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Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
November 26 2010 12:16 GMT
#1301
Thor drop, u heard it here 1st!
"MC" -> Master of Ceremonies xD
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
November 26 2010 12:16 GMT
#1302
On November 26 2010 21:15 Reedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 21:14 Black Gun wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:13 MDew wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:12 Black Gun wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:11 ThorIsHere wrote:
Blizzard please fix terran all-ins plox thx



lol wtf is this qqing? we terrans have to scout our natural for proxies in every single game on jungle basin, why shouldnt protoss have to do the same?



Genius did scout it, and still lost.



he scouted too late and didnt react as good as he could have...


rofl what do you want him to do?


I would want him to get a handful of HT, they own marines, even in smaller numbers. Maybe a carrier, they are not that much used.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
November 26 2010 12:16 GMT
#1303
On November 26 2010 21:15 Reedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 21:14 Black Gun wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:13 MDew wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:12 Black Gun wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:11 ThorIsHere wrote:
Blizzard please fix terran all-ins plox thx



lol wtf is this qqing? we terrans have to scout our natural for proxies in every single game on jungle basin, why shouldnt protoss have to do the same?



Genius did scout it, and still lost.



he scouted too late and didnt react as good as he could have...


rofl what do you want him to do?

He need a forge immediately after scouting that. But I think Genius underestimate the strong of this cheese.
Terran
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13408 Posts
November 26 2010 12:16 GMT
#1304
On November 26 2010 21:15 Reedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 21:14 Black Gun wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:13 MDew wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:12 Black Gun wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:11 ThorIsHere wrote:
Blizzard please fix terran all-ins plox thx



lol wtf is this qqing? we terrans have to scout our natural for proxies in every single game on jungle basin, why shouldnt protoss have to do the same?



Genius did scout it, and still lost.



he scouted too late and didnt react as good as he could have...


rofl what do you want him to do?

they want him to have ranged zealots. spring loaded psi blades ftw yo.

but on a serious note there isnt much he could have done other than pull all probes but then the T economy would have won
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Crashburn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States476 Posts
November 26 2010 12:16 GMT
#1305
On November 26 2010 21:16 crappen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 21:15 Reedy wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:14 Black Gun wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:13 MDew wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:12 Black Gun wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:11 ThorIsHere wrote:
Blizzard please fix terran all-ins plox thx



lol wtf is this qqing? we terrans have to scout our natural for proxies in every single game on jungle basin, why shouldnt protoss have to do the same?



Genius did scout it, and still lost.



he scouted too late and didnt react as good as he could have...


rofl what do you want him to do?


I would want him to get a handful of HT, they own marines, even in smaller numbers. Maybe a carrier, they are not that much used.


LOLOLOLOL
Yrq
Profile Joined August 2010
Iceland88 Posts
November 26 2010 12:17 GMT
#1306
blizzard, add shield battery into the game again, helps against shit like this
njnick
Profile Joined August 2010
United States176 Posts
November 26 2010 12:17 GMT
#1307
On November 26 2010 21:15 Reedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 21:14 Black Gun wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:13 MDew wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:12 Black Gun wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:11 ThorIsHere wrote:
Blizzard please fix terran all-ins plox thx



lol wtf is this qqing? we terrans have to scout our natural for proxies in every single game on jungle basin, why shouldnt protoss have to do the same?



Genius did scout it, and still lost.



he scouted too late and didnt react as good as he could have...


rofl what do you want him to do?

pull probs sooner and kill the bunker
ahwala
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany418 Posts
November 26 2010 12:17 GMT
#1308
why does it say "1set" and "0 - 0" in the overlay?
Reedy
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom185 Posts
November 26 2010 12:17 GMT
#1309
On November 26 2010 21:16 ironwarrior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 21:15 Reedy wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:14 Black Gun wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:13 MDew wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:12 Black Gun wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:11 ThorIsHere wrote:
Blizzard please fix terran all-ins plox thx



lol wtf is this qqing? we terrans have to scout our natural for proxies in every single game on jungle basin, why shouldnt protoss have to do the same?



Genius did scout it, and still lost.



he scouted too late and didnt react as good as he could have...


rofl what do you want him to do?

they want him to have ranged zealots. spring loaded psi blades ftw yo.

but on a serious note there isnt much he could have done other than pull all probes but then the T economy would have won


Exactly
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
November 26 2010 12:17 GMT
#1310
On November 26 2010 21:15 Reedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 21:14 Black Gun wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:13 MDew wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:12 Black Gun wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:11 ThorIsHere wrote:
Blizzard please fix terran all-ins plox thx



lol wtf is this qqing? we terrans have to scout our natural for proxies in every single game on jungle basin, why shouldnt protoss have to do the same?



