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OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
February 07 2012 00:49 GMT
#341
That was awesome. I'm still amazed of the things the engine allows. I'm just a bit sad over the fact that the same engine limit some other things coming to micro.
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 00:51:35
February 07 2012 00:50 GMT
#342
On February 07 2012 08:15 freetgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 08:08 Ben... wrote:
On February 07 2012 07:17 xsnac wrote:
if this work on HIGH TEMPLAR FEEDBACK someone tell MC fast and protoss shall win a GSL CODE S SOON !!
I gotta try that, you could just scroll over their medivacs or infestors and get all of them super easy. Or even if you see a Terran army just hold feedback then scroll over an army with ghosts in it and be guaranteed to hit at least some of the ghosts, even if they're mixed in. Or even over the minimap since you can feedback from the minimap.


guess someone never played protoss and talks like he found out something.

this cheat is useless for any spell that protoss has, except may be creating hallucinations, where it isn't needed anyway.
I never tried it when I made the comment and never claimed to find out anything. I do play Protoss, and have mained for over a year after release. I was saying that if you could hypothetically do what I said it would make feedback good, but I never said it actually worked. No need to be a dick.
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SuperPro
Profile Joined February 2012
99 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 00:52:18
February 07 2012 00:51 GMT
#343
Can someone please explain how to do this without some sort of program?

Is it possible to do this with just sc2 itself rather than using some program?

Thanks
Killershade
Profile Joined October 2011
United States12 Posts
February 07 2012 00:58 GMT
#344
On February 07 2012 09:51 SuperPro wrote:
Can someone please explain how to do this without some sort of program?

Is it possible to do this with just sc2 itself rather than using some program?

Thanks


Simply put, the driver software that the manufacturer of your mouse can assign your scroll wheel to a "Macro" that you can assign to use the left or right mouse button when your scroll wheel sends input to your computer. It is not considered against TOS because it is not doing multiple actions on a single input.

Doing this method with mouse drivers and the programs that manufacturers make for them is no different than using something like X-Mouse for the same thing.

All programs that manipulate the input of hardware devices are considered "third party" and it does not matter what one you use as long as you are doing 1 action per 1 input.
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Willzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom774 Posts
February 07 2012 00:59 GMT
#345
On February 07 2012 09:04 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 08:30 DaemonX wrote:
Jesus guys, old news and more importantly:

http://www.youtube.com/psystarcraft#p/u/15/YI1aCBdGytk

This trick isn't any faster than shift-click done properly.

See above demo if you don't believe me, and watch through to 6 mins to see how this works even with feedback, transfuse and snipe.

The scroll click actually looks SLOWER.

This requires you to perform the action before you are there, the mousewheel lets you do it without having to move to a location. If you are playing terran, and are caught off guard when 8 ultras suddenly appear, you can select all of your ghosts and nearly instantly queue up snipes vs having to click on each and ever ultralisk 10 times.


That's assuming you have like 20+ ghosts in the first place, which is considerably more expensive than 8 ultras.

This technique is only really an issue when terran has mass ghosts, and quite frankly if you let them reach that point you are in so much trouble regardless. In the sorts of engagements that actually happen in real games it is not really any faster than simply spamming left click. Even with a decent number of ghosts selected I can click faster than they can fire.

And anyway if we are really talking late late game then with 20+ ghosts then terran has so many scans available that he always has warning and vision of any incoming army.
SuperPro
Profile Joined February 2012
99 Posts
February 07 2012 01:01 GMT
#346
On February 07 2012 09:58 Killershade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 09:51 SuperPro wrote:
Can someone please explain how to do this without some sort of program?

Is it possible to do this with just sc2 itself rather than using some program?

Thanks


Simply put, the driver software that the manufacturer of your mouse can assign your scroll wheel to a "Macro" that you can assign to use the left or right mouse button when your scroll wheel sends input to your computer. It is not considered against TOS because it is not doing multiple actions on a single input.

Doing this method with mouse drivers and the programs that manufacturers make for them is no different than using something like X-Mouse for the same thing.

All programs that manipulate the input of hardware devices are considered "third party" and it does not matter what one you use as long as you are doing 1 action per 1 input.


Okay, now I have a Razer Deathadder and it has drivers for things like this I believe, can you outline what exactly I'd need to do?

Like what keys within the driver would I have to reassign, and what keys in starcraft would I have to reassign?
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 01:03:49
February 07 2012 01:03 GMT
#347
This is sick, I'm wondering how one would apply it to things relating to macro-purposes aside from warp-ins.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8260 Posts
February 07 2012 01:04 GMT
#348
First time logitech has disappointed me with their drivers. I can't actually rebind the scroll to anything other than..scrolling. So to make it work I'd need that program which would never be allowed at lans. I guess as Toss there isn't much I could have used it for anyways, but would have been fun to try it out.
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
February 07 2012 01:05 GMT
#349
Is there a general sentiment on if this is allowed?

