish and uncalled for. EDIT: Maybe I shouldn't jump to conclusions until I know what actually happened, but it felt like whatever idra said morrow seemed to be offended. You don't even know what he said and wtf is with everyone expecting and forcing politeness onto players. Being polite should be expected from players and not "a bonus". Do you see the Koreans bash each other in such a cheap way as some westerners do? No you dont. Go and look this up in the Liquipedia: Definition of GOSU ... " Gosu in Korean literally translates to "high hand" and it refers to a player with superior manner and skill." I have boldened the important detail ... lets not turn Starcraft 2 into another WWF ... Yes, there is a lot of trash talking in GSL and it's good for the show Not from the players ... or else you are watching a different GSL from me. You haven't been reading some of the interviews or pregame comments then. There have been a lot of "I don't think he is very good...", "I will crush him easily" type of remarks. They dont do it on camera and saying "I don't think he is very good" in a non-televised interview isnt trash talking. You "claim" in your post that it is good for the show .... but it cant be good for the show if it isnt on the show.
Many of these interviews were on camera. The most obvious example was Polt saying Jinro isn't very good and has just been lucky.
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On March 03 2011 21:25 dtz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 21:24 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:21 syllogism wrote:On March 03 2011 21:20 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:19 syllogism wrote:On March 03 2011 21:18 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:13 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:06 BertiliO wrote:On March 03 2011 21:01 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:00 BertiliO wrote:
Really disrespectful of Idra to interrupt an interview like that. He should learn to show some kind of sportsmanship. Why should he? Are you trolling? I actually enjoy rivalry but keep it at a mature and reasonable level. I think it's safe to assume most would agree that what idra did was very childish and uncalled for. EDIT: Maybe I shouldn't jump to conclusions until I know what actually happened, but it felt like whatever idra said morrow seemed to be offended. You don't even know what he said and wtf is with everyone expecting and forcing politeness onto players. Being polite should be expected from players and not "a bonus". Do you see the Koreans bash each other in such a cheap way as some westerners do? No you dont. Go and look this up in the Liquipedia: Definition of GOSU ... " Gosu in Korean literally translates to "high hand" and it refers to a player with superior manner and skill." I have boldened the important detail ... lets not turn Starcraft 2 into another WWF ... Yes, there is a lot of trash talking in GSL and it's good for the show Not from the players ... or else you are watching a different GSL from me. You haven't been reading some of the interviews or pregame comments then. There have been a lot of "I don't think he is very good...", "I will crush him easily" type of remarks. They dont do it on camera and saying "I don't think he is very good" in a non-televised interview isnt trash talking. You "claim" in your post that it is good for the show .... but it cant be good for the show if it isnt on the show. They do. It is shown on the stream. Not just written interview
Must be the Korean Stream then or I am sleeping through all of them.
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On March 03 2011 21:27 Rabiator wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 21:25 dtz wrote:On March 03 2011 21:24 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:21 syllogism wrote:On March 03 2011 21:20 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:19 syllogism wrote:On March 03 2011 21:18 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:13 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:06 BertiliO wrote:On March 03 2011 21:01 dre2k wrote:
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Why should he? Are you trolling? I actually enjoy rivalry but keep it at a mature and reasonable level. I think it's safe to assume most would agree that what idra did was very childish and uncalled for. EDIT: Maybe I shouldn't jump to conclusions until I know what actually happened, but it felt like whatever idra said morrow seemed to be offended. You don't even know what he said and wtf is with everyone expecting and forcing politeness onto players. Being polite should be expected from players and not "a bonus". Do you see the Koreans bash each other in such a cheap way as some westerners do? No you dont. Go and look this up in the Liquipedia: Definition of GOSU ... " Gosu in Korean literally translates to "high hand" and it refers to a player with superior manner and skill." I have boldened the important detail ... lets not turn Starcraft 2 into another WWF ... Yes, there is a lot of trash talking in GSL and it's good for the show Not from the players ... or else you are watching a different GSL from me. You haven't been reading some of the interviews or pregame comments then. There have been a lot of "I don't think he is very good...", "I will crush him easily" type of remarks. They dont do it on camera and saying "I don't think he is very good" in a non-televised interview isnt trash talking. You "claim" in your post that it is good for the show .... but it cant be good for the show if it isnt on the show. They do. It is shown on the stream. Not just written interview Must be the Korean Stream then or I am sleeping through all of them.
