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With terran on the other hand the argument is legit. In every GSL more than 1/3 of qualifiers have been terran. In every round of every GSL more than 1/3 of players have been terran. They have made every final. The total GSL semifinalists over the first 4 seasons have been 15 terran, 3 zerg, 2 protoss. Thats ridiculous.
Its because there are more terran users than zerg or protoss users .
Terran is the biggest pool of players
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On January 19 2011 20:52 Geo.Rion wrote:werent watching the same stream i guess
many weren't watching a stream at all D:
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On January 19 2011 20:50 McDonalds wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2011 20:45 billyX333 wrote:On January 19 2011 20:43 McDonalds wrote:On January 19 2011 20:42 billyX333 wrote:On January 19 2011 20:39 qetou wrote:On January 19 2011 20:37 tdt wrote:On January 19 2011 20:32 ondik wrote:NaDa played SO bad that it really made me rage  just throwing the games away without any motivation to advance to semis (or so it seemed). Any decent player (not saying he's not decent but just didn't care or i don't know) would have won in his position in game 1 and most definitely in game 3. I really don't think MKP's style has any potential in future when players learn to counter it properly as NaDa was able to get in commanding lead in games 1 and 3 fairly easily and I believe Jinro has good chance to advance to finals. nada is rich hard to get motivated. Does he even live in ogs house 24/7? I doubt it. I dont think he is that rich that he doesnt need 47k or whatever is the prize for 1st place. didnt nada just finish up a 600k contract from pantech/wemade? If these guys are smart then they're managing their money well because they know they can't do this for very long. i think with the addition of other prize money and endorsements, nada is easily in the million dollar range now and you only need like what? ~15k yearly to survive in korea?i think he'll be fine Oh wow. Yeah, maybe if you have no expenses other than food or you live in a small town and grow some of it yourself. i shouldve said 20k seeing as how the average salary is around 25k. clearly there are people out there surviving on less
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How can you expect Nada to all of a sudden place a few seige tanks in his main? He already had a turret and sensor tower -- which is already quite a defensive move by nada
he moved his army as soon as he could when the sensor tower showed the drop
MKP just had awesome micro -- took out a few important buildings and wisely left his main
give credit where credit is due.. instead of bashing the other player for not having full vision of the whole map and responding in a perfect manner
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On January 19 2011 20:51 thoradycus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2011 20:50 sqrt wrote:On January 19 2011 20:43 McDonalds wrote:On January 19 2011 20:42 billyX333 wrote:On January 19 2011 20:39 qetou wrote:On January 19 2011 20:37 tdt wrote:On January 19 2011 20:32 ondik wrote:NaDa played SO bad that it really made me rage  just throwing the games away without any motivation to advance to semis (or so it seemed). Any decent player (not saying he's not decent but just didn't care or i don't know) would have won in his position in game 1 and most definitely in game 3. I really don't think MKP's style has any potential in future when players learn to counter it properly as NaDa was able to get in commanding lead in games 1 and 3 fairly easily and I believe Jinro has good chance to advance to finals. nada is rich hard to get motivated. Does he even live in ogs house 24/7? I doubt it. I dont think he is that rich that he doesnt need 47k or whatever is the prize for 1st place. didnt nada just finish up a 600k contract from pantech/wemade? If these guys are smart then they're managing their money well because they know they can't do this for very long. Who? WeMadeFox or NaDa? Because WeMadeFox are paying that sweet 600k to Moon atm. EDIT: And if NaDa isn't training wth is he doing? There are people saying that he is doing his studies.
Sounds smart, at least he knows he's getting old so he's redirecting to somewhere else.
Anyway, after today's games I can't wait to see how SC2 improves. Such an awesome day...
