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cleecks
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands109 Posts
October 30 2011 15:46 GMT
#8781
On October 31 2011 00:44 BlueBoxSC wrote:
I was going to answer a question before posting my own, but it seems that you all already jumped on that. D:

My question is pretty simple:

Which maps, if any, in the current map pool, have close positions blocked?

I think I know that Metalopolis and Shakuras do, but is there anything else?

Shattered temple as well
saaaa
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany419 Posts
October 30 2011 16:13 GMT
#8782
On October 29 2011 19:37 saaaa wrote:
I'm searching for matches of the 2 Fac Double Reactor Hellion Build like the Build Mvp did at Blizzcon to improve my own build order and transition.

i know the following matches:

Mvp vs. Nestea GSL October
Mvp vs. Toodming Blizzcon
MMA vs. Sleep IPL Season


Does anyone know other matches? I hope you guys can help me.

Thanks


nobody knows additional matches?
phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
October 30 2011 17:45 GMT
#8783
On October 31 2011 01:13 saaaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 19:37 saaaa wrote:
I'm searching for matches of the 2 Fac Double Reactor Hellion Build like the Build Mvp did at Blizzcon to improve my own build order and transition.

i know the following matches:

Mvp vs. Nestea GSL October
Mvp vs. Toodming Blizzcon
MMA vs. Sleep IPL Season


Does anyone know other matches? I hope you guys can help me.

Thanks


nobody knows additional matches?

nope, it's a fairly new build
vahgar.r24
Profile Joined October 2010
India465 Posts
October 30 2011 17:55 GMT
#8784
On October 30 2011 20:15 Migge wrote:
How I can beat blueflame hellion, marine, marauder, tank combo as zerg? its little bit early push so I cant have broods that fast. I have been lost to this combo many times.


I have a similar problem, I know helions are coming out and ive seen pros manage to hold off with just queen and spines. I wanted to BBust him but his helions just owned me.


TLDR -.is it necessary to get roaches to hold off helions


http://drop.sc/50735
Somethings are just worth fighting for
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
October 30 2011 18:21 GMT
#8785
On October 31 2011 00:44 BlueBoxSC wrote:
I was going to answer a question before posting my own, but it seems that you all already jumped on that. D:

My question is pretty simple:

Which maps, if any, in the current map pool, have close positions blocked?

I think I know that Metalopolis and Shakuras do, but is there anything else?


Shattered Temple
b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
October 30 2011 19:00 GMT
#8786
Watching Nestea vs Mvp, at 7 mins in Nestea only has 3 queens, no lings and 1 spine crawler. What if Mvp suddenly rushes with him with a large squad? I'm having problems handling those who go all in early on.

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/admin/a_replays.php?dl=51912
envisioN .
Profile Joined February 2011
United States552 Posts
October 30 2011 20:09 GMT
#8787
On October 31 2011 04:00 b0rt_ wrote:
Watching Nestea vs Mvp, at 7 mins in Nestea only has 3 queens, no lings and 1 spine crawler. What if Mvp suddenly rushes with him with a large squad? I'm having problems handling those who go all in early on.

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/admin/a_replays.php?dl=51912

It is completely scouting. Without watching the replay I would say that Nestea scouted something that told him there wasn't a big marine push coming any time soon, so he didn't make lings or spine crawlers. Some things that would cause this would be a CC first build or double gas.
"Good works do not make a good man, but a good man does good works" -Martin Luther ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Olsson
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden931 Posts
October 30 2011 22:15 GMT
#8788
Are there any websites where I can see what I'm ranked within the entire region? I know sc2ranks is one but it doesn't work well as it says a bronze leaguer that hasnt played any games Season 4 is ranked top 1 etc.
Naniwa <3
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8257 Posts
October 30 2011 22:35 GMT
#8789
On October 31 2011 07:15 Olsson wrote:
Are there any websites where I can see what I'm ranked within the entire region? I know sc2ranks is one but it doesn't work well as it says a bronze leaguer that hasnt played any games Season 4 is ranked top 1 etc.


Yeah, something wonky has happened to sc2ranks since season 4. Will probably be fixed soon. If you click on your name, you'll be able to see how you're ranked in your region an global..but again, it might be unreliable considering point 1.

There is no other site to my knowledge.
Blist
Profile Joined March 2011
13 Posts
October 30 2011 22:52 GMT
#8790
How do you do the hellion marauder opening? Is it just a continuation of the hellion expand?
Logarythm
Profile Joined November 2010
United States264 Posts
October 30 2011 22:53 GMT
#8791
How many Sentries do I want to have?
Making bad decisions.
envisioN .
Profile Joined February 2011
United States552 Posts
October 31 2011 02:27 GMT
#8792
On October 31 2011 07:53 Logarythm wrote:
How many Sentries do I want to have?

