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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
Drag CC or rax or w/e into a CG and then pressing that key acts as selecting the CG Update for all versions of TheCore 1.0 Add in more keyboard versions (to TheCore itself as well as visualizations). Integrate file download? Just firing off as the come into my brain. Let me know what you think. | ||
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Ninjury_J
Canada408 Posts
I don't think EntropyFails was addressing you're comment, I think he was talking to someone else.. As Jak mentioned, MM support isn't abandoned. It takes two simple rebinds, and production is on the mouse. The other original co-developer of TheCore is a huge advocate of mouse macro, so I wouldn't worry that this feature is going anywhere  . | ||
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JamesMadison
United States7 Posts
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JamesMadison
United States7 Posts
On April 19 2013 08:44 Spaceboy wrote: Wow, amazing work James! :D I doubt it'll ever be super useful for me as I use a UK keyboard (where the right side is arranged a bit differently) and ZRS.. but for those it applies to that looks pretty incredible! Support for other keyboard layouts is there, but the only other layout I built in is Dvorak, which is pretty useless. It should be easy to support alternate keyboards, even if the keys look different— PM me a picture of your keyboard and I'll try to fast-track it. | ||
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Orgganon
Portugal28 Posts
madison... you are the son of chuck norris! awesome! | ||
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EntropyFails
81 Posts
The argument is, "What reasons would make learning TheCore a bad thing for my Starcraft play?" If you posit an assertion of "The creators may abandon it" that is, in fact, a red herring. TheCore is a gameplay mechanic. Its support from the developers has nothing to do with it helping or harming your gameplay. This is doubly true given that you can rebind any edge cases that abandonment would cause. Let's not bring this up anymore. | ||
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Snoodles
401 Posts
On April 19 2013 08:55 JamesMadison wrote: Support for other keyboard layouts is there, but the only other layout I built in is Dvorak, which is pretty useless. Not Useless | ||
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JamesMadison
United States7 Posts
On April 19 2013 08:49 JaKaTaK wrote: Ideas/Things to do Drag CC or rax or w/e into a CG and then pressing that key acts as selecting the CG Update for all versions of TheCore 1.0 Add in more keyboard versions (to TheCore itself as well as visualizations). Integrate file download? Just firing off as the come into my brain. Let me know what you think. That's along the lines of my thinking. Basically the current commands are mapped straight from the keybinds, which you know are pretty uninformative, and it's not aware of any game logic. So there's no connection between the SCV and the SCV Basic Build or whatever. To replace that I want to build in a little state machine version of StarCraft, so it keeps track of the control groups and knows when commands change what's selected and such. | ||
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JamesMadison
United States7 Posts
Don't tell anyone... I actually use Dvorak too. But I didn't bundle in a Dvorak hotkey layout, so there's no way to use it currently. | ||
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Snoodles
401 Posts
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JamesMadison
United States7 Posts
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
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thayneq
96 Posts
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thayneq
96 Posts
I apologize to the folks on here if my previous post was rude or condescending. My intention was to show my support for the benefits of this hotkey layout, not start a fight. So.... sorry! Has anyone had any luck with my swarm host tricks a few pages back? | ||
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thayneq
96 Posts
On April 19 2013 05:39 Snoodles wrote: That's weird, I also got the original from github, and it has the same name. No matter, this one works, it has everything bound except create/jump location 8, which I can do myself. Thanks. Time for another 25 rounds of multitasking trainer. BTW, I highly recommend it to you guys for practicing the core, it's what I used to get fluent, it's a custom map where you do your build order vs the AI, while on a separate island running a probe away from a zergling the entire game. Your minerals can never go above a certain limit, your macro energy can never get too high(injects, mules, chrono). You're very much forced to use camera locations, hotkeys, ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qt4U66J.png) I could never figure out how to "win" with the multitasking trainer.... I probably should read the instructions again... There was some objective you have to complete, picking up a guy or something? I could never figured out how to actually make that happen, and would inevitably die. | ||
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Sickafant
Canada19 Posts
It also seems that the hotkeys are starting to specialize to each race. Does this mean that the Random hotkeys are kind of gimped? When off-racing, would it be more effective to pick a race and load the hotkeys designed for that race? | ||
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teuthida
United States104 Posts
Sickafant, personally, I'd suggest jumping into 1.0 at this point, especially if you play protoss or terran as those races seem pretty settled right now. | ||
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
Just a thought, but i guess it would be pretty hard since there's so many different key setups (and the core seems to be always changing), so it may not be worthwhile. EDIT: Oh, I didn't even see the update lol. I guess that kinda makes this obsolete ;P + Show Spoiler + http://i.imgur.com/4eWMojh.jpg | ||
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
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Ninjury_J
Canada408 Posts
I would suggest jumping right into alpha 1.0. The terran, protoss and random layouts are actually identical. The zerg one is different, since zerg are, in a word, weird. Unless you main zerg, if you want to offrace or go random, I would suggest going with the other layout. @Granite, The original data was obtained by finding the easiest keys to press and matching them with the most used in game functions. Since then, the developers have refined the process to make certain combinations easier and some things more intuitive and easier to remember. By now, the system used is general: it generally follows the cost of units/buildings. So to answer your question directly, another 2000 games is not necessary to obtain and analyze. That being said, throughout the beta and up until now, many people on this thread have been watching and commenting to ensure that most problems get addressed. The project is actually so dynamic that something new has pretty much changed every week for the last 4 weeks that I can remember. I expect it to slow down once the release of 1.0 gets finalized. My personal philosophy is this: There is one and only one most efficient, fully general (which means for many users, not just for one) hotkey layout. It is statistically unlikely that we ever get there, but hey, by now we must be pretty damn close. | ||
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