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On January 19 2011 20:40 Dionyseus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2011 20:37 billyX333 wrote:On January 19 2011 20:35 Roggay wrote:On January 19 2011 20:32 ondik wrote:NaDa played SO bad that it really made me rage  just throwing the games away without any motivation to advance to semis (or so it seemed). Any decent player (not saying he's not decent but just didn't care or i don't know) would have won in his position in game 1 and most definitely in game 3. I really don't think MKP's style has any potential in future when players learn to counter it properly as NaDa was able to get in commanding lead in games 1 and 3 fairly easily and I believe Jinro has good chance to advance to finals. NaDa admitted that he barely trains, if think he just didnt have enough experience of those situations and didnt played them well. But yea I don't think MKP's style is really good, definitly have some huge weaknesses. im pretty sure with MKP's style, he is now the #1 base trader in tvt in the world ez im positive he faces a vastly superior tank/marine army every single game and just side steps it and forces a base trade as the only remaining tactic this shit is seriously ridiculous and needs to stop. eventually people are going to catch on to this How do you catch on to it? Tanks are slow, it'd take them forever to get back to defend the main, and if you unsiege Foxer can stim and kill your tanks.
I wonder if you could look for a couple of quicker vikings to try snipe medivacs before they can drop, it might mean sacrificing a bit of early unit production for the extra teching but if you are able to stop the drops before they happen then you should be able to slow push a lot more comfortably?
On January 19 2011 20:42 bahl sofs tiil wrote: The question I really want answered that Artosis didn't ask is "what kind of challenges does MarineKing face in his regular life due to his giant, giant balls?"
Gave me a good chuckle xD
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Is there a chance that the Jinro vs Idra match is not finished?
GomTV Support just posted: "Pre-match sound test was good. An official announcement will be made If some kind of action is to be taken resulting from tonight's event."
There could have been many other times players experienced the same thing Jinro did. Jinro, being honest, should not be held against him.
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On January 19 2011 20:54 sqrt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2011 20:51 thoradycus wrote:On January 19 2011 20:50 sqrt wrote:On January 19 2011 20:43 McDonalds wrote:On January 19 2011 20:42 billyX333 wrote:On January 19 2011 20:39 qetou wrote:On January 19 2011 20:37 tdt wrote:On January 19 2011 20:32 ondik wrote:NaDa played SO bad that it really made me rage  just throwing the games away without any motivation to advance to semis (or so it seemed). Any decent player (not saying he's not decent but just didn't care or i don't know) would have won in his position in game 1 and most definitely in game 3. I really don't think MKP's style has any potential in future when players learn to counter it properly as NaDa was able to get in commanding lead in games 1 and 3 fairly easily and I believe Jinro has good chance to advance to finals. nada is rich hard to get motivated. Does he even live in ogs house 24/7? I doubt it. I dont think he is that rich that he doesnt need 47k or whatever is the prize for 1st place. didnt nada just finish up a 600k contract from pantech/wemade? If these guys are smart then they're managing their money well because they know they can't do this for very long. Who? WeMadeFox or NaDa? Because WeMadeFox are paying that sweet 600k to Moon atm. EDIT: And if NaDa isn't training wth is he doing? There are people saying that he is doing his studies. Sounds smart, at least he knows he's getting old so he's redirecting to somewhere else. Anyway, after today's games I can't wait to see how SC2 improves. Such an awesome day... Agreed,i truly expect him to be really owning if he really plays SC2 full time tbh
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On January 19 2011 20:55 Blitzkrieg09 wrote: Is there a chance that the Jinro vs Idra match is not finished?
GomTV Support just posted: "Pre-match sound test was good. An official announcement will be made If some kind of action is to be taken resulting from tonight's event."
Ouch...maybe Jinro should have kept his mouth shut.
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On January 19 2011 20:46 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2011 20:40 Frankon wrote:On January 19 2011 20:32 Senx wrote: Yeah Jinro can't go into the MKP series thinking it'll be a standard macro game, prepare for base trades and have a mobile army to counter his. If jinro does use siege tanks, hes gotta use them extremely carefully or MKP will just straight up stomp him.