This is quite a vague question. If you are 3 gate expanding, then you want to have up to 6 or 7 sentries to be sure that you are safe. In general, having more than ~10 sentries isn't a good idea because it is very likely that you won't use all of the energy on those sentries and the heavy gas investment (100 per sentry) is better used towards something else.
"Good works do not make a good man, but a good man does good works" -Martin Luther ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
BioTech
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia264 Posts
October 31 2011 03:43 GMT
#8793
Where is the best place to suggest UI improvements to b.net or sc2?
I actually played the original WarCraft - Orcs v Humans back in 1995!
CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
October 31 2011 04:11 GMT
#8794
On October 31 2011 12:43 BioTech wrote:
Where is the best place to suggest UI improvements to b.net or sc2?


And have the game designers take note of your suggestion? Probably find out who designs the UI, then hand-deliver a piece of mail to their front door. Otherwise, post on b.net and be ignored like the other 99%.
Micro your Macro
JabbaDaButt
Profile Joined December 2010
United States77 Posts
October 31 2011 05:33 GMT
#8795
On October 31 2011 02:55 vahgar.r24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 20:15 Migge wrote:
How I can beat blueflame hellion, marine, marauder, tank combo as zerg? its little bit early push so I cant have broods that fast. I have been lost to this combo many times.


I have a similar problem, I know helions are coming out and ive seen pros manage to hold off with just queen and spines. I wanted to BBust him but his helions just owned me.


TLDR -.is it necessary to get roaches to hold off helions


http://drop.sc/50735


Right now, hellion expand is pretty popular, and unlike the pros, most people on ladder are looking to kill drones, not just get map control. *Most* of the pro games that I've seen, a slowly growing group of hellions (by that, I mean with no more than 1 reactored factory pumping them out) merely sit outside of the creep, stopping creep spread, and taking map control so that the terran can expand. Most pros are careful to not just run in there, with the sole intention of killing as many drones as possible, unless you are MKP and went 4 reactored factories.

Unfortunately, that's not the case on the ladder (at least in my experience). They get blue flames and your drones are in grave peril because they don't care so much about map control. When you know that hellions are coming, throw up 1-2 spines at the entrance of your mineral line and one at the front of the base. Make the entrance of your ramp to your main narrower by placing an evo there and blocking off with your queen, so that you at least know that the drones in your main is safe. Send lings only to block his entry if he gets too aggressive or you know you have an overwhelming force of lings because he stopped hellion production.

But if you are looking to be aggressive, you'll need roaches. baneling busts wont work unless he has absolutely shitty control
"Marines, the counter to Banelings." -IdrA
vahgar.r24
Profile Joined October 2010
India465 Posts
October 31 2011 06:38 GMT
#8796
On October 31 2011 14:33 JabbaDaButt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 02:55 vahgar.r24 wrote:
On October 30 2011 20:15 Migge wrote:
How I can beat blueflame hellion, marine, marauder, tank combo as zerg? its little bit early push so I cant have broods that fast. I have been lost to this combo many times.


+ Show Spoiler +
I have a similar problem, I know helions are coming out and ive seen pros manage to hold off with just queen and spines. I wanted to BBust him but his helions just owned me.


TLDR -.is it necessary to get roaches to hold off helions


http://drop.sc/50735


Right now, hellion expand is pretty popular, and unlike the pros, most people on ladder are looking to kill drones, not just get map control. *Most* of the pro games that I've seen, a slowly growing group of hellions (by that, I mean with no more than 1 reactored factory pumping them out) merely sit outside of the creep, stopping creep spread, and taking map control so that the terran can expand. Most pros are careful to not just run in there, with the sole intention of killing as many drones as possible, unless you are MKP and went 4 reactored factories.

Unfortunately, that's not the case on the ladder (at least in my experience). They get blue flames and your drones are in grave peril because they don't care so much about map control. When you know that hellions are coming, throw up 1-2 spines at the entrance of your mineral line and one at the front of the base. Make the entrance of your ramp to your main narrower by placing an evo there and blocking off with your queen, so that you at least know that the drones in your main is safe. Send lings only to block his entry if he gets too aggressive or you know you have an overwhelming force of lings because he stopped hellion production.

But if you are looking to be aggressive, you'll need roaches. baneling busts wont work unless he has absolutely shitty control


Thanks , I just figured that if I start going roaches , the terran is waiting for that tech switch so that he can just get marauders and kill me outright.
Somethings are just worth fighting for
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
October 31 2011 18:18 GMT
#8797
PvZ, how to deal with constant 2-3 base roach max/remax/remax?

PvT, how to deal with 180/200 (suicided SCV's) army of marauder/medivac/viking/ghost?
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
yaletown
Profile Joined October 2011
Korea (South)110 Posts
October 31 2011 18:41 GMT
#8798
Can I change the game settings in Korea from Korean to English? and How?
you're only as good as your last game
Sammuroth
Profile Joined October 2011
5 Posts
October 31 2011 19:44 GMT
#8799
not sure if simple question but do you guys have any threads on your forums that deal specifically with team multiplayer strategy?
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
October 31 2011 19:48 GMT
#8800
On November 01 2011 04:44 Sammuroth wrote:
not sure if simple question but do you guys have any threads on your forums that deal specifically with team multiplayer strategy?

there is a small 2s section here
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
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