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On March 14 2012 05:19 ichunddu9 wrote:
i think to the protoss stream you should add grubby
his mechanics are very good too
and naniwa
otherwise good thread, doesn t help me, because i m too good but good thread
ah i forgot about grubby! yes ill add him and I didn't know naniwa streamed. ill have to check him out
On March 14 2012 05:14 Snoodles wrote:
What program do you use to record fpvods?
xsplit broadcaster
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United States35 Posts
Not sure if this is a typo, or just unclear: "I am a 17 year gamer living in upper New York." Should this be "17-year-old gamer", or have you played games for 17 years?
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This is really well written and very helpful.
Thanks so much!
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Br3ezy I don't feel you address the method of learning new hotkeys from the very beginning. When players are faced with a new set of hotkeys (location keys) and other smart hotkey tricks, the very first thing to do is get accustomed to them. This can only be done by taking it very very slow. The ideal way would be to play versus the CPU on very easy where there would be no pressure whatsoever. Every time you make a mistake, you go back and redo it how you were supposed to do it. Thus you make sure you don't start on any bad habits. Once the player feel he can do more he could naturally raise the CPU level. The mechanical speed should only be risen if the player feel capable of pressuring himself without making too many mistakes. The main thing is to correct yourself every time you make a mistake.
While spamming is good to keep the momentum and warm up, it is also huge problem in creating bad mechanical habits.
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This is absolutely wonderful. Many people want to improve and constantly visit TL to do so. What you have presented is a wonderful laid out track of HOW to improve. Not only is it a well written guide, but it's a guide to one of the most frequently asked questions in Starcraft history. Thank you  . I will personally be using the many suggestions in here.
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you've inspired me, thanks for a comprehensive guide for mechanics. <3 hope you make race-specific mechanical guides for zerg and terran too!
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On March 14 2012 07:56 Mikkerthebhu wrote:
Br3ezy I don't feel you address the method of learning new hotkeys from the very beginning. When players are faced with a new set of hotkeys (location keys) and other smart hotkey tricks, the very first thing to do is get accustomed to them. This can only be done by taking it very very slow. The ideal way would be to play versus the CPU on very easy where there would be no pressure whatsoever. Every time you make a mistake, you go back and redo it how you were supposed to do it. Thus you make sure you don't start on any bad habits. Once the player feel he can do more he could naturally raise the CPU level. The mechanical speed should only be risen if the player feel capable of pressuring himself without making too many mistakes. The main thing is to correct yourself every time you make a mistake.
While spamming is good to keep the momentum and warm up, it is also huge problem in creating bad mechanical habits.
We will add a step to the "from slow to fast" part of the guide. We made the guide with a target audience of a say 120+ apm masters player as the starting point. We will extend that starting point down lower to make this even more useful. Wait for the first revision of the guide (prolly this weekend).
EDIT-
SICK we got spotlighted. Br3ezy and I are beyond happy that are efforts are recognized. We spent a while on the v1.0 of this.
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I really appreciate this guide, it's bookmarked now for me, and I will be referring to it often. I never really realized the importance of APM in general, and I also didn't really think I could ever get above 40-50. Well I started spamming like you suggested, and according to SC2Gears i got 117 APM and almost 80 EAPM. Huge change from my 40-50 usual, and I felt much more in control and aware of what was going on. Thanks!
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Great read and nice guide.
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Can someone post what screen recording software they use?
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On March 14 2012 11:56 Snoodles wrote:
Can someone post what screen recording software they use?
I use FRAPS and Xsplit.
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Great post Man.
It would be nice to see some comments about computer set up. Things like mouse sensitivity, mouse acceleration, that type of thing.
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On March 14 2012 07:56 Mikkerthebhu wrote:
Br3ezy I don't feel you address the method of learning new hotkeys from the very beginning. When players are faced with a new set of hotkeys (location keys) and other smart hotkey tricks, the very first thing to do is get accustomed to them. This can only be done by taking it very very slow. The ideal way would be to play versus the CPU on very easy where there would be no pressure whatsoever. Every time you make a mistake, you go back and redo it how you were supposed to do it. Thus you make sure you don't start on any bad habits. Once the player feel he can do more he could naturally raise the CPU level. The mechanical speed should only be risen if the player feel capable of pressuring himself without making too many mistakes. The main thing is to correct yourself every time you make a mistake.
