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Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
October 12 2010 17:00 GMT
#61
One problem with this is that most T and P players just go sit in a corner in some MU's. Like those 3 SVC vs 5 Drones, they just go to the corner and surround the marine with svc's. So it's a stalemate.
abraXas
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany13 Posts
October 12 2010 22:52 GMT
#62
there are so many %&!s playing this map completly not microing.. they just go and hug the wall or position and then wait for enemy approach. can take minutes if both wont attack.
also there are some stalemate situations, like only left viking vs tanks where both players wont draw or surrender.

would be nice if after 2 minutes the game would just measure the winner out of army value or something.

one bug i think: in 5vikings 1 banshe mirror matchup, it often happens to me that last vikings take each other out and only banshees are left. in this case one of the players just wins and it doesnt seem to be the one whos viking survived longer.

also many terran matchups seem really really hard if the enemy just instantly attacks leaving terran with little space to kite and micro. examples helion marauder vs lings roaches (both matchups), helion thor vs lings roaches, warpgate + coloss vs marines marauder, warpgate 2coloss vs vikings marines, marauder.
maybe we should get 3 secs to hotkey stuff before the round starts.
palanq
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States761 Posts
October 19 2010 00:25 GMT
#63
this map is lots of fun, though I wish the code didnt bug out so much on US server and that some people actually played it =p
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Chronoboosted
Profile Joined October 2010
United States59 Posts
October 19 2010 08:05 GMT
#64
On October 07 2010 13:26 Kraz.Del wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2010 13:21 Techno wrote:
People don't really join many custom games other than "tug of war" and "defense" games. There has to be some sort of dota clone on the way


There already is one. Sotis.

Yeah, I've played this and it's nowhere near as good as Dota. I give the creators credit for making the map in such a short time though.
...then the drone turns to his friend and says, "That's no nydus canal. That's my wife!"
Whalecore
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway1111 Posts
May 22 2011 13:59 GMT
#65
This map is awesome, only thing I dislike is when I spawn with 1 stalker vs 8(?) lings ^^ This matchup would be winnable for the zerg even with 2 stalkers I think.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2011 18:24 GMT
#66
Question: Was that really worth a 7 month bump?

I know TLO is playing it a lot today, but still :/

Great map tho for sure.
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zende
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden234 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 19:26:37
May 22 2011 19:26 GMT
#67
On May 23 2011 03:24 iGrok wrote:
Question: Was that really worth a 7 month bump?

I know TLO is playing it a lot today, but still :/

Great map tho for sure.


You would rather see him make a new topic to tell everyone his opinion?
TheBoogeyMan
Profile Joined May 2010
United States17 Posts
May 23 2011 01:37 GMT
#68
How can I find this custom game? I want to play it but I don't have an EU account, just a US one.
tkRage
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
225 Posts
May 23 2011 03:22 GMT
#69
We need the updated version of this map, it's so unbelievably broken...
Dimenus
Profile Joined August 2010
United States157 Posts
May 23 2011 20:44 GMT
#70
On May 23 2011 12:22 tkRage wrote:
We need the updated version of this map, it's so unbelievably broken...



I google'd around to see if i could find the updated version, but to no avail
When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? - John Maynard Keynes
Sek-Kuar
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic593 Posts
May 26 2011 12:44 GMT
#71
On May 22 2011 22:59 Whalecore wrote:
This map is awesome, only thing I dislike is when I spawn with 1 stalker vs 8(?) lings ^^ This matchup would be winnable for the zerg even with 2 stalkers I think.


Sure you do, because in every else match Protoss just spawn with so many units that they just a-move and watch enemy micro crap out of him...

The most micro intensive P match is 1 phoenix vs 3 mutas, then need ~30 click there, in most other ~5 click is more than enuf.


I wonder, is there any channel for this? On EU, every day around ~16:00 cet it takes just few mins to get 14 players to game, there is a lot people plaing it, but other than that you wont find anyone... Id love to see that (for banning protoss before game )
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
May 26 2011 14:03 GMT
#72
On May 24 2011 05:44 Dimenus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 12:22 tkRage wrote:
We need the updated version of this map, it's so unbelievably broken...



I google'd around to see if i could find the updated version, but to no avail


That's because nobody updated the map yet.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 14:15:02
May 26 2011 14:13 GMT
#73
On May 26 2011 23:03 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 05:44 Dimenus wrote:
On May 23 2011 12:22 tkRage wrote:
We need the updated version of this map, it's so unbelievably broken...



