I've seen these kinds of marine cheese builds.
Usually 1 rax fe then 5 rax.
You get so many marines off 2 mules it's insane.
It's like terran can mass marines faster than zerg can mass zerglings.
Marine rush keke :\

Kinmaul

United States104 Posts

July 18 2010 08:51 GMT

#22

On July 18 2010 17:40 TriniMasta[wD] wrote:
I actually have a quite easy time dealing with marines =O
2 Gate > Expo > Robo Would be nice

Going 2 gate into FE vs a 5 rax push is exactly what the terran player would want you to do. There's no way you will be able to hold the expansion if they are competent.

mtvacuum

United States979 Posts

July 18 2010 08:57 GMT

#23

i've been only using a 6 rax marine build against protoss and it's been working really well. most toss don't expect it and by the time they get an observer in your base you're already on your way pushing their base. if they go any fast expand/stargate/immortal build you instawin. they usually have 1 or 2 forcefields ready but you just wait it out. i'm usually able to focus down the robo facility before the colossus gets out. if they have a nice wall setup and a colossus out already then just camp outside their nat, get gas, expand, and transition to mmm.

Cheerio

Ukraine3178 Posts

July 18 2010 09:16 GMT

#24

I was playing once vs such a build. It was much harder than I expected and the other guy was a noob.

Phlatline

Croatia176 Posts

July 18 2010 09:30 GMT

#25

I use this sometimes and it does work. Ofc it isn't fullproof but a lot of strats aren't. This will bring you a lot of wins. It's not that fun to play tho IMO.

Sotigbulle

Sweden3 Posts

July 18 2010 10:22 GMT

#26

I have tried this build twice in midd plat and it worked both times (against a baneling bust the second time)

Ai.Cola

Germany236 Posts

July 18 2010 11:49 GMT

#27

obvious, troll is obvious (I really hope so)

This is the shittiest build I have ever seen, cant imagine any good players losing to this.

#1 Diamond doesnt mean anything btw, just post your stats and points.

At Maximum, this works for a cheese from time to time, but not even against semi good players.

PS: I play on europe, although US seems weaker I highly doubt you guys are that hardroce fai0rs :/

DiTH

Greece116 Posts

July 18 2010 11:55 GMT

#28

Im pretty confident that any stalkers harass can beat this strategy.But replays would be nice to see exactly what you mean.

Ofc i harass always with stalkers when my probe doesnt see marauders at choke.

[RB]Black

United States55 Posts

July 18 2010 12:04 GMT

#29

why not throw up a fe and then drop a ton of rax. that will make it viable for a standard play not an all in.

EnderCN

United States499 Posts

July 18 2010 12:06 GMT

#30

One of my friends tried Terran this patch for the first time and he said he easily got into platinum just building marines and when he shifted to marines+ a couple quick tanks he got into diamond which is higher then he ever got as protoss.

I'm sure this fails at the higher levels of play but it is certainly viable at lower levels. Marines are probably the strongest unit in the game by cost unless you have splash damage so they can be a pain to deal with if you don't scout them. Tanks are probably the strongest unit in the game period and adding them after the initial attack is easy enough.

It is pretty easy to get to diamond with Terran no matter your strat to be honest, I think they still need some balancing.

RandomBS

United States130 Posts

July 18 2010 14:29 GMT

#31

Sorry but this build is awful, i'd like to see some replays. One sentry plus a few zealots GGs this at the P ramp. There is no real timing window to get the critical mass of marines without him having sentries and stalkers. 8-9 marines isn't enough to bust up a protoss ramp with 3 zealots and a sentry on it.

TheOGBlitzKrieg

United States346 Posts

July 18 2010 15:00 GMT

#32

i've been playing with fast rines myself and find this build kinda interesting... so if you play vs terran they don't have a siege tank by the time the rines get to his base? do you push out right after the first group of rines build from all raxes and keep reinforcing? perhaps bring an SCV along for a bunker if you do end up breaching his base? just wondering because i want to play with some new builds to add to my collection of builds... usually i just got 2 rax tech lab grab quick stim and combat shield and then push about the time their complete but this may be much more effective... i'll have to check it out

Zergneedsfood

United States10671 Posts

July 18 2010 15:20 GMT

#33

If Terran builds a bunker at the front and puts four reapers...you're sort of screwed man.

roemy

Germany432 Posts

July 18 2010 15:23 GMT

#34

i believe the goat show has been calling this "megarax" for months now...
it works (way too) often and is probably the only thing to deny void rays.

some variations immediately move their CC to a gold expo (metalopolis) while the opponent keeps scouting in a circle

FuRong

New Zealand3089 Posts

July 18 2010 16:41 GMT

#35

I played a guy who used this build today. I didn't see it coming because he only put the rax up after killing my scout, but it wasn't too hard to deal with.

I raped his first push with tanks and then pushed back, but I didn't realise how many rax he had and ended up losing because he sent Marauders out his backdoor and I screwed up defending my main while sieging his main entrance (!&#% you Blistering Sands).

I think people don't like this idea because the last thing most people on Bnet need right now is another retarded all-in build order. On the other hand, some kind of all-in is usually preferable to playing a legitimate 50 min TvT, so to each his own...

Darpa

Canada4413 Posts

July 18 2010 17:10 GMT

#36

I just tried this 1 base all in rines, and added a few SCVs for bunker pushes, and I won 8 out of 9 games, the time i got beat was because the protoss player last long enough to get blink out and blink abused my base and I couldnt hold him. He microed my rines really well also. With the bunkers (for players who dont clog their choke) I was able to smash 8 games in a row, if it ever go past the early game, it was so easy to expand, and then I would just get a few tanks out and it was over.

Backpeddle

Denmark33 Posts

July 18 2010 18:00 GMT

#37

Gotta be some reeeeeaaallly bad players ur against then in ur diamond league man.. i'm sorry. But waiting till 700+ minerals, so build raxes, and while that, you don't have any units, a drone could kill u

Guilloteen

United States128 Posts

July 18 2010 20:46 GMT

#38

LOL I was rank 27 plat, when i saw this thread and i used this mass marine thing and it got me to rank 19 in no time, then got me promoted to diamond ahahah

Wrist

Netherlands35 Posts

July 18 2010 21:50 GMT

#39

Okay so now everyone is doing it, but still no replays?

Markwerf

Netherlands3728 Posts

July 18 2010 22:39 GMT

#40

Just wanted to point at that it's nonsense it's faster to save up money for your raxes and then put down 5 at one time. Making them as you go is better simply because you get more rax time you could get the same number of marines while using a rax less then for example. Getting downtime on scv's would just be poor macro.