Its gonna be hard, his style is very hard to beat, You either have to play the same style and do it better or play a flawless siege tank/marine comp which is alot less forgiving than pure bio. Bolded for the truth. Siedge takes some time and then they are defenceless. Nada didnt make a mistake in game 3 by going without siedging. He was in no position for immoblive siedge push. He knew that if he had done it MK would just run by him or into him masacring his tanks. Dunno if you heard about the concept ''leapfrogging''. Yeah you can "leapfrogg" your way into the place where there are no MK units or buildings (maybe only suply depots). Leapfrogging is a slow push... no chance to beat MK army mobility. To counter this he would have to push on all the attack lanes at once (with viking patroling for medavacs). But this is also easly countrable since MK would just concentrade his army at breaking at one point and anhilate the economy.
So only way to beat MK is by SCV all-in early game... But that is still very hard to pull
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On January 19 2011 20:46 aztrorisk wrote: Jinro: I think I'm ready to face MKP again and redeem myself from last time. Yes, I think I'm ready, I defeated Idra 3-1. If I can handle a 6 pool from Idra, I can handle a marine push from MKP.
MKP: 3-0 Nada
Jinro: Has MKP ever lost a TVT? EVER?
Lol! XD
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On January 19 2011 20:58 sqrt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2011 20:55 Blitzkrieg09 wrote: Is there a chance that the Jinro vs Idra match is not finished?
GomTV Support just posted: "Pre-match sound test was good. An official announcement will be made If some kind of action is to be taken resulting from tonight's event." Ouch...maybe Jinro should have kept his mouth shut. No. No, Jinro did the right thing.
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On January 19 2011 20:38 Torrentsven wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2011 20:34 noD wrote:On January 19 2011 20:30 Vimsey wrote:On January 19 2011 20:28 noD wrote:On January 19 2011 20:27 branflakes14 wrote: Code A Ro4:
TTTT
Code S Ro4:
TTTZ
Fuck everything. like it wasnt tttz on season 1 and 2 .... Sorry I thought we were still with protoss is OP I didnt get the memo. When will people stop crying and just enjoy the games. Jinro and MVP are OP races are like chess pieces .... People need to know how to move them ... yea exactly, but would you rather want to use a peon or a queen?
Mastering the peons was like the biggest chess revelation in modern time.
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very happy for Jinro, I think ATM he is 1 level above Idra, ofcourse he has good foundation when they have oGs guys in same house. fingers crossed for you to win whole thing now!
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There should not be a rematch. It's naive to think no one has ever heard the commentators when a DT rush was on the way. I'd be surprised if Idra accepted the rematch too.
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On January 19 2011 20:48 thoradycus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2011 20:46 aztrorisk wrote: Jinro: I think I'm ready to face MKP again and redeem myself from last time. Yes, I think I'm ready, I defeated Idra 3-1. If I can handle a 6 pool from Idra, I can handle a marine push from MKP.
MKP: 3-0 Nada
Jinro: Has this guy ever lost a TVT? EVER? Jinro has lost TVTs to SlayersBoxer a couple of times
You're doing it wrong.
go back to it and read it as dialogue
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I don't think there's gonna be a rematch, Jinro was honest and Idra is quite prideful.
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So are the remaining players all Terran now?
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On January 19 2011 20:55 Blitzkrieg09 wrote: Is there a chance that the Jinro vs Idra match is not finished?
GomTV Support just posted: "Pre-match sound test was good. An official announcement will be made If some kind of action is to be taken resulting from tonight's event."
There could have been many other times players experienced the same thing Jinro did. Jinro, being honest, should not be held against him. Pretty much. If anything it should make them improve the experience for the players.
Thing is too, Korean commentators can be really goddamn loud and the sound testing probably doesn't take in account of the audience. If Jinro heard something what was he going to suspect, that IdrA made a fucking drone? No. He'd expect the 6 Pool that early in the game.
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On January 19 2011 21:14 KezseN wrote: So are the remaining players all Terran now?
3 Terran, 1 Zerg. (Nestea)
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