• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:49
CET 11:49
KST 19:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump0Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4) BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win
Tourneys
StarCraft2.fi 15th Anniversary Cup Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Foreign Brood War Data analysis on 70 million replays MBCGame Torrents
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO16 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Megathread The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
Physical Exertion During Gam…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1054 users

[G] TheCore - Advanced Keyboard Layout - Page 11

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 432 Next
asdir
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany39 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 11:18:04
June 08 2012 09:07 GMT
#201
On June 08 2012 17:54 ZombieDenden wrote:
JaKaTaK, could you please make layout maps which have all the relevant keys on them? I see how my control groups are laid out but not anything else. Or did i miss something?


If you need them to rebuild the layout for a German keyboard, you can use my German version. Otherwise, look here for the original setup and at the bottom of the orignal post for recent changes to the original setup in the changelog.

@Jakatak: I will try to do it for the other three layouts as well and add the Terran changes (overlooked them so far). Should not be too much work (but won't upload them until tomorrow, since I won't get home until then). The changelog is very helpful by the way.
Quaterno
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom69 Posts
June 08 2012 10:08 GMT
#202
Hey, I started using this a few days ago (master zerg) and I like it, just getting used to it now. I'm using the right handed no mouse version and I've noticed that overlord load is on '/' whereas generate creep is on '.' I would think that '/' is a lot easier to hit with the thumb so I've switched them, also ended up switching the warp prism transport mode because the UI was complaining about unbound keys and that seems to make sense as well as people don't really use load, afaik there's no reason to use it. it's like using the move command, it's kind of obsolete (medivac ended up switching heal and load although people don't use heal either but you're more likely to use it than load)

What do you think? Is there a reason that '/' is used for load as it is so easy to press? Do people use it?
bourkes
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia9 Posts
June 08 2012 10:24 GMT
#203
Hi, started learning the new set up, on e the rh with mouse buttons, i need to change the cansle to left button but cant work out how, f5 is way to far away, left is way faster to hit and my fingers dont have to move off the keys, if anyone could point me in the right direction that would be great
Quaterno
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom69 Posts
June 08 2012 12:57 GMT
#204
Also, burrow on ',' feels hard, which finger is supposed to be used, middle? I like having it on '#' since I feel like it's harder to curl fingers down than it is to reach up and obviously then I can burrow with my thumb

@bourkes Open the menu and press hotkeys, go into any of the races and select a unit/building, click the cancel option and then reassign the key. You might have to change a few under the global tab as well, just look for f5 and replace with your key
Czarnodziej
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 13:29:20
June 08 2012 13:28 GMT
#205
MS Sidewinder X4 is incompatible with TheCore RRM, due to excessively long space

image

Quaterno
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom69 Posts
June 08 2012 13:41 GMT
#206
Does that mean it's incompatible? What's wrong with the long space?

Also, I had another 'also' Why are there 2 keys for borrow/unburrow. It sounded nice but when trying it, it seems that if you have a mix of burrowed and unburrowed units you cannot press the unburrow to unburrow, you only have the option to burrow the rest of the unburrowed units. The only time the unburrow option is enabled is when you have all burrowed units selected. Since there is only need for 1 key which should it be? I'm not a fan of ',' as I said earlier. '8' is cool and '#' seems to be okay, I'm not really used to either enough to comment, maybe they're as good. I guess if infestors are on 'L' you will be burrowing them a lot and '8' or '#' work with them. Main army being on '9' could be used or any of the harass groups I guess. I think maybe '#' would be better but idk
Czarnodziej
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland624 Posts
June 08 2012 13:49 GMT
#207
It means that buttons ( , . /) are way harder to press without straining the thumb.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 15:56:14
June 08 2012 15:53 GMT
#208
NEW PATCH RELEASED TODAY! Please use the new versions, as that is what we need to be tested. Thanks :D

@vangarde You should take a look at the info section of my Twitch Page This is the system I use to teach mechanics in Sc2. Very much like your tier system, but more detailed. I would strongly suggest giving it a try :D

@zombie The artwork is out of my hands. For now, you'll have to download the files and look at the Data Document for how we suggest using your control groups. Shiny new artwork for all versions will be created for the full release, but since there are so many changes in the beta stages, it would be a waste of time to keep making new artwork for every change

@Quaterno The load button is used pretty extensively by the Terran pros. (Look at the Data Document) Because this is for random players we had to make compromises, however, I am considering keeping this one on the race specific versions as well, because I can't see why a terran could make use of load while a zerg or protoss could not. Any ideas?

@Czar You have 2 options with that keyboard to use this layout.
1: press / and . with your index finger
2: press / and . with your thumb

I play lefty and press X with my thumb and have absolutely no problem, however, if this uncomfortable for you, pressing it with your index finger should be fine.

"," was never meant to be pressed with the thumb. Just / and .
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
wc4482
Profile Joined September 2010
United States45 Posts
June 08 2012 18:04 GMT
#209
I haven't tested the new version yet because I'm at work. I'm wondering why the evo chamber upgrades are a little different than the spire upgrades. I think it would make sense to have carapace as / and attack as "I" melee and J ranged
SC2 name: ThelVlaster on NA server
poeticEnnui
Profile Joined September 2010
United States78 Posts
June 08 2012 18:33 GMT
#210
Is there a changelog? I can't find one, and am curious as to exactly what changed. DLing now.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
June 08 2012 18:42 GMT
#211
I have a suggestion:

How about a layout where your fingers are on jkl; with your thumb in the void of the two keys you took out? Personally I find it a lot easier to reach up for a key then down. You could angle your hand such that space would be hit by the area where your pinky connects to your hand (I have no idea what it is called).
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
wc4482
Profile Joined September 2010
United States45 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 19:21:10
June 08 2012 19:13 GMT
#212
The top of your fifth metacarpal.

