• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:14
CET 13:14
KST 21:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)35
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey!
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Which foreign pros are considered the best? Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Provigil(modafinil) pills Cape Town+27 81 850 2816
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1244 users

[G] Bronze to Masters, Improving Mechanics - Page 30

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 32 67 Next
lunafraga
Profile Joined February 2012
United States35 Posts
May 23 2012 02:57 GMT
#581
Very helpful guide to veryone who wants to learn about good macro management in sc2.Filter is GOSU!
Timing can kill speed.
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 23 2012 05:55 GMT
#582
To be honest, i think this guide is all you need if you're terran, it makes other guides look medicore. Thanks again filter, im about to be promoted to masters (currently in high diamond facing mid masters) because of this guide.
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
May 23 2012 13:25 GMT
#583
Thank you so much! This is great for us total beginners. While I love Day9, his target audience seems to be a step above me. He does hammer the basics but you do it very clearly and in a concrete, noob-friendly way. You have helped me a lot!
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Thorrn
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia4 Posts
May 23 2012 23:49 GMT
#584
Great guide its been very helpful.
I seem stuck on the Episode 8 benchmarks however. I just seem never able to make the 14 minute max out and normally manage at 14:20-14:30.
Just wondering if anyone else is having trouble with this benchmark?
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
May 24 2012 00:33 GMT
#585
Don't stress out over the 14 minute max out. It's virtually impossible if you're getting upgrades and teching properly.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Snoodles
Profile Joined March 2012
401 Posts
May 24 2012 02:55 GMT
#586
I think it's less time-consuming to 4gate or 7roachrush your way to Gold league and then start macro-building from there. I saw way too much stupid stuff, like extreme turtling with planetary fortresses, or mass cannons into void ray/colossus, stuff that even if you out-macro you can lose, or you can win after a 45- minute engagement of sending wave after wave after wave.
Heartscry
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
May 24 2012 11:49 GMT
#587


Signed up to the website mainly in order to thank the OP for such a fantastic resource. It's brilliant for a first-timer or someone switching over from another race - great to see a decent macro build being introduced earlier, too.

Thanks again!
NVRLand
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden203 Posts
May 24 2012 12:36 GMT
#588
Can't wait for a toss one!
lamiller
Profile Joined September 2011
United States92 Posts
May 24 2012 20:48 GMT
#589
I dont know if I already said this.. But these video's are great and have improved my ability greatly.
Blackknight232
Profile Joined July 2011
United States169 Posts
May 25 2012 05:50 GMT
#590
what do you do about 2 base baneling bust cause i'm getting screwed by it all the time and i have no amount units or bunkers to stop it and when i do they just keep on doing it over and over again.
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
May 25 2012 07:49 GMT
#591
On May 25 2012 14:50 Blackknight232 wrote:
what do you do about 2 base baneling bust cause i'm getting screwed by it all the time and i have no amount units or bunkers to stop it and when i do they just keep on doing it over and over again.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=314175
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333416
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304038
androobay
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2 Posts
May 25 2012 13:10 GMT
#592
Hey filter, just want to say thanks for this video series. It has really helped me a lot. I was a low gold terran versing mostly silvers. But now my rank has jumped from 40 to top 8 gold and I am starting to verse platinum players. I had ladder anxiety before watching your videos. But now I feel more relaxed, knowing that this build is really solid and safe against most things. I still get nervous pressing the search button on 1v1, but once I start playing 1 game, I feel like playing another game and another game and another game lol. My winrate is maybe around 80 percent. Most of the loses are from cheese. Anyway, thanks again filter for the videos.
Shmu
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada27 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 15:02:28
May 25 2012 15:01 GMT
#593
Time for an update, and more praise.

I just started the Bronze Zerg benchmarks on the ladder, and so far I've gone 11-1, bringing me to a solid Rank 1 in my Gold division. I'm hitting top gold, and plat - winning easily.

the one loss was a bunker rush (a terrible one)... it shouldn't have been an issue at all, but I've been so obsessed with making drones that I panicked and completely botched my defense. However, I was playing early in the morning and wound up re-queuing against the same guy again.

He actually apologized for the cheese, and promised a macro game... I walked into his base at 12 minutes or so with three times his supply, and twice as many workers. ( incidentally I was still off my benchmarks this game )

Him: "Nice army..."
Him: "What build is that... Stephano?"
Me: "Not a build, just macro!"

I directed him to FilterSC, explaining how these guides changed my life - He got confused that my zerg build was from a terran macro guide, then gg'd.

Life is good. Filter is amazing. Can't wait for Silver Zerg Benchmark!
fatty77
Profile Joined December 2009
United States41 Posts
May 25 2012 23:34 GMT
#594
On May 26 2012 00:01 Shmu wrote:

Life is good. Filter is amazing. Can't wait for Silver Zerg Benchmark!


Couldn't agree more, on all three points.

Haven't seen Filter post for a while in this thread, I thought he said he was working on some more Zerg benchmarks last week but I'm not sure. Can't wait to see them.
Snoodles
Profile Joined March 2012
401 Posts
May 26 2012 00:07 GMT
#595
On May 26 2012 08:34 fatty77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2012 00:01 Shmu wrote:

Life is good. Filter is amazing. Can't wait for Silver Zerg Benchmark!


