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ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
November 01 2011 17:20 GMT
#8821
On November 02 2011 02:18 DadE wrote:
is there any more economic 4 WG rush out there or 3 WG pressure builds out there that if they fail you wont be as far behind? if so could somone please link me because i cant find anything. thanks in advance.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=202262
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Kroml
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey308 Posts
November 01 2011 19:05 GMT
#8822
Sorry guys, my simple question is not a strategy related question but I couldn't find any related thread to write, my question is;

Today I was watching WhiteRa's stream and he played an interesting game, I wanted to break down the build order, so I added him as friends and opened that match's info, then opened Build Order Tab, there was a button called "Add Bookmark", so I thought if I bookmark this match I could easily access again when I wanted to check this build order BUT, I couldn't find where to reach that bookmarked WhiteRa game anywhere, I'll appreciate if someone could help me, thx...
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
November 01 2011 19:17 GMT
#8823
On November 02 2011 04:05 Kroml. wrote:
Sorry guys, my simple question is not a strategy related question but I couldn't find any related thread to write, my question is;

Today I was watching WhiteRa's stream and he played an interesting game, I wanted to break down the build order, so I added him as friends and opened that match's info, then opened Build Order Tab, there was a button called "Add Bookmark", so I thought if I bookmark this match I could easily access again when I wanted to check this build order BUT, I couldn't find where to reach that bookmarked WhiteRa game anywhere, I'll appreciate if someone could help me, thx...


Well, if you know about how long ago he played that game, and what map it was, you could scroll down to it in his recently played matches section. Also, this forum has many knowledgeable White-Ra fans who could probably tell you the build order if you provided a description of it.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
November 01 2011 19:25 GMT
#8824
On November 02 2011 04:17 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 04:05 Kroml. wrote:
Sorry guys, my simple question is not a strategy related question but I couldn't find any related thread to write, my question is;

Today I was watching WhiteRa's stream and he played an interesting game, I wanted to break down the build order, so I added him as friends and opened that match's info, then opened Build Order Tab, there was a button called "Add Bookmark", so I thought if I bookmark this match I could easily access again when I wanted to check this build order BUT, I couldn't find where to reach that bookmarked WhiteRa game anywhere, I'll appreciate if someone could help me, thx...


Well, if you know about how long ago he played that game, and what map it was, you could scroll down to it in his recently played matches section. Also, this forum has many knowledgeable White-Ra fans who could probably tell you the build order if you provided a description of it.


And to answer the other (implicit) question, the "Add Bookmark" button adds the match's map to your list of bookmarks, not the match.
Kroml
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 19:28:49
November 01 2011 19:26 GMT
#8825
On November 02 2011 04:17 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 04:05 Kroml. wrote:
Sorry guys, my simple question is not a strategy related question but I couldn't find any related thread to write, my question is;

Today I was watching WhiteRa's stream and he played an interesting game, I wanted to break down the build order, so I added him as friends and opened that match's info, then opened Build Order Tab, there was a button called "Add Bookmark", so I thought if I bookmark this match I could easily access again when I wanted to check this build order BUT, I couldn't find where to reach that bookmarked WhiteRa game anywhere, I'll appreciate if someone could help me, thx...


Well, if you know about how long ago he played that game, and what map it was, you could scroll down to it in his recently played matches section. Also, this forum has many knowledgeable White-Ra fans who could probably tell you the build order if you provided a description of it.


no it was just an example, I am trying to find out how this match history bookmark system works, because even after I bookmarked a certain match, when I go to his match history, there is no star or any other pointer next to the game I've bookmarked.

On November 02 2011 04:25 Kambing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 04:17 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 02 2011 04:05 Kroml. wrote:
Sorry guys, my simple question is not a strategy related question but I couldn't find any related thread to write, my question is;

Today I was watching WhiteRa's stream and he played an interesting game, I wanted to break down the build order, so I added him as friends and opened that match's info, then opened Build Order Tab, there was a button called "Add Bookmark", so I thought if I bookmark this match I could easily access again when I wanted to check this build order BUT, I couldn't find where to reach that bookmarked WhiteRa game anywhere, I'll appreciate if someone could help me, thx...