Just imagining the motion of hitting space bar with the thick part of that bone, I feel like it would be hard to coordinate with other key presses. You basically have to fully extend all four fingers to precisely hit the space bar which would force you to relocate your fingers back to the home keys.

I haven't tried this yet, mind you
SC2 name: ThelVlaster on NA server
wc4482
Profile Joined September 2010
United States45 Posts
June 08 2012 19:22 GMT
#213
On June 09 2012 03:33 poeticEnnui wrote:
Is there a changelog? I can't find one, and am curious as to exactly what changed. DLing now.


I too see the benefit in a change log history. Such as ver 1.00 and ver 1.01 and the differences between
SC2 name: ThelVlaster on NA server
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 19:33:01
June 08 2012 19:32 GMT
#214
On June 09 2012 04:13 wc4482 wrote:
The top of your fifth metacarpal.

Just imagining the motion of hitting space bar with the thick part of that bone, I feel like it would be hard to coordinate with other key presses. You basically have to fully extend all four fingers to precisely hit the space bar which would force you to relocate your fingers back to the home keys.

I haven't tried this yet, mind you

I don't know, after trying it ~10-15 times, the only finger that comes off the keyboard at all is my thumb because I just twist my wrist. You would turn your keyboard so when your fingers are sitting on jkl; your thumb would be sitting between windows key and they key left of the control button.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
ksert
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany7 Posts
June 08 2012 21:00 GMT
#215
hey asdir, could you make an updated german version of the layout? would be sooo nice!
Dirichlet
Profile Joined April 2011
21 Posts
June 08 2012 21:55 GMT
#216
I'm not a big fan of the camera changes. It's so easy to misclick and accidentally change the control groups on O and P and ;.
saberslash49
Profile Joined March 2011
24 Posts
June 08 2012 22:29 GMT
#217
Hey all, just downloaded this for the first time and I've only played 4 games with it, so I'm not used it to it all, but I would like to just say a really big thanks. This layout is pure genius, and I'm really excited to be able to play it once I become fluent and adapt myself to this layout.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
June 08 2012 23:09 GMT
#218
hey all, did a lot of testing today so I didn't have the time to fix the changelog. It will be updated soon. :D

Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
June 08 2012 23:32 GMT
#219
why is hellion on I and tank on J in all of the downloadable versions? Isn't it supposed to be the other way around?
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
June 08 2012 23:49 GMT
#220
On June 09 2012 00:53 JaKaTaK wrote:
NEW PATCH RELEASED TODAY! Please use the new versions, as that is what we need to be tested. Thanks :D

@vangarde You should take a look at the info section of my Twitch Page This is the system I use to teach mechanics in Sc2. Very much like your tier system, but more detailed. I would strongly suggest giving it a try :D

@zombie The artwork is out of my hands. For now, you'll have to download the files and look at the Data Document for how we suggest using your control groups. Shiny new artwork for all versions will be created for the full release, but since there are so many changes in the beta stages, it would be a waste of time to keep making new artwork for every change

@Quaterno The load button is used pretty extensively by the Terran pros. (Look at the Data Document) Because this is for random players we had to make compromises, however, I am considering keeping this one on the race specific versions as well, because I can't see why a terran could make use of load while a zerg or protoss could not. Any ideas?

@Czar You have 2 options with that keyboard to use this layout.
1: press / and . with your index finger
2: press / and . with your thumb

I play lefty and press X with my thumb and have absolutely no problem, however, if this uncomfortable for you, pressing it with your index finger should be fine.

"," was never meant to be pressed with the thumb. Just / and .
¨

Please list the changes in the new patch for those of us on different keyboards who cant download and use the preset ones, we need to go in and add patched changes ourselves through the changelog.

War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 432 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 11m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 227
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 1285
Sharp 1262
firebathero 742
Larva 503
Hyuk 445
ZerO 346
Mini 293
Soma 227
PianO 210
Pusan 143
[ Show more ]
Light 124
Leta 122
EffOrt 113
Dewaltoss 99
Killer 93
910 92
BeSt 84
Rush 73
Sacsri 68
Shine 58
JulyZerg 57
hero 51
Shinee 50
ToSsGirL 40
Mind 34
yabsab 33
Movie 31
sorry 30
ggaemo 27
ajuk12(nOOB) 27
Snow 26
Free 23
Bale 15
NaDa 12
zelot 11
SilentControl 6
JYJ 0
Dota 2
XcaliburYe130
NeuroSwarm86
League of Legends
JimRising 397
C9.Mang0238
Reynor83
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1698
shoxiejesuss724
allub80
Super Smash Bros
Westballz35
Other Games
summit1g9532
Fuzer 235
crisheroes188
ZerO(Twitch)7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick469
BasetradeTV167
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota266
League of Legends
• Jankos1946
• Lourlo1105
Upcoming Events
WardiTV 2025
1h 11m
StarCraft2.fi
5h 11m
PiGosaur Monday
14h 11m
StarCraft2.fi
1d 6h
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 13h
The PondCast
1d 23h
WardiTV 2025
2 days
StarCraft2.fi
2 days
WardiTV 2025
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
IPSL
4 days
Sziky vs JDConan
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs TBD
herO vs Zoun
WardiTV 2025
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Tarson vs DragOn
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Revival: Season 3
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
RSL Offline Finals
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.