Blizzcon Day 1 - Page 370
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Santi
Colombia466 Posts
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On October 23 2010 13:05 YyapSsap wrote: Boxer's macro was fine in that game (both games actually). If you guys haven't noticed, his units were constantly being pumped out as many as it can. But the thing with Z is that because of the larvae inject, you have 6~10 units (or a little more, say 5rax/3 facts) for T being reinforced as opposed to 40+ units coming from Z each wave. So im guessing boxer got a little to anxious after winning that straight up fight at the gold from multiple fronts. Most Ts, including myself do make a mistake of over pushing which boxer did (it would work in BW btw since the amount of reinforcements from Z is literally cut in half or more). He should have regathered his forces for another push. Maybe because a 100 terran army vs a 100 zerg army should survive with at least 50 left if microed correctly and they don't need as much reinforcements? thats how zerg works, herp derp. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On October 23 2010 13:04 Grack wrote: the truth is all games vs zerg look like race against time, u cant rly play long games because he will outmacro and rape you, thats not rly fun or healthy approach to the game, i wish blizzard tweaked this aspect so every race could enjoy fair macro game like in bw. you cant just tweak it tough, its one of the basic fundamentals of the zerg race hatch/lair/hive=production. You might aswell make anther game to change that. | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
On October 23 2010 13:01 imJealous wrote: Yeah, I spoke too soon sadly =( even the ray v player recording is corrupted. So it wasnt corrupted for a while there, and now all of a sudden it is? I didn't start this live so the problem is just occuring foe me ![]() | ||
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robertdinh
803 Posts
Let him stand on his own merits as a player in sc2, don't exaggerate his skill cause of his early BW success, and don't underrate him either. Just let him play and judge it objectively. He didn't put up an amazing fight vs cool in these games at all. You didn't even truly see cool abuse his amazing replenishment skills. | ||
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minru
United States78 Posts
On October 23 2010 13:04 Grack wrote: the truth is all games vs zerg look like race against time, u cant rly play long games because he will outmacro and rape you, thats not rly fun or healthy approach to the game, i wish blizzard tweaked this aspect so every race could enjoy fair macro game like in bw. Totally 100% agree. Zerg can just out macro toss and terran so hard right now. The "Zerg" race is starting to become more like a "turtle up and out macro enemy" style. | ||
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hungraa
United States25 Posts
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ReaperSpirit
Canada5 Posts
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Dental Floss
United States1015 Posts
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yoshinori
United States34 Posts
Please revamp the TL forum rules to include a rule to autoban anyone inserting a balance comment in any non starcraft 2 strategy thread. It really detracts from the enjoyment of appreciating other topics like HOW FREAKIN AWESOME BOTH PLAYERS WERE TODAY IN THE BLIZZCON EXHIBITION MATCH BETWEEN THE EMPEROR AND THE FRUIT DEALER. A Concerned TLer, yoshinori~ | ||
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fatvirgin90
United States71 Posts
On October 23 2010 13:10 Dental Floss wrote: Boxer is simply not as good as FD or any other top SC2 pro right now. I don't know how anyone could think he was top tier at SC2. ... have you watched his last two matches vs FD and Happiness? | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On October 23 2010 13:11 yoshinori wrote: Dear forum mods, Please revamp the TL forum rules to include a rule to autoban anyone inserting a balance comment in any non starcraft 2 strategy thread. It really detracts from the enjoyment of appreciating other topics like HOW FREAKIN AWESOME BOTH PLAYERS WERE TODAY IN THE BLIZZCON EXHIBITION MATCH BETWEEN THE EMPEROR AND THE FRUIT DEALER. A Concerned TLer, yoshinori~ an autoban is not exactly punishment fitting the crime, at all. just ignore it while the mods do their jobs. | ||
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Grack
51 Posts
On October 23 2010 13:08 Fa1nT wrote: Maybe because a 100 terran army vs a 100 zerg army should survive with at least 50 left if microed correctly and they don't need as much reinforcements? thats how zerg works, herp derp. not true small armies seems to favor zerg and beneling/roach/infestor armies are surprisingly very cost effective, the huge battles where power shifts on terran side usualy happen late game where zerg has alot of bases so it doesnt rly metter because he already build huge economy riding early/mid game advantage. | ||
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cHaNg-sTa
United States1058 Posts
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Dental Floss
United States1015 Posts
On October 23 2010 13:12 fatvirgin90 wrote: ... have you watched his last two matches vs FD and Happiness? Yeah, I just watched him get totally outclassed at blizzcon. I mean its nothing against boxer, but how can you play a game for a month and expect to beat the current champ - a former BW progamer no less - and win? | ||
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Whiztard
United States228 Posts
does anyone happen to have the match recorded or anything? | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On October 23 2010 13:13 cHaNg-sTa wrote: So much whining after one Bo3? Seriously? Look, both games, Fruit Dealer got on 4 base with little harass (til extremely late) and still had a huge tug of war with Boxer who was on 2 base. Guess what, the game is looking a lot like BW where Terran has to deny those Zerg expos. And Boxer has already shown us that with great micro, he could still fight 3-4 base Zerg off with 2 base Terran. If the maps weren't so shitty where the 3rd natural was so hard to take, then you may have witnessed something different. Those map positions are normally very bad for Zerg. It was extremely odd to see the Zerg as the one containing the Terran for those games. If a Terran can get a PF up at the middle expo on LT or metalopolis in those positions it's turns wildly in Terran's favor. Maybe it has something to do with zerg's going into midgame easier, maybe it was just a flaw in boxer's play, I dunno for sure. Boxer was still very impressive in those games, and I'm very happy to see him improving at such high rate. | ||
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Adonai
United States44 Posts
For so long its been "Zerg QQ maybe you should L2P" You have to build a supply depot before Barracks, end of the world! OMG we only have 5 viable openings instead of 7 GG to Fruit Dealer, Boxer was just out classed | ||
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fatvirgin90
United States71 Posts
On October 23 2010 13:15 Dental Floss wrote: Yeah, I just watched him get totally outclassed at blizzcon. I mean its nothing against boxer, but how can you play a game for a month and expect to beat the current champ - a former BW progamer no less - and win? Boxer played well enough to win both matches and it was a show match anyway. Can't really say anything until they play in a tournament. | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
Has no one noticed there's a whole match missing? A lower bracket finals before the championship match. | ||
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