Well, if you know about how long ago he played that game, and what map it was, you could scroll down to it in his recently played matches section. Also, this forum has many knowledgeable White-Ra fans who could probably tell you the build order if you provided a description of it.


And to answer the other (implicit) question, the "Add Bookmark" button adds the match's map to your list of bookmarks, not the match.



aaah shit, I thought I could access that match easily when I bookmark it , it seems it's only the map , thx for the info
Lazerlike42
Profile Joined July 2011
United States104 Posts
November 01 2011 23:26 GMT
#8826
Was reading the Liquidpedia article on the 1 rax gasless expand. At one point it says, "Keep in mind that as the opposing tech tree widens that all builds come back to similar production structure, i.e. 3 Barracks, 2 Factories and 1 Starport; add any of the three at random x3 for each mining base."

What exactly is it saying here? The way it reads to me would suggest each mining base can support 9 barracks, or 6 factories, or 3 starports, which is not correct, so I am sure I misunderstand it. What's the correct understanding of this statement?
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
November 01 2011 23:43 GMT
#8827
On November 02 2011 08:26 Lazerlike42 wrote:
Was reading the Liquidpedia article on the 1 rax gasless expand. At one point it says, "Keep in mind that as the opposing tech tree widens that all builds come back to similar production structure, i.e. 3 Barracks, 2 Factories and 1 Starport; add any of the three at random x3 for each mining base."

What exactly is it saying here? The way it reads to me would suggest each mining base can support 9 barracks, or 6 factories, or 3 starports, which is not correct, so I am sure I misunderstand it. What's the correct understanding of this statement?

I think it means you can add 3 production structures per mining base after your first two. i.e, on 3 bases you can support, according to this, 6 barracks 2 factories and 1 starport. On 4 bases, 7 barracks 3 factories 2 starports, etc.
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
YumYumGranola
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada346 Posts
November 01 2011 23:49 GMT
#8828
Sorry, not sure if this belongs here but I was hoping somebody could help. I was looking for an earlier thread where somebody generated a graph which tracked the pro's ELO ratings over time for both BW and SC2. Didn't have any luck on the search bar. Does anybody remember that thread and would be able to share a link? Thanks
eduardodelagarza
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico6 Posts
November 02 2011 00:03 GMT
#8829
In a situation of protss deadball vs a terran with marines marauders ghosts medivacs and vikings should I focus fire the vikings with my stalkers or focus ground units letting my collosus die?

i think that if there are not that many vikings I shluld focus them but if there are too many i shouldt but im not sure
Monsyphon
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada190 Posts
November 02 2011 00:16 GMT
#8830
How do you zerg players keep up with supply? do you guys have some sort of routine-habit for making overlords? so far ive been making an overlord everytime new larva comes out but i feel i make too many overlords wasting larva and minerals
Progamermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
United States79 Posts
November 02 2011 00:42 GMT
#8831
what does terran do vs mass zealots and high templars? is air really the only option?
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coriamon
Profile Joined August 2011
244 Posts
November 02 2011 02:51 GMT
#8832
On November 02 2011 09:42 Progamermatt wrote:
what does terran do vs mass zealots and high templars? is air really the only option?

Ghosts, marines, marauders and micro. I would suggest medivacs though.
envisioN .
Profile Joined February 2011
United States552 Posts
November 02 2011 03:46 GMT
#8833
On November 02 2011 09:42 Progamermatt wrote:
what does terran do vs mass zealots and high templars? is air really the only option?

As stated above, Ghosts and MMM should beat this with good micro. Be sure to not build too many ghosts because they are extremely expensive and don't do much in a straight up battle after you have used all your EMPs. Try to have just enough ghosts to take out all the energy from the HTs.
"Good works do not make a good man, but a good man does good works" -Martin Luther ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
November 02 2011 10:10 GMT
#8834
On November 02 2011 12:46 envisioN . wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 09:42 Progamermatt wrote:
what does terran do vs mass zealots and high templars? is air really the only option?

