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Ryzu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States369 Posts
October 16 2010 21:18 GMT
#4201
On October 17 2010 06:17 Frack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 06:15 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On October 17 2010 06:12 Frack wrote:
On October 17 2010 06:09 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 06:08 Frack wrote:
On October 17 2010 06:06 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 06:02 Piy wrote:
On October 17 2010 05:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 05:56 Frack wrote:
On October 17 2010 05:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
[quote]

if those games weren't interesting to you simply because they featured a bio ball (reading this post of yours i don't think that's the case for you, but certainly for others here) then you (using the term "you" loosely here!) are missing out on incredibly important aspects of this game and simply seeing 'well he made some marauders', that makes you a bad player and "you" should keep quiet!

I fail to see how me having a supposedly "Greater understanding" of the game would change my opinion of the games i saw, i think its an elitist argument on a base level and on a greater level its not really a counter at all to what im saying, its sitting in the camp of "well you just wouldnt understand, its a bit over your head". I have said again and again that just because i thought the game was boring doesnt mean intrinsically it was to anyone else, but im allowed to have my opinion regardless. I appreciate his micro and i think he deserved the victory, but so far as being a spectator is concerned if the whole tournament was like that then id be sorely dissapointed.


i don't understand how you can completely seperate yourself into two entities like that. the 'spectator' who is easily bored by seeing the same units over and over, and the 'player' who appreciates the tremendous display of skill that was select vs nony. i don't understand how ANY competitive player can be bored of a sc2 match simply because he's seen marauders before.


I think his argument is that the games aren't particularly varied and that the unit mixes from Terran have been very similar in every TvP mu today, yet that doesn't prevent good players from appreciating good play. Seems like a reasonable observation right now from a spectator standpoint, the other mu's have been a lot more enjoyable to watch from a casual spectator standpoint.


then we return to my original 'fuck the casual spectator this is teamliquid.net' standpoint!

You really cant see how appreciation and entertaining are two different things? I am not a casual spectator by any means.


quite frankly i don't see the necessity of separating the two. storkhwaiting summed it up pretty well

I gave you a prime example in other sports, i can give many many other examples

Maybe its part of the 1800 diamond club mentality on tl.net but the only arguments i see against seem elitist and seem to assume things about me as part of their argument which are not true, and seem to believe that my opinions is somehow irrelevant because they assume i dont understand how well Select played. You assume that i cant appreciate his micro, you assume i cant appreciate his scouting, and most of all the bridge key of the argument is you assume that because i appreciate these things i have to find it entertaining, well i do appreciate it but i dont find it entertaining, and i cant really argue better than that because whoever counters me is arguing on baseless accusations because of the general culture on here.


Basically, you're saying facts don't matter, only your opinion of what's entertaining. So quite frankly I don't give a shit what your opinion is anymore. You were trying to claim that Select's bio play was not impressive and boring. It is very impressive, and its entertainment value is an intangible based on individual opinion. Therefore, considering that all you want to do is insist on your opinion and have no facts to support it, there is no need for further discussion. Thanks and goodbye.

I gave you a prime example which you have not refuted, i have concluded you are not interested in arguing, if you derive all your enjoyment from statistics then god help you sir.

Thanks and goodbye (did i do that right?)



Are you just begging for a ban?
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
October 16 2010 21:18 GMT
#4202
Anyone who says that that game was boring because it was MMM has no idea what entertainment is.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
October 16 2010 21:18 GMT
#4203
Fun game. Those forcefields were just slightly off and that cost him dearly.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
October 16 2010 21:18 GMT
#4204
SeleCT is playing soooo fluently. I don't think KiWi will be able to take this series.
Life is Good.
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
October 16 2010 21:18 GMT
#4205
On October 17 2010 06:18 Skyze wrote:
lol hm.. tier 3 1200+ minerals and 800 gold in 4 collosus, or tier 1 marauders. What wins? Marauders of course!


I guess vikings are tier 1.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
October 16 2010 21:18 GMT
#4206
GODLIKE.

Micro and macro head and shoulders above Kiwi
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 16 2010 21:18 GMT
#4207
foreign toss players really should learn from korean toss - get some HT!!!!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
October 16 2010 21:18 GMT
#4208
On October 17 2010 06:18 Scodia wrote:
Seriously, Xel'Naga caverns creates the best bloody games. always people coming back from deficits.


Its terran. Thats what they do. I havent seen zerg/toss do the same.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
October 16 2010 21:18 GMT
#4209
hmm, really an unclever unit composition by kiwi. by going immortal zealot sentry dt, his core army has nothing to defend against the vikings. transitioning into colossi from this composition was a bad idea.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
October 16 2010 21:18 GMT
#4210
very entertaining game!
Would have loved Kiwi staying a bit more defensive after killing all the workers at selects gold.
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
October 16 2010 21:19 GMT
#4211
On October 17 2010 06:18 BraveGhost wrote:
even though kiwi defended well well... select's had his gold up for too long.. select denying kiwi's expo for too long ... gg


Yeah SeleCT had his gold up and running for 60+ seconds longer because SeleCT had his gold delayed for so long.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
October 16 2010 21:19 GMT
#4212
Now that was impressive from select. Probably the most interesting game I have seen so far
Siffer
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States467 Posts
October 16 2010 21:19 GMT
#4213
Come on Kiwi, pick it up! Show that WC3 players got what it takes in the American scene!
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
October 16 2010 21:19 GMT
#4214
I missed the past couple of hours why did Select and Tyler play a bo7 instead of a bo3?
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
October 16 2010 21:19 GMT
#4215
SelecT is such a gd beast. Im a fan now.
Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
Payout
Profile Joined October 2010
45 Posts
October 16 2010 21:19 GMT
#4216
On October 17 2010 06:18 Skyze wrote:
lol hm.. tier 3 1200+ minerals and 800 gold in 4 collosus, or tier 1 marauders. What wins? Marauders of course!

yea and mass vikings and insane micro had nothing to do with it
Theoren
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada810 Posts
October 16 2010 21:19 GMT
#4217
Kiwi got greedy there. He should have fallen back after picking off all the scv's and got in a better position.
DrGreen
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland708 Posts
October 16 2010 21:19 GMT
#4218
I dont see any reasonable counter to mass marauders. Even if u get carriers somehow he can 'transition' to mass marines in no time.
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
October 16 2010 21:19 GMT
#4219
Terran's units are so versatile. Almost unfair.
www.brainyweb.ca //web stuff!
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
October 16 2010 21:19 GMT
#4220
Hafu on the background of Kiwi's ? ;p
Stork[gm]
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