ahh nice guide, should help my zvt a lot lol. and as a new player this makes tvz seem ridic unfair.. terran have so many good unit combinations to counter zerg users.. sc2 makes no sense to me -_-

Bloodyrock

Ireland150 Posts

May 01 2010 20:20 GMT

#42

thank you so much for the guide

blackodd

Sweden451 Posts

May 02 2010 06:43 GMT

#43

On May 02 2010 04:27 Mobius wrote:
ahh nice guide, should help my zvt a lot lol. and as a new player this makes tvz seem ridic unfair.. terran have so many good unit combinations to counter zerg users.. sc2 makes no sense to me -_-

Haha, same

But remember that it is a terran pov guide.. a zerg pov guide would make you more positive to the idea of beating any terran build

wonksaggin

United States73 Posts

May 02 2010 08:06 GMT

#44

thanks for the thread.

Moonquake

United States36 Posts

May 02 2010 08:50 GMT

#45

Great work!

nukkuj

Finland403 Posts

May 02 2010 09:19 GMT

#46

Thanks for the guide!

Fizban140

Korea (South)129 Posts

May 03 2010 03:11 GMT

#47

The 3 rax build doesnt seem to work at all for me, is it still valid?

Camlito

Australia4040 Posts

May 03 2010 03:14 GMT

#48

Thankyou for a little bit more insight, i hate TvZ T_T

ryseungoo

Canada91 Posts

May 03 2010 04:23 GMT

#49

...and I hate ZvT T^T. I always feel like whatever I'm doing is transparent to the T player whereas I'm fighting blind because of their wall-in.

Edit: I forgot to add that this is a really useful guide and I hope someone does this for all MUs.

a176

Canada6688 Posts

May 03 2010 04:26 GMT

#50

Useful for zerg players also?

Yuma

United States51 Posts

May 03 2010 05:48 GMT

#51

STICKY THIS!

T3tra

United States406 Posts

May 03 2010 06:46 GMT

#52

Awesome post, definitely helped with my TvZ.

Thanks, BlasiuS :>

baeracaed

United States604 Posts

May 03 2010 10:46 GMT

#53

Nice post man, thanks for this. I plan on getting more Terran play in before beta ends and this will be helpful after getting used to Zerg for sure.

Shaithis

United States383 Posts

May 03 2010 16:52 GMT

#54

Nice thread. Quick addition to the Terran Openings section:

Fast / Mass Ravens - similar build order as fast banshees, except that you make a 2nd rax in lieu of a starport (Each base can constantly produce ravens from one starport with some gas left over for upgrades).

Objective is to constantly harass with auto-turrets, upgrading their armor and range at the eBay, while securing an island expansion or PF + bunkered natural and continuing to mass ravens + marines. Auto-turrets are surprisingly durable vs Zerg, and can be used to block off wide stretches of space.

If the Zerg starts making roaches, it's simple to mix in banshees and RBGs from already existing production facilities.

The perfect map for this opening is Desert Oasis, however it may also work on Incineration Zone and Scrap Station.

Fruscainte

4596 Posts

May 03 2010 19:33 GMT

#55

As a Zerg, I love threads like these. It helps me know how my opponents are going to attempt to counter to me when I know they've scouted me and I can react accordingly. So it's a win/win for all!

3xist

United Kingdom11 Posts

May 03 2010 19:42 GMT

#56

Good tips.

Thank you good sir.

Shade692003

Canada702 Posts

May 03 2010 19:50 GMT

#57

About the hellion build, alot of zerg players will try to baneling bust it. What I often do when i do this build is to add 2 marauders into my army while my factory is being built. I then lift the factory into the barrack's techlab and research ignite asap while pumping hellions. I place those 2 marauder right in front of my wallin, at the top of the ramp in hold position. This force the bust to be soaked on the marauders, while the marines are trigger happy safely behind the wallin.

Kutsuki

United States29 Posts

May 03 2010 23:59 GMT

#58

What do you guys recommend against Sunken Colonies? For example, whether the Z decides to FE or 1 base, they may make 3 Sunken Colonies and won't push you until you engage the sunken colonies?

I find myself in a situation where I have to fight sunken colonies and many zerglings, they get the surround or i lose units a lot faster when I have to deal with them. A semi solution I found was simply, expand and try to contain them while teching up. Any thoughts welcomed!

t3hw0lf

United States45 Posts

May 04 2010 00:25 GMT

#59

It is a very interesting topic, but none of the strategies include bunkers. I'm not talking bunker rush, but just simple bunkers. Almost any cheese ling/s-ling/b-ling die to bunkers and they are cheap and have 3x more health than depos. You can choose to FE against almost any zerg if you add 2-3 bunkers and have sub-par micro.

My favorite build is not mentioned. I play ghosts/hellions and I win ALL of my TvZ games because ghosts are a bit OP to zerg. I think i've seen a few threats about this opening.

Tkx,

-tw