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Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
March 20 2011 12:26 GMT
#21
This is great! I am not too worried about the replays, mainly because I compared this to my list of timings and most of them are within +/- 5s, suggesting careful proper play by the OP.

I would like to see each timing broken down by the MUs you can realistically use it in. Having a little redundancy is worth having an easier way to process this information.

Cheers!
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caracarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden141 Posts
March 20 2011 13:49 GMT
#22
On March 19 2011 12:47 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 11:24 caracarn wrote:
This is a really helpful thing to have. But all this is not when the things are in your base. You can almost say that everything is 40 seconds later then this timings.


I'm pretty sure the timings are just for practice validation to make sure you're doing it as efficiently as you should be. Or at least that's what I would use them for.


Oh i thought this was a guide to have a little better knowledge what the opponent was doing. For instance if July would have had the timings for a 3 gate expo in his head, he would have known that something was up because the expo was 20 seconds late..
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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
March 20 2011 17:40 GMT
#23
On March 20 2011 22:49 caracarn wrote:
Oh i thought this was a guide to have a little better knowledge what the opponent was doing. For instance if July would have had the timings for a 3 gate expo in his head, he would have known that something was up because the expo was 20 seconds late..
It's a bit of both. As I mentioned before, there is a lot of variance in distance based on maps and spawn positions. I figured I'd leave it up to the player to know the travel distances on the maps, but maybe that could be another section..
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ma70
Profile Joined October 2010
253 Posts
March 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#24
Good thread. I totally forgot about my thread, but I think this one is way better and more organized.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
March 20 2011 23:28 GMT
#25
On March 20 2011 22:49 caracarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 12:47 Najda wrote:
On March 19 2011 11:24 caracarn wrote:
This is a really helpful thing to have. But all this is not when the things are in your base. You can almost say that everything is 40 seconds later then this timings.


I'm pretty sure the timings are just for practice validation to make sure you're doing it as efficiently as you should be. Or at least that's what I would use them for.


Oh i thought this was a guide to have a little better knowledge what the opponent was doing. For instance if July would have had the timings for a 3 gate expo in his head, he would have known that something was up because the expo was 20 seconds late..


That too, I didn't even think of that!
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
March 20 2011 23:48 GMT
#26
3 Gate 1 Robo with 4 zealots/1 stalker/1 zealot can be achieved with full saturation in main like 30 seconds earlier than 6:05.
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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 13:06:18
March 21 2011 13:04 GMT
#27
On March 21 2011 08:48 PJA wrote:
3 Gate 1 Robo with 4 zealots/1 stalker/1 zealot can be achieved with full saturation in main like 30 seconds earlier than 6:05.
What is the build order that allows this timing to be drastically different than what I achieved? Could you link or post a rep of this occurring?
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JeLLe04
Profile Joined March 2011
United States47 Posts
March 21 2011 13:06 GMT
#28
Cool post, thanks for the good info.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
March 23 2011 13:30 GMT
#29
OP has been updated with guidelines for submitting replays.
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FreezerJumps
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada653 Posts
March 23 2011 13:38 GMT
#30
Isn't this called Liquipedia?
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
March 23 2011 15:00 GMT
#31
On March 23 2011 22:38 FreezerJumps wrote:
Isn't this called Liquipedia?
You have a valid concern, and in an ideal world where LP had this information I would agree with your concerns. However, a good bit of this information is absent... and this thread is about best timings only, not the analysis of build orders.
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minimalistic
Profile Joined August 2010
Hungary157 Posts
March 24 2011 19:52 GMT
#32
Is there any chance of this list getting updated as soon as we evolve and getting used to 1.3 please?
"A baby Gracken dies every time you use Ghost + Mech" -unknown chat user
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
March 25 2011 11:52 GMT
#33
On March 25 2011 04:52 minimalistic wrote:
Is there any chance of this list getting updated as soon as we evolve and getting used to 1.3 please?
If I understand you correctly, are you asking when and if these timings will conform with patch 1.3? If that's the case, the only changes to times involve bunker and stim, which only covers 3 of these timings. Updates will happen periodically in order to keep up with the evolving landscape.
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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
March 30 2011 12:38 GMT
#34
Terran section has been updated with revised timings and added replays.
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Marzocchi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States58 Posts
March 30 2011 15:35 GMT
#35
This is a great guide! Thank you for compiling it. =) Is the information on Liquipedia current as of the new patch?
Volka
Profile Joined December 2010
Argentina412 Posts
March 30 2011 16:15 GMT
#36
Great work. Thanks!
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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
March 31 2011 14:19 GMT
#37
Protoss section has now been updated and revised. Replays added as well.
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Crackensan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States479 Posts
March 31 2011 14:25 GMT
#38
Great. Now I have to update my spreadsheet!

Thank youuuu! ♥ ♥
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Zaffy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom128 Posts
March 31 2011 16:42 GMT
#39
great thread, really useful
waffles
Koszmarny
Profile Joined October 2010
Poland13 Posts
March 31 2011 18:00 GMT
#40
This would make a great Liquipedia page.
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