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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
January 21 2011 03:38 GMT
#4701
On January 21 2011 10:27 domovoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 02:00 haruk wrote:
On January 20 2011 13:56 out4blood wrote:
But in one hand you have Jinro with some amazing practice partners (Zenio, Cezanne, etc.) and Ret (who knows pretty well IdrA's style)... also you have MC to support and cheer for you.

IdrA in the other hand doesn't really have any class S terran to practice (as far as I know). Artosis could coach him, and Tasteless could make some pretty cool jokes to cheer him up... but nothing is compared to have an amazing practice partners group.

I wonder if Idra's BM is the reason he does not have good practice partners in Korea. He's good enough that he should be an asset to any Korean team, yet he's off on his own. Whereas you have this great partnership between TL and oGs. Maybe that could be lesson for prospective progamers for at least one reason to be pleasant instead of rude.


It's a lesson to anyone. You get further along in life if you're courteous.

Nah, the SC2 Korean pros are just oversensitive, and also there might be a twinge of racism involved (as in, a BMing Korean wouldn't have any trouble). For example, going back to poker, Phil Helmuth could certainly find any number of willing practice partners. As could IdrA if he played in the U.S.

In fact, IdrA was able to find a team when he was playing BW, and he was far worse in terms of BM back then. I chalk this up to BW's more mature/pragmatic gaming scene; the longer a league is around, the more likely teams will trend toward maximizing success rather than being buddy-buddy with everyone.

You're wrong to even insinuate racism without any proof.

Regardless, I've got the perfect counter example. When Rainbow beat Genius in the GSL2, he said that Tester (a.k.a. TSL_Trickster, sks) immediately offered to help him (Rainbow) when Genius won his match against Inca. For someone of his caliber, isn't it surprising that Genius is not on an established team? That's because he is BM.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
January 21 2011 03:44 GMT
#4702
I think a lot of people underestimate MarineKing. It's true that his strategy isn't exactly sound, and his micro is probably overrated. But he makes very good split second decisions, and that is the reason he wins games. He doesn't hesitate when he sees a chance to win.
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rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-21 03:54:06
January 21 2011 03:49 GMT
#4703
Glad someone has finally pulled up the ELO charts. Imo it's the most accurate measure of skill (I especially take into consideration peak ELO when talking about the greatest player of all time. Just take a look at the BW list: Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Oov). MKP has both the highest current ELO and the highest peak. Kid is on fire.

Don't know why there are so many MKP haters out there. Yes he has an unorthodox style. Yes he cheeses and yes he plays the game differently. Doesn't take away the fact that he's probably considered the best in sc2 atm.

EDIT: Mvp has the highest current ELO. MKP has the highest peak. My mistake.
The Notorious Winkles
bahl sofs tiil
Profile Joined December 2010
United States233 Posts
January 21 2011 03:55 GMT
#4704
I'd like to know what IdrA's reaction was after watching the Metalopolis game. Does he regret leaving so early after seeing one barracks and one gas instead of the full-on double barracks rush?
And isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean, all you get is one trick: rational thinking; but, when you're good and crazy, ooohoohoohoohoooo, the sky is the limit!
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
January 21 2011 04:01 GMT
#4705
what irritated me was Nada's bad positioning. he could've easily went back and killed MKP's army and there was 2 instances where he could buy time with his marines so his siege tanks can siege up. BUT NO! he decided to attack unsieged :/
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
Decko
Profile Joined May 2010
United States150 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-21 19:00:32
January 21 2011 19:00 GMT
#4706
On a lighter note, the gracket is bad ass, next he's going to get a tattoo.

Let's all sit back, and imagine Greg with the Cracken tattooed on his entire back. Yes that's right folks, the Gracken in his Gracket concealing a Cracken.


P.S. why so cereal?
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