• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 23:56
CET 05:56
KST 13:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book1Clem wins HomeStory Cup 287HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April7Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Clem wins HomeStory Cup 28 How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 28 $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea StarCraft player reflex TE scores Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? 2024 BoxeR's birthday message
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1496 users

TAILS' 7:22 Dark Templar Drop and FE - Page 9

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
236 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next All
incogneeto
Profile Joined April 2013
1 Post
April 08 2013 13:15 GMT
#161
Haha wow I hope this stays a one hit wonder so Terrans don't learn to expect it. In silver league I went undefeated against over 10 Terran with this and the wins keep climbing (still undefeated against 3-4 Terran in gold). Easy to get the drop before 8min even as a newbie and I almost feel like I'm cheating using this in lower leagues. Thanks!
FlyingBanana
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia43 Posts
April 08 2013 13:53 GMT
#162
looks very weak to early pushes or proxy marauder
Like A Boss
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45264 Posts
April 08 2013 17:18 GMT
#163
This is fantastic Gotta try this out!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
megapants
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1314 Posts
April 08 2013 19:09 GMT
#164
Great write up, next stop colossus drops!
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
April 08 2013 19:18 GMT
#165
On April 08 2013 22:15 incogneeto wrote:
Haha wow I hope this stays a one hit wonder so Terrans don't learn to expect it. In silver league I went undefeated against over 10 Terran with this and the wins keep climbing (still undefeated against 3-4 Terran in gold). Easy to get the drop before 8min even as a newbie and I almost feel like I'm cheating using this in lower leagues. Thanks!

That's how it works in lower leagues! Copying good players is a good way to climb the ladder
KatuStarcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada161 Posts
April 08 2013 21:48 GMT
#166
fantastic write-up
Video games and whiskey.
porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
April 09 2013 04:29 GMT
#167
Hit this build and it did quite a bit of damage to me, thanks and no thanks for this build.
SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
April 09 2013 06:42 GMT
#168
On April 07 2013 15:19 padfoota wrote:
Fuck you all I hate dealing with DTs + dropship as terran ><

IMAGINE A FUCKING BANSHEE THAT DOES 50 DAMAGE AND CANNOT BE COUNTERED COMPLETELY BY TURRETS

And people think 1 rax FE still works
Sooo many new openers.

Well fuck this you guys wanna play with DTs imma stick to heavy widowmines



I love hearing Terran rage. I almost felt bad for Terran during the ZvZvZvZ days of the past year, but then I remembered GomTvT and Terrans winning tournaments by a moving with the 1-1-1. Oh well, now you know how it feels.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
GhostFall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States830 Posts
April 09 2013 08:50 GMT
#169
Back in WoL, the build I used that got me to mid masters was extremely similiar to this build. I didn't have the mothership core back then, so I had to make units early, but I didn't have to make a robotics facility because high ground warpin, hallucination, and forward pylon. For my sake, I hope this doesn't catch on because I like using my dark templars.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33546 Posts
April 09 2013 11:03 GMT
#170
FU FLYING
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
April 09 2013 11:04 GMT
#171
Wierdest game ever lol, he even had a shot at winning.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 09 2013 11:05 GMT
#172
Yoda reads Teamliquid too, unfortunately.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
April 09 2013 11:07 GMT
#173
Let's just make a protoss specific section to hide our gosu gay builds!
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
priestnoob
Profile Joined August 2011
243 Posts
April 09 2013 11:21 GMT
#174
On April 09 2013 20:07 Teoita wrote:
Let's just make a protoss specific section to hide our gosu gay builds!


Haha! Doesn't everybody know all Protoss players are, in fact, gay on the inside though? We can't hide who we are
BigPanda
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden7 Posts
April 09 2013 11:26 GMT
#175
Best article of the month, hands down to the author!

But I need some further explaining on the no-scouting part. I love to scout early especially in ladder since people can't help themselfs from stupid cheese builds that's easily countered by an early scout.

If I want to implement scouting in this build, when should I send the probe?

P.S. This build is crazy Swayze.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X21mJh6j9i4&feature=fvsr
ShaolinZorg
Profile Joined February 2013
Belgium47 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 12:26:37
April 09 2013 12:15 GMT
#176
what are the advantages of this build VS a 1 base all-in DT rush (GW->core>Twilight->Dark Shrine) with a proxy pylon; I just saw a replay and the firs DT landed at 6'50

Qui veut voyager loin ménage sa monture
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
April 09 2013 12:17 GMT
#177
The builds have completely different goals, you aren't allining with this of course. Having a nexus up makes it a little more unpredictable and harder to scout. Also, the warp prism helps in catching the terran offguard since they often make a turret at their nat but not one in their main.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
April 09 2013 13:38 GMT
#178
On April 08 2013 20:08 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 19:25 ShaolinZorg wrote:
What is the earliest a terran can out a widow mine to protect the mineral ?

if the loaded warp prism is destroyed with an early mine , you may be in serious troubl so

what do you think about the following patch :

26/34 : Sentry (instead of walker) then send phoenix hallu to disable potential mine, send warp prism afterwards




You can see a burrowed widow mine in the ground if you pay attention.


A warp prism can also tank a widow mine shot....
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
NVRLand
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden203 Posts
April 09 2013 15:55 GMT
#179
Damn, I just beat a masters terran with this (I'm like top dia/low master) despite arriving at 7:50. Problem was I was shit scared during a long time there, didn't really dare to chronoboost probes. Also, I went for the stalker before nexus since it's seems so damn scary :D

Loved the terran tears also, "cheesy as hell.."

Thank you for this build! :D
Nyast
Profile Joined November 2010
Belgium554 Posts
April 09 2013 17:26 GMT
#180
On April 09 2013 21:15 ShaolinZorg wrote:
what are the advantages of this build VS a 1 base all-in DT rush (GW->core>Twilight->Dark Shrine) with a proxy pylon; I just saw a replay and the firs DT landed at 6'50


The main advantage of this build is that it allows you to transition into a very economic and greedy mid-game, while staying relatively safe.

Because your expanding quickly, you'll be on equal terms with the Terran until your first DTs warp in. At this point, even a low number of scv kills, delaying some tech ( snipping a tech lab ) and forcing turrets is a decent advantage.

It forces the terran to be careful when leaving his base, delaying his first push until he has a decent number of scans piled up.

Meanwhile you're playing fucking greedy. Two forges, robo bay, all with an indecent number of gates ( 2 for a good while.. ). You rely on DT threat and MS core to defend light pushes.

One drawback of this BO, which I learned the hard way, is that it's pretty much a freeloss if your opponent was going for a 1/1/1 with a raven. But against standard play it seems very strong.
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
PiGosaur Cup #63
Liquipedia
The PiG Daily
20:50
Best Games
Maru vs Solar
Reynor vs TriGGeR
herO vs Solar
Clem vs TriGGeR
Maru vs TBD
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 302
RuFF_SC2 260
Nina 145
Livibee 62
PiLiPiLi 47
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4800
Shuttle 396
Leta 281
Hyuk 35
Dota 2
febbydoto38
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 770
C9.Mang0421
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv678
Foxcn403
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox603
Other Games
summit1g6292
WinterStarcraft539
ViBE135
ZombieGrub42
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1965
BasetradeTV111
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 54
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 20
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 34
• Diggity2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra2031
• Rush987
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
6h 4m
herO vs Maru
Replay Cast
19h 4m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 7h
OSC
1d 19h
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS4
HSC XXVIII
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.