EPTDifferences between Platinum and Diamond? - Page 2
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BONE
United States176 Posts
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FiNTer
Finland153 Posts
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mhsMILKe
United States14 Posts
This is all my own experience, and many of the above answers are legitimate as well. | ||
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ContactKilla
United States194 Posts
I think the skill gap thats the closest is High Diamond - Mid Masters. I was top Diamond last season and am now Mid Masters and I cant feel the difference at all. | ||
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Nible
Sweden85 Posts
On January 07 2012 06:16 ContactKilla wrote: Theres a reason why Diamond is higher than Plat. Diamonds are just better. Plats seem like players that like the game, but aren't really improving in mechanics. They dont seem to take that extra effort to be a better player. They kind of just do the same thing and it works some games and doesnt work in others. I think the skill gap thats the closest is High Diamond - Mid Masters. I was top Diamond last season and am now Mid Masters and I cant feel the difference at all. As a Plat player, I actually got a bit offended by this. What do you mean we're not trying to improve? Do you mean that you have to jump from Gold to Diamond to be a player that wants to improve?  No matter how easy it is for some to get to Master league in like 200 games, there actually is people like myself that have needed more than 2000 just to get to Platinum, lol. Don't tell us that it's easy, don't imply it either as you did. | ||
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Grayboosh
United States68 Posts
For zerg.... - It's hard to never miss an inject, but that's what you have to work on. - Mini-map awareness, especially against terran drops. Watch the minimap more than your screen, one tip I've never tried is playing with your sound off. - Ling / Bling micro vs Zerg, whether you like to use blings or not, you have to know how to split drones, and send lings to detonate them. If you use them, you have to manually detonate them sometimes, or prevent them from attacking the bait. - Scouting vs Toss, because of their tendancy to FFE, the temptation to get caught up in a macro race is there. You have to keep tabs on them though because they can push out at any time. Be diligent in taking watch towers back and sending scouting overlords. Vs all races... be impervious to cheese. I think this is one of the biggest differences in getting into diamond. Plat players have set build orders that they're practicing, because they're still mastering execution. Diamond+ players are able to identify different builds by scouting and counter accordingly (except Idra, he sticks with his game plan or quits without a fight). I was bumped down from mid Diamond to Plat in season 5, and was surprised how easy it was because my opponents were either "good" at executing a specific build or good at macro, not both. I shot up to the top of the division and stayed there for a couple weeks till I was finally promoted to high diamond. I kinda miss it | ||
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Mesha
Bosnia-Herzegovina439 Posts
But it is not written in stone. Low master is sometimes like high platinum. Some of the top league players can't get promoted since boundaries in their head, they think like the players from next league are way better, while they are marginally better... | ||
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discobaas
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discobaas
225 Posts
On January 07 2012 06:16 ContactKilla wrote: Theres a reason why Diamond is higher than Plat. Diamonds are just better. Plats seem like players that like the game, but aren't really improving in mechanics. They dont seem to take that extra effort to be a better player. They kind of just do the same thing and it works some games and doesnt work in others. I think the skill gap thats the closest is High Diamond - Mid Masters. I was top Diamond last season and am now Mid Masters and I cant feel the difference at all. Well your thought on the skill gap is incorrect. Due to the Gaussian "skill" distribution, the difference in skill is the smallest in the middle, which would be around Gold. As you go up after Gold, it gets harder and harder to get further. | ||
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Apom
France656 Posts
silver -> gold : have a build order, at least up to taking your nat gold -> platinum : think about army composition, don't just build random stuff platinum -> diamond : expand past the natural, before being mined out | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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reneg
United States859 Posts
On January 07 2012 07:13 discobaas wrote: Well your thought on the skill gap is incorrect. Due to the Gaussian "skill" distribution, the difference in skill is the smallest in the middle, which would be around Gold. As you go up after Gold, it gets harder and harder to get further. No one said that the distribution was Gaussian, iirc. From what I've understood, there are no Deviations, and it's just chunks of percentages of players. I.e. bottom 20% (bronze) are worse than the 2nd worse 20% (Silver), and so on. And whether the skill gap between Gold and Plat is as big as Bronze and Silver, or Plat and Dia, or High Masters and GM is largely debatable. | ||
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Pesto
United States121 Posts
There is no way any answer to this question is going to help you improve. You need to just play more and watch your replays and figure out what specifically you are doing wrong and what your weaknesses are. You're smart enough to do that, eh? | ||
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Insomni7
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black3200
Canada74 Posts
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Ubenn
Canada114 Posts
On January 07 2012 05:04 zezamer wrote: diamond players are better in every way. WOW NO WAY? It's all about mechanics. Overall very league is the same it just that the league above just does it a little bit better. | ||
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stokes17
United States1411 Posts
On January 07 2012 05:34 SidewinderSC2 wrote: The difference between every league is primarily macro. Beyond that, game sense (attacking/defending), scouting and army control are the next most important things. yep this is basically it. Mechanics can carry you extremely extremely far. | ||
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diophan
United States1018 Posts
On January 07 2012 05:16 UmiNotsuki wrote: I think it really depends on the player, really. I know lots of people who had poor mechanics holding them from that promotion, some who had poor game sense, others with relatively fantastic macro and mechanics but frankly laughable strategies and builds... you're gonna have to analyze your own play to find out what you really need to work on. This. Diamond players are just better on average. It's really misguided to think diamond players have some universal thing they're better at. Just work on improving whatever you want to improve and your MMR will go up. Improve enough and you'll get promoted. | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
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mage36
415 Posts
Furthermore, since there are 3 races, it could be an understanding of a certain matchup that hold them back, as they simply have a poor winning percentage against this certain race while an excellent one against the other two. To conclude, it's just impossible what the reason actually is as it is different for each person. | ||
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