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Gr33ned
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada22 Posts
May 13 2010 22:19 GMT
#101
this is aweesomeeee!
thanks
Talic_Zealot
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
688 Posts
May 13 2010 22:49 GMT
#102
Beautiful post! Even though i just switched from random to zerg, with future plans of P being my main race this article is still very interesting and informative. Good job!
There are three types of people in the universe: those who can count, and those who cant.
iamrawr
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada8 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-14 02:16:39
May 14 2010 02:16 GMT
#103
awesome post, it's very educational. You should add that the depots revealing the rest of your base are for countering/seeing nyduses in TvZ gameflow
har
damon2400
Profile Joined April 2009
United States172 Posts
May 14 2010 08:36 GMT
#104
"I really don't see the benefit of adding tanks to your MMM army when you could add Thors to your MMM army. "

I really can't disagree with this more. Tanks and thors serve entirely different purposes and I can think of a dozen situations where thors would not serve the same purpose as your tanks.

Running MMM without tanks in a tvz match-up really isn't a good idea versus an opponent going baneling hydra etc.
damon2400
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United States172 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-14 08:39:16
May 14 2010 08:38 GMT
#105
On May 12 2010 06:12 BlasiuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2010 06:05 Logo wrote:
Mass ravens aren't viable anymore I think, due to NP affecting air units now.


I don' t think this is true. Raven's have 3 range on their PDD and the PDD has a range of 8. That would mean a raven can be up to 11 units away from the enemy and drop the PDD in battle and have it still affect the enemy. Infestor's 9 range on NP shouldn't be enough to hit the raven. You just have to be more protective of the raven now. As for harassing, the early ravens come out faster than infestors with NP since NP is researched. The infestors also need the 100 energy compared to 50 before meaning they will have to have been out for a while as well.


As far as I'm aware, massing ravens just for PDD isn't a very viable strategy. But if you can provide a solid BO and at least 3 plat level replays (or some replays of top players using it) I'll add it to the guide.


qxc just won a bo5 using a mass raven strat vs a zerg in at least one of the games. The ravens literally won the games by themselves completely turning the game around.

Replays will be up here tomorrow: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117793

edit: sorry for double post but they contain separate ideas so it should be ok.
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