Couldn't agree more, on all three points.

Haven't seen Filter post for a while in this thread, I thought he said he was working on some more Zerg benchmarks last week but I'm not sure. Can't wait to see them.


He's probably trying to figure out the right way to teach zerg. I assume zerg and protoss aren't as straight forward since they dont have a basic unit that shoots up and down. There WAS a guy on reddit who went from bronze to high plat making only stalkers, and a guy who laddered up as zerg making only queens lol, but those lessons arent as practical.
alexamasan
Profile Joined June 2010
United States13 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 03:38:46
May 26 2012 03:37 GMT
#596
These are the types of guides we need more of here. I loved to watch day9, but my mechanics were never able to support the interesting strategies he had. He also had some dailies that talked about the fundamental mechanics, but giving a specific build order and goal to work with here really helps out a lot more. This will also help me learn other races once he's done with them. Everyone should subscribe to filter'schannel or ask other casters to look into this and give him a shout out.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
May 26 2012 19:35 GMT
#597
zerg bronze benchmarks feel quite difficult relative to the terran ones

managing all those injects + drones for 8 minutes straight then keeping the injecting going as you take gas + tech up to roaches and mass roaches till the upgrades complete is a little harder than building scvs + rax + depots + marines for 13 mins
lukasdesign
Profile Joined April 2011
Switzerland93 Posts
May 27 2012 10:08 GMT
#598
On May 27 2012 04:35 Frolossus wrote:
zerg bronze benchmarks feel quite difficult relative to the terran ones

managing all those injects + drones for 8 minutes straight then keeping the injecting going as you take gas + tech up to roaches and mass roaches till the upgrades complete is a little harder than building scvs + rax + depots + marines for 13 mins


I agree, but pushing out at 10, setting up a 3 third, adding extra production and micro your push at the same time is the real challange as Terran. While Z has a big chunk of work already done after 8 Minutes...

This is actually while i willl give Z a try. I hate the boring start as a T
alexamasan
Profile Joined June 2010
United States13 Posts
May 27 2012 14:32 GMT
#599
On May 27 2012 04:35 Frolossus wrote:
zerg bronze benchmarks feel quite difficult relative to the terran ones

managing all those injects + drones for 8 minutes straight then keeping the injecting going as you take gas + tech up to roaches and mass roaches till the upgrades complete is a little harder than building scvs + rax + depots + marines for 13 mins


Just keep going, it is difficult, but it just takes practice. I am able to do it now and I wasn't before and I'm beating gold league players while still in bronze (as long as they don't rush me ^^). I got promoted to silver league. I will continue with the bronze league strategy until he uploads the silver league one. I'm sure eventually he'll show us how to deal with rushes.
USvDix
Profile Joined May 2012
Austria1 Post
May 27 2012 14:46 GMT
#600
Your Terran guide was awesome! Helped me a lot thank you :D

I do not really feel comfortable playing your TvT variations , ( I m sure hey are awesome builds but for some reason i can`t fnid myself playing them confortable as said above,)


So yesterday at Red Bull Lan i saw, i belive it was bomber (might be wrong here ;D so many games ^^)
do a simmilar build than your`s , with that i do not only mean 1 rax expand but simmilar timings but with different outcome. So i decided to give it a shot and tried to create my own variaton,
I,ve ben trying different things out the whole day now and this one seems about right .

http://drop.sc/186751

My game play in this replay is far away from beeing perfect and i end up making a few mistakes. Ive been able to max out in slightly under 14 minutes in other games , But this one probabely shows the way i wanted to play it out the best.

I would be glad if you guys could spare some time and look at the replay and give me some tips or maybe help me refine the buildorder.
Please do keep in mind that I m only at platin leve tough.
And again i can only thank you again filter this guide is awesome :D thanks for your time ^^

Prev 1 28 29 30 31 32 67 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RongYI Cup
11:00
Playoffs Day 3
TriGGeR vs MaruLIVE!
RotterdaM726
ComeBackTV 530
WardiTV491
IndyStarCraft 193
Rex123
BRAT_OK 98
3DClanTV 66
LamboSC251
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 726
IndyStarCraft 193
SortOf 128
Rex 123
BRAT_OK 98
LamboSC2 51
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5549
Rain 2768
Horang2 1275
Flash 738
Shuttle 437
Hyuk 426
BeSt 294
Pusan 272
Mong 256
Light 251
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 225
Last 177
Zeus 159
Hyun 153
Rush 134
ZerO 133
Soulkey 114
Soma 112
Snow 104
hero 100
Dewaltoss 69
Mind 51
Barracks 42
ToSsGirL 36
Shinee 31
Hm[arnc] 26
Free 20
Yoon 19
GoRush 15
sorry 15
Noble 15
scan(afreeca) 14
910 14
SilentControl 10
Icarus 9
Nal_rA 8
Dota 2
Gorgc5534
XaKoH 527
Fuzer 125
XcaliburYe125
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2349
zeus1008
x6flipin542
edward87
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor119
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi1319
B2W.Neo875
Sick243
crisheroes216
Pyrionflax164
Mew2King92
ToD85
KnowMe32
ZerO(Twitch)11
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick773
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• iHatsuTV 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota246
League of Legends
• Jankos1583
• Stunt888
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
20h 46m
HomeStory Cup
1d 23h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-26
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.