While spamming is good to keep the momentum and warm up, it is also huge problem in creating bad mechanical habits.
Im sorry if my first post sounded offensive, i was trying to touch upon a point similiar to this about mastering the mechanics before improving speed. I wasnt quite sure that your target audience was for fast players trying to go supersonic, however the ideas could be tailored to specific skill levels by a coach with ease.
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On March 14 2012 13:31 MafiaCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 07:56 Mikkerthebhu wrote:
Br3ezy I don't feel you address the method of learning new hotkeys from the very beginning. When players are faced with a new set of hotkeys (location keys) and other smart hotkey tricks, the very first thing to do is get accustomed to them. This can only be done by taking it very very slow. The ideal way would be to play versus the CPU on very easy where there would be no pressure whatsoever. Every time you make a mistake, you go back and redo it how you were supposed to do it. Thus you make sure you don't start on any bad habits. Once the player feel he can do more he could naturally raise the CPU level. The mechanical speed should only be risen if the player feel capable of pressuring himself without making too many mistakes. The main thing is to correct yourself every time you make a mistake.
While spamming is good to keep the momentum and warm up, it is also huge problem in creating bad mechanical habits. Im sorry if my first post sounded offensive, i was trying to touch upon a point similiar to this about mastering the mechanics before improving speed. I wasnt quite sure that your target audience was for fast players trying to go supersonic, however the ideas could be tailored to specific skill levels by a coach with ease.
Don't worry we didn't take offense. We agree with your point even!
On March 14 2012 12:07 CecilSunkure wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 11:56 Snoodles wrote:
Can someone post what screen recording software they use? I use FRAPS and Xsplit.
To be specific, these are the best 2 free pieces of software (free atm in the case of xsplit). Xsplit is the software that both Br3ezy and myself use, as well as almost every streamer as far as I know.
I have been asked several times, Xsplit CAN do offline recording. Just select Local Broadcast as your place to broadcast to.
On March 14 2012 12:22 Pigzyf5 wrote:
Great post Man.
It would be nice to see some comments about computer set up. Things like mouse sensitivity, mouse acceleration, that type of thing.
Will be added at some point, not a first priority since we felt those things are documented very well already and the subject matter (specially of using fpvods and focusing on using raw apm that is later converted to eapm) we focus'd on was not.
On March 14 2012 06:21 UncleVinny wrote:
Not sure if this is a typo, or just unclear: "I am a 17 year gamer living in upper New York." Should this be "17-year-old gamer", or have you played games for 17 years?
I'll correct that, Br3ezy happens to be 17 and I have played games for 17 years cuz I am ancient, but that was supposed to be from his perspective.
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I think this is just what i need. Especially since i have 8 hours a day at work where i can't do any thing but watch youtube videos (twitch and tl are blocked -_-). I started today. I definitely noticed things. I need to be more precise with my mouse! So inaccurate. Thank you so much for the post! probably the most helpful thing I've read in a while.
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I tested spamming apm in the early game and not spamming it on myself. When I spammed I felt really good and could control my units with real ease and do some amazing micro, multitask and maintain high apm. When I didn't spam apm I felt I was playing slow and as if I didn't do everything as fast as I need to, like playing without a warm up. It was a clear difference.
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Just want to put in a word, ForGG and HerO have nice mechanics, but hands down the most flawless mechanical player I have ever watched is Zenio. When you watch his stream, it is just inspiring the way he plays. I barely ever watch anyone other than protoss players stream but I watch Zenio all the time specifically because of how good his mechanics are.
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awesome read ! time to download xplit ^^
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Blazinghand
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On March 14 2012 12:07 CecilSunkure wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 11:56 Snoodles wrote:
Can someone post what screen recording software they use? I use FRAPS and Xsplit.
I use Xsplit, and I've used FLME with VHScreenCap. Both are excellent options imo, and making local records is easy and intuitive.
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I have to say that I've been stuck lately and this guide seems like a great stating point to really focus on improving. I'll be starting with looking for a more efficient hotkey setup and using this guide to build my mechanics!
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