As stated above, Ghosts and MMM should beat this with good micro. Be sure to not build too many ghosts because they are extremely expensive and don't do much in a straight up battle after you have used all your EMPs. Try to have just enough ghosts to take out all the energy from the HTs.


To add to this, don't be afraid to go more marine heavy once you start getting ghosts, it seems counter-intuitive but if you can effectively spread your marines and emp his high templar then you can spend the excess gas on faster upgrades which exploits and inherent weakness in zealot/archon which is the unfavourable armor/shield split. The protoss wants to be getting armor upgrades so his zealots survive the high fire rate of stimmed marines, but for each +1 you go up in weapons and armor respectively, either his archons start becoming less effective, or if he gets +shields, his zealots get their shields emp'd away.

Despite feedback, drops also work very well as you can force battles to happen in small numbers lessening the impact of storm, every storm and high templar you kill while only losing a small number of marines is worth it and zealots tend to have a hard time deflecting the drops.
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 10:43:56
November 02 2011 10:22 GMT
#8835
This might be a dumb question as I'm posting this out of frustration.

What unit composition should you aim for when facing maxed Brood Lord, Infestor, Roach PvZ?

Watching pros I go Blink Stalker, Immortal, High Templar (Archon), and get warp prism to harass expos and try not to engage the zerg's "deathball". Basically abuse their immobility. I use that time to try and get up mass voids but that's hasn't worked out all that well (infestors do pretty well against them and I just can't micro (split voids effectively) so many things in the 200/200 stages.

It feels like I really need to stall for a really long time and just be extremely cost inefficient which is the opposite of how pvz works in every stage of the game before they get their deathball up. I guess a huge difference would be getting a mothership but I thought I'd post here on TL before messing around with that. Thoughts?

Thanks, Mid-Masters Random player.

edit: realized this is probably better suited for the protoss help me thread, my bad
matrius
Profile Joined February 2011
100 Posts
November 02 2011 15:04 GMT
#8836
Simple zealot question: if a zealot has 10 hp left, I'm thinking that it would be worth killing him off or throwing him away for scouting/harrassment because instead of having 150 health, he only has 60 (counting shields) and taking up 2 supply for a unit that has 60 health seems dumb. Ya or nay?
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2592 Posts
November 02 2011 15:10 GMT
#8837
On November 03 2011 00:04 matrius wrote:
Simple zealot question: if a zealot has 10 hp left, I'm thinking that it would be worth killing him off or throwing him away for scouting/harrassment because instead of having 150 health, he only has 60 (counting shields) and taking up 2 supply for a unit that has 60 health seems dumb. Ya or nay?

There are situations where that would provide a (tiny, tiny) advantage, but it's probably not worth the trouble unless you're playing at an extremely high level where hair-thin advantages are likely to make a difference. The only time I would consider this is if I were planning to destroy Zealots to free up supply; if I were doing it anyway I would certainly want to kill off weaker Zealots first.
The frumious Bandersnatch
MeWomega
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands9 Posts
November 02 2011 15:52 GMT
#8838
I just wanna know if its true that people in low leaque on europe are stronger then other places cause i play on EU and they are pretty good.
I play starcraft for fun now that im still 14 :P
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2592 Posts
November 02 2011 16:03 GMT
#8839
On November 03 2011 00:52 MeWomega wrote:
I just wanna know if its true that people in low leaque on europe are stronger then other places cause i play on EU and they are pretty good.

There are various definitions of "pretty good", but low-league players on EU don't fit most of them. You can get into diamond on any ladder just by having decent fundamentals and knowing how to respond to common cheeses.
The frumious Bandersnatch
MeWomega
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands9 Posts
November 02 2011 16:11 GMT
#8840
Hey all id like to have someone that can help me a little with my zerg play. Im a silver player on the 1v1 ladder on EU.
My other leaques are all gold. Plz respond if u can help me.
I play starcraft for fun now that im still 14 :P
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