No. English stream. With english translation.
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On March 03 2011 21:23 dre2k wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 21:14 Skytalker wrote:On March 03 2011 21:13 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:06 BertiliO wrote:On March 03 2011 21:01 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:00 BertiliO wrote:
Really disrespectful of Idra to interrupt an interview like that. He should learn to show some kind of sportsmanship. Why should he? Are you trolling? I actually enjoy rivalry but keep it at a mature and reasonable level. I think it's safe to assume most would agree that what idra did was very childish and uncalled for. EDIT: Maybe I shouldn't jump to conclusions until I know what actually happened, but it felt like whatever idra said morrow seemed to be offended. You don't even know what he said and wtf is with everyone expecting and forcing politeness onto players. What's wrong with expecting politeness from everyone, and if there are no, to lash out at it? IdrA calls it as it is (or he sees it) and doesn't care about being politically correct, and that's his own choice. People seem to be trying to force being politically correct onto players, which I think is very boring and just no necessary.
Ofc it's his own choice, but he and his fans need to understand that's why he has a lot of haters. In my opinion rightfully so. He is a rolemodel and I do not want to have a new generation of players coming up thinking that manners doesnt matter.
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On March 03 2011 21:27 Rabiator wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 21:25 dtz wrote:On March 03 2011 21:24 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:21 syllogism wrote:On March 03 2011 21:20 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:19 syllogism wrote:On March 03 2011 21:18 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:13 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:06 BertiliO wrote:On March 03 2011 21:01 dre2k wrote:
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Why should he? Are you trolling? I actually enjoy rivalry but keep it at a mature and reasonable level. I think it's safe to assume most would agree that what idra did was very childish and uncalled for. EDIT: Maybe I shouldn't jump to conclusions until I know what actually happened, but it felt like whatever idra said morrow seemed to be offended. You don't even know what he said and wtf is with everyone expecting and forcing politeness onto players. Being polite should be expected from players and not "a bonus". Do you see the Koreans bash each other in such a cheap way as some westerners do? No you dont. Go and look this up in the Liquipedia: Definition of GOSU ... " Gosu in Korean literally translates to "high hand" and it refers to a player with superior manner and skill." I have boldened the important detail ... lets not turn Starcraft 2 into another WWF ... Yes, there is a lot of trash talking in GSL and it's good for the show Not from the players ... or else you are watching a different GSL from me. You haven't been reading some of the interviews or pregame comments then. There have been a lot of "I don't think he is very good...", "I will crush him easily" type of remarks. They dont do it on camera and saying "I don't think he is very good" in a non-televised interview isnt trash talking. You "claim" in your post that it is good for the show .... but it cant be good for the show if it isnt on the show. They do. It is shown on the stream. Not just written interview Must be the Korean Stream then or I am sleeping through all of them.