IMO, this is fine and everyone should do it.. but also.. MO doesnt mean shit
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Rorschach
Profile Joined May 2010
United States623 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 01:07:04
February 07 2012 01:06 GMT
#350
On February 07 2012 10:01 SuperPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 09:58 Killershade wrote:
On February 07 2012 09:51 SuperPro wrote:
Can someone please explain how to do this without some sort of program?

Is it possible to do this with just sc2 itself rather than using some program?

Thanks


Simply put, the driver software that the manufacturer of your mouse can assign your scroll wheel to a "Macro" that you can assign to use the left or right mouse button when your scroll wheel sends input to your computer. It is not considered against TOS because it is not doing multiple actions on a single input.

Doing this method with mouse drivers and the programs that manufacturers make for them is no different than using something like X-Mouse for the same thing.

All programs that manipulate the input of hardware devices are considered "third party" and it does not matter what one you use as long as you are doing 1 action per 1 input.


Okay, now I have a Razer Deathadder and it has drivers for things like this I believe, can you outline what exactly I'd need to do?

Like what keys within the driver would I have to reassign, and what keys in starcraft would I have to reassign?



Also have a Deathadder.
You don't need to change anything in the SC2 client.
Here is a screen of what you need to change under the Razer drivers UI.

Very simple:

http://i.imgur.com/E3Vu2.jpg

Change Values to "Click" or "Menu" depending on whether you want it bound to left or right click...
En Taro Adun, Executor!
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 01:13:58
February 07 2012 01:07 GMT
#351
Wow that 20.000 apm screenshot is... extreme.

Anyway is this working as intended? If not, then Blizzard will fix it. (keep it mind that viking flower / archon toilet were considered not working as intended)
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SuperPro
Profile Joined February 2012
99 Posts
February 07 2012 01:11 GMT
#352
On February 07 2012 10:06 Rorschach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 10:01 SuperPro wrote:
On February 07 2012 09:58 Killershade wrote:
On February 07 2012 09:51 SuperPro wrote:
Can someone please explain how to do this without some sort of program?

Is it possible to do this with just sc2 itself rather than using some program?

Thanks


Simply put, the driver software that the manufacturer of your mouse can assign your scroll wheel to a "Macro" that you can assign to use the left or right mouse button when your scroll wheel sends input to your computer. It is not considered against TOS because it is not doing multiple actions on a single input.

Doing this method with mouse drivers and the programs that manufacturers make for them is no different than using something like X-Mouse for the same thing.

All programs that manipulate the input of hardware devices are considered "third party" and it does not matter what one you use as long as you are doing 1 action per 1 input.


Okay, now I have a Razer Deathadder and it has drivers for things like this I believe, can you outline what exactly I'd need to do?

Like what keys within the driver would I have to reassign, and what keys in starcraft would I have to reassign?



Also have a Deathadder.
You don't need to change anything in the SC2 client.
Here is a screen of what you need to change under the Razer drivers UI.

Very simple:

http://i.imgur.com/E3Vu2.jpg

Change Values to "Click" or "Menu" depending on whether you want it bound to left or right click...

I'm sorry, but I do not understand completely. What do I change them to?
Would I simply change Scroll up or down to press the 'r' key? It seems like this would conflict with browsing the internet and doing other things. Is there a way to do it without having to switch profiles each time I play starcraft?

Thanks again

Rorschach
Profile Joined May 2010
United States623 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 01:16:26
February 07 2012 01:13 GMT
#353
On February 07 2012 10:11 SuperPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 10:06 Rorschach wrote:
On February 07 2012 10:01 SuperPro wrote:
On February 07 2012 09:58 Killershade wrote:
On February 07 2012 09:51 SuperPro wrote:
Can someone please explain how to do this without some sort of program?

Is it possible to do this with just sc2 itself rather than using some program?

Thanks


Simply put, the driver software that the manufacturer of your mouse can assign your scroll wheel to a "Macro" that you can assign to use the left or right mouse button when your scroll wheel sends input to your computer. It is not considered against TOS because it is not doing multiple actions on a single input.

Doing this method with mouse drivers and the programs that manufacturers make for them is no different than using something like X-Mouse for the same thing.

All programs that manipulate the input of hardware devices are considered "third party" and it does not matter what one you use as long as you are doing 1 action per 1 input.


Okay, now I have a Razer Deathadder and it has drivers for things like this I believe, can you outline what exactly I'd need to do?

Like what keys within the driver would I have to reassign, and what keys in starcraft would I have to reassign?



Also have a Deathadder.
You don't need to change anything in the SC2 client.
Here is a screen of what you need to change under the Razer drivers UI.

Very simple:

http://i.imgur.com/E3Vu2.jpg

Change Values to "Click" or "Menu" depending on whether you want it bound to left or right click...

