EPTBesides that, I wished it was a bo7 or something since why do they have to end the convention so early? Not like gamers go to bed at this time (9 PM PST for those wondering).
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
Besides that, I wished it was a bo7 or something since why do they have to end the convention so early? Not like gamers go to bed at this time (9 PM PST for those wondering). | ||
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pieisamazing
United States1234 Posts
I'm sorry that your definition of micro is the hold position micro with MM that a silver-league player can do. Dropping banelings mid-battle and flanking is (if I had to put a mathematical value to it) something like 50 times harder than your precious "micro." | ||
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imJealous
United States1382 Posts
On October 23 2010 12:57 MrSexington wrote: Sadly, when I look at either the Lite Flash or the RayV player, all I get is this: ![[image loading]](http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e399/MrSexington/blizzardfail2.png) Yeah, I spoke too soon sadly =( even the ray v player recording is corrupted. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On October 23 2010 12:59 kojinshugi wrote: Why are you being so hostile? I said "the other two races". I'm not saying Z is too strong. I'm saying Z macro is stronger, so people should probably try deny the macro from ramping up instead of trading armies. Boxer would have probably done better if he'd denied those expos with timely scouting and a single medivac. The truth is hostile? Have even read some of these posts that are souring up one of the most epic matches of SC2 so far? The trolls were out in full force today. | ||
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Liquoid
United Kingdom275 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On October 23 2010 12:59 Taguchi wrote: its ok to nerdgasm about boxer and his skill and so on guys but.. he is really a limited player nowadays, his macro isnt good enough to compete at midlate game vs some of the new generation pros and no, his macro was never better than now, probably even worse at some points in his career (see him having trouble beating protoss in his heyday, a matchup based on economy and army size, not so much strategy or positioning as tvz or tvt) what would the sc2 community in tl.net say if flash and jaedong decided to switch over for a little while i wonder ;P the skillgap is still huge Next GSL will be Flash vs Jaedong if both switched now. Besides, Fruit was probably the better player in BW compared to Boxer when before both switched. Boxer hasn't been the same in BW since 2005. | ||
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formthehead
United States81 Posts
On October 23 2010 12:56 kojinshugi wrote: Who's raging about imba? I see more posts complaining about balance whining than I see actual balance whining. It's not unreasonable to talk about matchups if it's constructive and not outright whining. After an epic ZvT it's natural that people will talk about how lategame ZvT works. It'd be fine if the immediate argument wasn't "hey blizzard did something wrong" instead of "what did fruitdealer do to win so decisively". I don't know about all the other people whining about whiners, but I'm just sort of disappointed that even with a boxer vs fruitdealer exhibition casted by tastosis AND day9, there's someone who still finds something to be mad about. | ||
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anderkas
United States86 Posts
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Somi
Pakistan123 Posts
On October 23 2010 13:01 pieisamazing wrote: I'm sorry that your definition of micro is the hold position micro with MM that a silver-league player can do. Dropping banelings mid-battle and flanking is (if I had to put a mathematical value to it) something like 50 times harder than your precious "micro." Did we saw the same game? | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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Jaal
United States61 Posts
Unlikely. | ||
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thesauceishot
Canada333 Posts
It's true, though. We know BoxeR's SC1 control is godlike, but in that game he was dominated in every aspect. | ||
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fermat200pg
United States16 Posts
On October 23 2010 12:53 Jaal wrote: Under Huks player profile it says: Winner, 2007 and 2008 BlizzCon Invitational http://us.blizzard.com/blizzcon/tournaments/starcraft.xml Which game was this for? I think they forgot to remove that from the last Blizzcon (when it was Brood War players playing). | ||
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pieisamazing
United States1234 Posts
I was watching boxer vs fruitdealer. You may have been viewing the wrong stream. | ||
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Grack
51 Posts
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sevia
United States954 Posts
BoxeR displayed that he has what it takes to contend with the best, and Fruit Dealer showed true potential to become the first SC2 bonjwa (somewhat ironically). I can't wait for what's to come. | ||
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Yotta
United States270 Posts
On October 23 2010 12:57 OreoBoi wrote: Also seriously, all you terrans complaining, your race was imbalanced for a long time, let zerg have some fun you pricks =P Yeah, that's totally the mindset I hope Blizzard's balance team has. + Show Spoiler + not really | ||
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YyapSsap
New Zealand1511 Posts
So im guessing boxer got a little to anxious after winning that straight up fight at the gold from multiple fronts. Most Ts, including myself do make a mistake of over pushing which boxer did (it would work in BW btw since the amount of reinforcements from Z is literally cut in half or more). He should have regathered his forces for another push. | ||
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
On October 23 2010 13:02 formthehead wrote: It'd be fine if the immediate argument wasn't "hey blizzard did something wrong" instead of "what did fruitdealer do to win so decisively". I don't know about all the other people whining about whiners, but I'm just sort of disappointed that even with a boxer vs fruitdealer exhibition casted by tastosis AND day9, there's someone who still finds something to be mad about. I don't think that's the argument. And I don't see anyone mad, except a few single-digit smurf accounts with their one-liner raging. I don't even think there's an argument, but rather a discussion. I can see that any strategy discussion that factors races into it is bound to be treated as a balance whine, and that's probably understandable, given how much whining there is. So I'll stop talking about it here, just adding that I don't think for one second that FD won because he was Zerg, but rather that he's really good at playing his race and the game in general. I'm more interested in how ZvT will evolve. This was an epic match with epic casting. | ||
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StarSense
206 Posts
On October 23 2010 13:05 YyapSsap wrote: Boxer's macro was fine in that game (both games actually). If you guys haven't noticed, his units were constantly being pumped out as many as it can. But the thing with Z is that because of the larvae inject, you have 6~10 units (or a little more, say 5rax/3 facts) for T being reinforced as opposed to 40+ units coming from Z each wave. So im guessing boxer got a little to anxious after winning that straight up fight at the gold from multiple fronts. Most Ts, including myself do make a mistake of over pushing which boxer did (it would work in BW btw since the amount of reinforcements from Z is literally cut in half or more). He should have regathered his forces for another push. 1200 min end of 2nd game T_T off two bases | ||
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