yep dont write if u dont know what ure doing bro
so whats up any games still bro
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On March 03 2011 21:27 Rabiator wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 21:25 dtz wrote:On March 03 2011 21:24 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:21 syllogism wrote:On March 03 2011 21:20 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:19 syllogism wrote:On March 03 2011 21:18 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:13 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:06 BertiliO wrote:On March 03 2011 21:01 dre2k wrote:
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Why should he? Are you trolling? I actually enjoy rivalry but keep it at a mature and reasonable level. I think it's safe to assume most would agree that what idra did was very childish and uncalled for. EDIT: Maybe I shouldn't jump to conclusions until I know what actually happened, but it felt like whatever idra said morrow seemed to be offended. You don't even know what he said and wtf is with everyone expecting and forcing politeness onto players. Being polite should be expected from players and not "a bonus". Do you see the Koreans bash each other in such a cheap way as some westerners do? No you dont. Go and look this up in the Liquipedia: Definition of GOSU ... " Gosu in Korean literally translates to "high hand" and it refers to a player with superior manner and skill." I have boldened the important detail ... lets not turn Starcraft 2 into another WWF ... Yes, there is a lot of trash talking in GSL and it's good for the show Not from the players ... or else you are watching a different GSL from me. You haven't been reading some of the interviews or pregame comments then. There have been a lot of "I don't think he is very good...", "I will crush him easily" type of remarks. They dont do it on camera and saying "I don't think he is very good" in a non-televised interview isnt trash talking. You "claim" in your post that it is good for the show .... but it cant be good for the show if it isnt on the show. They do. It is shown on the stream. Not just written interview Must be the Korean Stream then or I am sleeping through all of them.
It was on the english stream,, you need to pay attention or keep your mouth shut.. =)
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On March 03 2011 21:18 Rabiator wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 21:13 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:06 BertiliO wrote:On March 03 2011 21:01 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:00 BertiliO wrote:
Really disrespectful of Idra to interrupt an interview like that. He should learn to show some kind of sportsmanship. Why should he? Are you trolling? I actually enjoy rivalry but keep it at a mature and reasonable level. I think it's safe to assume most would agree that what idra did was very childish and uncalled for. EDIT: Maybe I shouldn't jump to conclusions until I know what actually happened, but it felt like whatever idra said morrow seemed to be offended. You don't even know what he said and wtf is with everyone expecting and forcing politeness onto players. Being polite should be expected from players and not "a bonus". Do you see the Koreans bash each other in such a cheap way as some westerners do? No you dont. Go and look this up in the Liquipedia: Definition of GOSU ... " Gosu in Korean literally translates to "high hand" and it refers to a player with superior manner and skill." I have boldened the important detail ... lets not turn Starcraft 2 into another WWF ...
No it shouldn't, players can decide for themselves if they want to be polite or not in this setting. Who cares what Koreans do? their whole culture is instilled with manner, politeness and other social pressure. And why should I look up the term GOSU? whats wrong with you people
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On March 03 2011 21:24 Rabiator wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 21:21 syllogism wrote:On March 03 2011 21:20 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:19 syllogism wrote:On March 03 2011 21:18 Rabiator wrote:On March 03 2011 21:13 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:06 BertiliO wrote:On March 03 2011 21:01 dre2k wrote:On March 03 2011 21:00 BertiliO wrote:
Really disrespectful of Idra to interrupt an interview like that. He should learn to show some kind of sportsmanship. Why should he? Are you trolling? I actually enjoy rivalry but keep it at a mature and reasonable level. I think it's safe to assume most would agree that what idra did was very childish and uncalled for. EDIT: Maybe I shouldn't jump to conclusions until I know what actually happened, but it felt like whatever idra said morrow seemed to be offended. You don't even know what he said and wtf is with everyone expecting and forcing politeness onto players. Being polite should be expected from players and not "a bonus". Do you see the Koreans bash each other in such a cheap way as some westerners do? No you dont. Go and look this up in the Liquipedia: Definition of GOSU ... " Gosu in Korean literally translates to "high hand" and it refers to a player with superior manner and skill." I have boldened the important detail ... lets not turn Starcraft 2 into another WWF ... Yes, there is a lot of trash talking in GSL and it's good for the show Not from the players ... or else you are watching a different GSL from me. You haven't been reading some of the interviews or pregame comments then. There have been a lot of "I don't think he is very good...", "I will crush him easily" type of remarks. They dont do it on camera and saying "I don't think he is very good" in a non-televised interview isnt trash talking. You "claim" in your post that it is good for the show .... but it cant be good for the show if it isnt on the show.
actually they say "i dont think he is very good" and shit like that all the time. there have been many excerpts from when the groups were picked by the players that have been put in the show as pregame to hype it up. you have no idea what you are talking about
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