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vdek
United States267 Posts
On January 20 2011 14:54 xxxxxxb wrote: Yes, watching the english cast is the only way to spectate gsl, right? Don't try to sound so clever, please. Considering you're on an English speaking forum, It's not unreasonable to assume everyone is watching the english cast. | ||
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Shorack
Belgium111 Posts
On January 20 2011 11:45 chaosdarkprince wrote: Totally agree, an "oooooh" can mean lots of things so no way Jinro could do anything about it with 100% certainty, he could've even guessed a rush before! Are there that many things it could mean that early in the game? He was playing versus zerg after all. You can cheese with 6-pool (or similar low pool) or a 12-drone rush (which i believe needed the really short rush distance of Steppes). The cost of completing the wall-in asap was low too. I'd guess that Jinro actually knew when he heard the commentators, but didn't want to have an unfair advantage and so went scouting for it instead so that he at least got the info fair and square from his in-game actions. Which was the most correct thing he could do imho. (imagine pausing and restarting, i doubt that would have done Idra any good) | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On January 20 2011 07:57 Nemireck wrote: Are you forgetting that MvP showed us the marine split first? Jungle Basin, against Zenio. Yeah. and he lost. on the other hand, MKP never lost to players like Zenio. | ||
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netherDrake
Singapore1831 Posts
On January 20 2011 23:29 bearhug wrote: Yeah. and he lost. on the other hand, MKP never lost to players like Zenio. Back then he wasn't as good as MKP too anyway. Now he's pretty much the best T out there (even MKP said this in an interview) | ||
JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On January 20 2011 21:44 vdek wrote: Considering you're on an English speaking forum, It's not unreasonable to assume everyone is watching the english cast. Not if the Gomtv site was down for the first ~20-30 min for a lot of people and they had to resort to getting the Korean stream link for their gom player... They could also just like the Korean version since it reminds them of the BW casts | ||
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xxxxxxb
155 Posts
On January 20 2011 21:44 vdek wrote: Considering you're on an English speaking forum, It's not unreasonable to assume everyone is watching the english cast. And the other guy could also consider the fact that the english stream was dead, the thread has 200+ pages and it's impossible to follow and an interminable list of etceteras instead of just saying "lol you didnt watch ze gamez". And, please, let's put an end to such a meaningless thing. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
I have a theory. IdrA doesn't want to win.. If IdrA played poker he would be phil helmuth and complain anytime anyone bluffs and in fact I have another theory that IdrA is actually phil helmuth's long lost child. Enough about Idra, great job jinro. After winning an mlg and getting to 2 top 4's in GSL, I have to say that jinro is a baller and one that foreigners should be proud of. Great job jinro and best of luck against MK. Hint: He likes to make a lot of one unit. | ||
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haruk
216 Posts
On January 20 2011 13:56 out4blood wrote: I wonder if Idra's BM is the reason he does not have good practice partners in Korea. He's good enough that he should be an asset to any Korean team, yet he's off on his own. Whereas you have this great partnership between TL and oGs. Maybe that could be lesson for prospective progamers for at least one reason to be pleasant instead of rude. It's a lesson to anyone. You get further along in life if you're courteous. | ||
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beat farm
United States478 Posts
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Resolve
Singapore679 Posts
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On January 21 2011 02:12 beat farm wrote: Jinro can take MKP. its going to be close as hell. Jinro blundered against him in the ro16. Him and top are the only people left in gsl in the oGs house. Top is in code A and his next game really does not matter since he is top 2 and gets to pick his opponent for up and down. Jinro will have the entire oGs house working for him to get ready. Nazgul also works his but off more than anyone else. jinro and MKP are of equal skill but i believe jinro will be much better prepared. If you have a look at the ELO score, MKP has a much stronger TvT than any other player. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/detailed-elo | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On January 21 2011 02:34 bearhug wrote: If you have a look at the ELO score, MKP has a much stronger TvT than any other player. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/detailed-elo There's a whole lot of blue at the very top of that list...  NesTea fighting! | ||
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andrea20
Canada441 Posts
Cmon Boxer, practice that matchup more! | ||
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rezyn8
Australia216 Posts
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domovoi
United States1478 Posts
On January 21 2011 02:00 haruk wrote: It's a lesson to anyone. You get further along in life if you're courteous. Nah, the SC2 Korean pros are just oversensitive, and also there might be a twinge of racism involved (as in, a BMing Korean wouldn't have any trouble). For example, going back to poker, Phil Helmuth could certainly find any number of willing practice partners. As could IdrA if he played in the U.S. In fact, IdrA was able to find a team when he was playing BW, and he was far worse in terms of BM back then. I chalk this up to BW's more mature/pragmatic gaming scene; the longer a league is around, the more likely teams will trend toward maximizing success rather than being buddy-buddy with everyone. | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On January 21 2011 10:27 domovoi wrote: Nah, the SC2 Korean pros are just oversensitive, and also there might be a twinge of racism involved (as in, a BMing Korean wouldn't have any trouble). For example, going back to poker, Phil Helmuth could certainly find any number of willing practice partners. As could IdrA if he played in the U.S. In fact, IdrA was able to find a team when he was playing BW, and he was far worse in terms of BM back then. I chalk this up to BW's more mature/pragmatic gaming scene; the longer a league is around, the more likely teams will trend toward maximizing success rather than being buddy-buddy with everyone. True, but do you think he would act like this around his CJ teammates or top BW progamers? I think it's because he's one of the top SC2 players, he feels he can BM other players, while in BW he was just another B-teamer. | ||
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sqrt
1210 Posts
On January 21 2011 10:43 zerious wrote: True, but do you think he would act like this around his CJ teammates or top BW progamers? I think it's because he's one of the top SC2 players, he feels he can BM other players, while in BW he was just another B-teamer. Yes, we do, and yes, he did. | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On January 21 2011 04:35 andrea20 wrote: Boxer has the third-best TvT... but his TvZ is 1948 =( Cmon Boxer, practice that matchup more! Yeah. Elo usually tells a lot about the players and is quite accurate. Notice that MC has the 2nd highest peak vT. | ||
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GP
United States1056 Posts
On January 21 2011 10:43 zerious wrote: True, but do you think he would act like this around his CJ teammates or top BW progamers? I think it's because he's one of the top SC2 players, he feels he can BM other players, while in BW he was just another B-teamer. I wish people would stop claiming racism. if you watch Idra on his stream, at times he acts like he's twelve. If someone calls me a noob or uses expletives because I won, I'm not going to ever want to ever practice with that person. It's not about being "oversensitive" or "racist" it's about being human. Idra alienates other gamers by calling them retards and then claims "oh they're being sensitive." Yes, Idra's very courteous and polite in interviews, but we all know the personality he puts on ladder. It doesn't matter in the end because Idra has said that he prefers to practice on the ladder. I wish people would stop saying that idra "rages" or "is bm" like they've had some sort of genius revelation and that they're the first person to point it out. We get it, Idra's bm, it'll never change, stop dogging him because he's said he doesn't care. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Nada's siege tank control in set 1 and 3 frustrated me to no end. Way to go, Nada. That was pretty Hyuk style play you got there. | ||
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