EPTWhat are your thoughts on ling/bling/hydra in midgame ZvT? I've seen a few koreans use that style on maps that are good for it, like bel'shir vestige.
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
What are your thoughts on ling/bling/hydra in midgame ZvT? I've seen a few koreans use that style on maps that are good for it, like bel'shir vestige. | ||
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Kit-Bar
Canada8 Posts
One question. In the protoss sh builds, you did not get locus life. Is that generally not a good idea? I assume getting roach heavy with some hydras and teching to viprs seems like a good idea. I was having trouble killing late game toss armies and ended up trying to trade and remaxing on mutas. Maybe ill try this. Also I have been using lings in zvp and then getting sh to corrupts to take down the collo. I will try this now. Thanka again for the guide! | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 07 2013 06:23 TheFish7 wrote: Awessoommee guide!!! Makes me want to go hit the ladder. Pretty much all the standard stuff gets touched on, very comprehensive. What are your thoughts on ling/bling/hydra in midgame ZvT? I've seen a few koreans use that style on maps that are good for it, like bel'shir vestige. I Tried ling/bane/hydra back in beta and I just had awful success with it. I don't think it's that great personally. On September 07 2013 06:30 Kit-Bar wrote: Hey Blade, really nice guide! I really enjoy these and they really allow me to change my game up. Makes sc2 more interesting trying new builds! One question. In the protoss sh builds, you did not get locus life. Is that generally not a good idea? I assume getting roach heavy with some hydras and teching to viprs seems like a good idea. I was having trouble killing late game toss armies and ended up trying to trade and remaxing on mutas. Maybe ill try this. Also I have been using lings in zvp and then getting sh to corrupts to take down the collo. I will try this now. Thanka again for the guide! I do get the extended locus life as soon as I decide i want to make sh I get the upgrade. | ||
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SCMothership
United States187 Posts
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
Now I only need to find the motivation to read/play^^ | ||
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figq
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Joedaddy
United States1948 Posts
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LeonePalle
United States3 Posts
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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sns3rsam
United States138 Posts
 Thank you! As a lowly plat player I will be definitely be hitting up the ladder today using these builds! | ||
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
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DPK
Canada487 Posts
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PXEnTei
United States209 Posts
Looks really nice, with a crap ton of info. Makes me jealous | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 07 2013 08:22 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: I can't help but notice that you didn't cover Snute's roach/bane/ling macro build. Is it because it's clearly inferior to muta/ling/bling in some way? If so, why hasn't it been edited out of the Zerg help me thread's OP? In my opinion it's clearly not as good as muta/ling/bane, but the reason I didn't write about it was partly forgetting about it and partly just not the biggest fan of it. | ||
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
On September 07 2013 08:42 blade55555 wrote: In my opinion it's clearly not as good as muta/ling/bane, but the reason I didn't write about it was partly forgetting about it and partly just not the biggest fan of it. It's because the opponent has a lot more medivac retention and you can't snipe mines, right? Or is there something else? | ||
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Kit-Bar
Canada8 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 07 2013 08:47 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: It's because the opponent has a lot more medivac retention and you can't snipe mines, right? Or is there something else? It's not just the medivac retention, it's also drop play is really hard to deal with even with static defense. Can be really hard to get past a 3rd, sometimes a 4th base due to drops. Also it's not great in a straight up fight after a certain point in the mid game. On September 07 2013 08:50 Kit-Bar wrote: One more question. You did not really talk about if the opponent in zvz goes mass mutas. Do you suggest you cut SH production? I was not sure if going mutas or hydras was the best option. I assume if you see mutas you just try to out muta him with the +1? You mean if he does a muta switch right? If so yes make some spores at bases and just make mutas yourself while getting the other upgrade as well so you remain ahead in upgrades. | ||
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
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newbornducky
42 Posts
Here's a typo I saw (and remember where I saw it): In the ZvP section under Swarmhost/Roach/Hydra Build, the last line should be "how blade normally plays ZvP" not "how blade normally plays ZvT" | ||
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