Genius did scout it, and still lost.



he scouted too late and didnt react as good as he could have...


rofl what do you want him to do?

scout it earlier, pull all probes to prevent the bunkers from going up, not building a useless tech structure.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
DreXxiN
Profile Joined July 2010
United States494 Posts
November 26 2010 12:17 GMT
#1311
On November 26 2010 21:17 Yrq wrote:
blizzard, add shield battery into the game again, helps against shit like this


Suggested this earlier to defend against early T rushes and the idea was shunned instantly, being noted that the shields regen too fast for it to matter anymore...
MDew
Profile Joined November 2010
United States256 Posts
November 26 2010 12:17 GMT
#1312
On November 26 2010 21:16 des0lar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 21:13 Dommk wrote:
Hope Blizzard actually takes note and fixes this, so dumb


You can't fix this without completly breaking balance.

Most of the Terrans in GSL feel they have to win early because they lose in the endgame in TvP or TvZ.


IdrA - "Because they are bad and are riding the terrans strong early game."
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
November 26 2010 12:18 GMT
#1313
On November 26 2010 21:16 crappen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 21:15 Reedy wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:14 Black Gun wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:13 MDew wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:12 Black Gun wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:11 ThorIsHere wrote:
Blizzard please fix terran all-ins plox thx



lol wtf is this qqing? we terrans have to scout our natural for proxies in every single game on jungle basin, why shouldnt protoss have to do the same?



Genius did scout it, and still lost.



he scouted too late and didnt react as good as he could have...


rofl what do you want him to do?


I would want him to get a handful of HT, they own marines, even in smaller numbers. Maybe a carrier, they are not that much used.


sarcasm or stupid trolling... i cant tell >.<
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
November 26 2010 12:18 GMT
#1314
On November 26 2010 21:14 Caphe wrote:
Dont understand why people think this cheese is dumb? You have to check your natural for cheese. If any race that can proxy better than Terran on this map it is Protoss.
I lost some games to proxy gate way in my natural on the ladder before


I think people have a problem with the constant pulling of scvs. We have seen a constant stream of games where terran pulls half their scvs, which are much better than probe/drones because they can build bunkers, and don't lose any econ b/c of mules. It also has better synergy with a rush since marines are ranged and lings/zealots are melee.

That is the complaint.
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
November 26 2010 12:18 GMT
#1315
Genius' game 1 loss was entirely his own fault. He should have realized the SCV scout was way too late and the natural would have been the first place I would have checked. He also took his probe out of Rain's base too early and Rain made a reactor unscouted.
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
November 26 2010 12:18 GMT
#1316
On November 26 2010 21:14 Shakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 21:13 Pudge_172 wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:12 ThorIsHere wrote:
SCV all-ins makes for bad spectating, take note Blizzard.


This.

Not talking balance, but if this keeps up how would they fix it?


IMO make workers take double damage if they're more than a certain distance from a nexus/CC/hatch. Still good for defending, no good for these boring rushes.


Yes limit Terran more. That makes the most sense right? Scv's already got their hp nerfed. They're fine as they are.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13408 Posts
November 26 2010 12:19 GMT
#1317
On November 26 2010 21:18 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 21:14 Caphe wrote:
Dont understand why people think this cheese is dumb? You have to check your natural for cheese. If any race that can proxy better than Terran on this map it is Protoss.
I lost some games to proxy gate way in my natural on the ladder before


I think people have a problem with the constant pulling of scvs. We have seen a constant stream of games where terran pulls half their scvs, which are much better than probe/drones because they can build bunkers, and don't lose any econ b/c of mules. It also has better synergy with a rush since marines are ranged and lings/zealots are melee.

That is the complaint.


yeah marines should spawn with knives and guns are an upgrade that'll fix balance
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
November 26 2010 12:19 GMT
#1318
ah that stupid push again. I wonder if genius helds it off this time. Last time he got lucky with the T bad decisions. gogogog Genius
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
Yrq
Profile Joined August 2010
Iceland88 Posts
November 26 2010 12:19 GMT
#1319
On November 26 2010 21:17 DreXxiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 21:17 Yrq wrote:
blizzard, add shield battery into the game again, helps against shit like this


Suggested this earlier to defend against early T rushes and the idea was shunned instantly, being noted that the shields regen too fast for it to matter anymore...

shields only regen out of combat (after some seconds of being hit)

shield battery might be nice if it can regen the shields while getting hit.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-26 12:20:26
November 26 2010 12:19 GMT
#1320
On November 26 2010 21:18 KonohaFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 21:14 Shakes wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:13 Pudge_172 wrote:
On November 26 2010 21:12 ThorIsHere wrote:
SCV all-ins makes for bad spectating, take note Blizzard.


This.

Not talking balance, but if this keeps up how would they fix it?


IMO make workers take double damage if they're more than a certain distance from a nexus/CC/hatch. Still good for defending, no good for these boring rushes.


Yes limit Terran more. That makes the most sense right? Scv's already got their hp nerfed. They're fine as they are.



if they want to do something about the scv happy attacks theyll nerf mules not the scv. those "allin" moves just arent as allin as they should cause of the mule.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
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