I'm sorry, but I do not understand completely. What do I change them to?
Would I simply change Scroll up or down to press the 'r' key? It seems like this would conflict with browsing the internet and doing other things. Is there a way to do it without having to switch profiles each time I play starcraft?

Thanks again



Change scroll keys to "click" (you will see the options in the drop down menu)
You simply hold down "r" and scroll/click the units you want to snipe....

it sucks but you must switch profiles every time you game vs browse the net if you use scrolling in your web browser.
If someone finds away around this please post....
En Taro Adun, Executor!
HyunA
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania362 Posts
February 07 2012 01:26 GMT
#354
i did it and it doesn't work in sc2 =[ fffff~
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Snackysnacks
Profile Joined December 2010
United States411 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 01:30:25
February 07 2012 01:29 GMT
#355
On February 07 2012 10:07 Al Bundy wrote:
Wow that 20.000 apm screenshot is... extreme.

Anyway is this working as intended? If not, then Blizzard will fix it. (keep it mind that viking flower / archon toilet were considered not working as intended)

This has nothing to do with blizzard, ive done this on many fps(for trolling/funzies)
Back in cod4, i would take the .50 cal, take Bandolier and slight of hand (extra ammo/fast reloading)
The only thing different, though, the ingame settings allowed anyone to do this even without mouse driver software.
Theres honestly nothing to stop this UNLESS they put a cap on how fast you could click, then, it could interfear with pros..
Honestly, alot of ppl in FPS games think of it as hacking, but ITS IN THE GAME SETTINGS ITSELF TO DO SO
See.
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Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 01:41:08
February 07 2012 01:40 GMT
#356
hmm, this is fascinating

i think blizzard can't fix it without changing the UI so you need to hit the key each time you do the command

you're only rebinding one mouse button to another so i don't see how blizzard can detect this
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Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
February 07 2012 01:48 GMT
#357
On February 07 2012 08:13 Geiko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 08:08 Ben... wrote:
On February 07 2012 07:17 xsnac wrote:
if this work on HIGH TEMPLAR FEEDBACK someone tell MC fast and protoss shall win a GSL CODE S SOON !!
I gotta try that, you could just scroll over their medivacs or infestors and get all of them super easy. Or even if you see a Terran army just hold feedback then scroll over an army with ghosts in it and be guaranteed to hit at least some of the ghosts, even if they're mixed in. Or even over the minimap since you can feedback from the minimap.

This setting + unlocked scrollwheel gear on G9X = all infested terrans out in one tiny motion with your finger (On the G9 and other Logitechs you can unlock the scroll wheel with a button on the bottom so it spins freely and it actually spins for a really long time). It feels super unfair to do it.


Great idea, if you want to use 20 feedbacks on 1 medivac.


Doesn't it say that the target has no energy and simply does not perform the feedback if the unit no longer has energy?
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 01:57:49
February 07 2012 01:54 GMT
#358
On February 07 2012 09:59 Willzzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 09:04 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On February 07 2012 08:30 DaemonX wrote:
Jesus guys, old news and more importantly:

http://www.youtube.com/psystarcraft#p/u/15/YI1aCBdGytk

This trick isn't any faster than shift-click done properly.

See above demo if you don't believe me, and watch through to 6 mins to see how this works even with feedback, transfuse and snipe.

The scroll click actually looks SLOWER.

This requires you to perform the action before you are there, the mousewheel lets you do it without having to move to a location. If you are playing terran, and are caught off guard when 8 ultras suddenly appear, you can select all of your ghosts and nearly instantly queue up snipes vs having to click on each and ever ultralisk 10 times.


That's assuming you have like 20+ ghosts in the first place, which is considerably more expensive than 8 ultras.

This technique is only really an issue when terran has mass ghosts, and quite frankly if you let them reach that point you are in so much trouble regardless. In the sorts of engagements that actually happen in real games it is not really any faster than simply spamming left click. Even with a decent number of ghosts selected I can click faster than they can fire.

And anyway if we are really talking late late game then with 20+ ghosts then terran has so many scans available that he always has warning and vision of any incoming army.

11 ghosts with 150 energy can kill 6 ultralisks outright with just snipe (8 ultras if 200 energy). 2200/1100 vs 1800/1200

And if you can click 66 times in 4-5 seconds, I applaud you. For us humans, this mouse wheel trick works better for snap sniping instead of move command (dangerous in and of itself) -> queue and take 15+ seconds to queue snipes
crydee
Profile Joined October 2011
92 Posts
February 07 2012 01:57 GMT
#359
anyone able to do this with setpoint? I created a profile to detect when sc2.exe launch but the mouse wheel isn't rebinding to left click.
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
February 07 2012 02:02 GMT
#360
very cool find, but it doesn't work for storms because they don't stack
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