I google'd around to see if i could find the updated version, but to no avail


That's because nobody updated the map yet.

just to let you guys know the map got updated like a week ago but it will always be called 1.18 at the end regardless if i update it

the map is alot less broken than you'd think. i feel like the one microing better wins about 80% of the times. i dont have alot of time that i want to spend on balancing this but its a slow progresss and im probably not gonna stop looking at it as long as its as popular as it is now

thanks alot to everyone who is playing it but i hope u all can try find things you can improve upon in your game rather than blaming the matchup it gives you. just like real 1x1 gaming its the ideal mindset to become better

just wanna add that the only one updating the map would be me. a few of the new levels are designed by sjow and bischu. for example bischu designed the stalker vs 8 lings, he wanted 10 lings and sjow wanted 6 lings so i split the difference. both of them are progamers and still ahve such a different opinion how many lings there should be so its actually not that easy as it first seems to balance the matchups
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Sek-Kuar
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic593 Posts
May 26 2011 14:47 GMT
#74
On May 26 2011 23:13 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 23:03 GreEny K wrote:
On May 24 2011 05:44 Dimenus wrote:
On May 23 2011 12:22 tkRage wrote:
We need the updated version of this map, it's so unbelievably broken...



I google'd around to see if i could find the updated version, but to no avail


That's because nobody updated the map yet.

just to let you guys know the map got updated like a week ago but it will always be called 1.18 at the end regardless if i update it

the map is alot less broken than you'd think. i feel like the one microing better wins about 80% of the times. i dont have alot of time that i want to spend on balancing this but its a slow progresss and im probably not gonna stop looking at it as long as its as popular as it is now

thanks alot to everyone who is playing it but i hope u all can try find things you can improve upon in your game rather than blaming the matchup it gives you. just like real 1x1 gaming its the ideal mindset to become better

just wanna add that the only one updating the map would be me. a few of the new levels are designed by sjow and bischu. for example bischu designed the stalker vs 8 lings, he wanted 10 lings and sjow wanted 6 lings so i split the difference. both of them are progamers and still ahve such a different opinion how many lings there should be so its actually not that easy as it first seems to balance the matchups


Big respect!

But this one is actually easy, I always just a-move in this match no matter on which side Im, and Z always win. You rarely ever see stalker killing even 1 ling, for gods sake they have same speed so stalker cant stutter step w/o taking much more dmg than dealing.

it should be more for real people, me as 1,1k diamond find it unbeable so its like that 99% of ppl on b.net cant play it...

And it doesnt matter how much progamers think its balanced.


But big thx, you are correct that at least 80% of matches are balanced and better micro will win, so gj!
Scientists finally discovered what's wrong with the female brain: On the left side, there is nothing right, and on the right side, there's nothing left. [http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/213948/1/DJVibrejtr/]
r3tsa
Profile Joined April 2011
Poland94 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 15:32:34
May 26 2011 15:29 GMT
#75
On May 26 2011 21:44 Sek-Kuar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 22:59 Whalecore wrote:
This map is awesome, only thing I dislike is when I spawn with 1 stalker vs 8(?) lings ^^ This matchup would be winnable for the zerg even with 2 stalkers I think.


Sure you do, because in every else match Protoss just spawn with so many units that they just a-move and watch enemy micro crap out of him...

The most micro intensive P match is 1 phoenix vs 3 mutas, then need ~30 click there, in most other ~5 click is more than enuf.


I wonder, is there any channel for this? On EU, every day around ~16:00 cet it takes just few mins to get 14 players to game, there is a lot people plaing it, but other than that you wont find anyone... Id love to see that (for banning protoss before game )


If other races are dumb, then sure a-move for protoss is kinda enough.The one with 3 mutas vs 1 phoenix is kinda OP for mutas if uknow how to micro them.

Im 900+ master level protoss and my best score is to kill about 4 zerglings with a stalker, i find it ridiculous hard beause when zerg split lings it is kinda impossible to run around and recharge shield.
No pain, no gain.
Sek-Kuar
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic593 Posts
May 26 2011 16:14 GMT
#76
On May 27 2011 00:29 r3tsa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 21:44 Sek-Kuar wrote:
On May 22 2011 22:59 Whalecore wrote:
This map is awesome, only thing I dislike is when I spawn with 1 stalker vs 8(?) lings ^^ This matchup would be winnable for the zerg even with 2 stalkers I think.


Sure you do, because in every else match Protoss just spawn with so many units that they just a-move and watch enemy micro crap out of him...

The most micro intensive P match is 1 phoenix vs 3 mutas, then need ~30 click there, in most other ~5 click is more than enuf.


I wonder, is there any channel for this? On EU, every day around ~16:00 cet it takes just few mins to get 14 players to game, there is a lot people plaing it, but other than that you wont find anyone... Id love to see that (for banning protoss before game )


If other races are dumb, then sure a-move for protoss is kinda enough.The one with 3 mutas vs 1 phoenix is kinda OP for mutas if uknow how to micro them.

Im 900+ master level protoss and my best score is to kill about 4 zerglings with a stalker, i find it ridiculous hard beause when zerg split lings it is kinda impossible to run around and recharge shield.


And if they aint dumd, then a-move is still enough.

We have actually done some testing, and most PvT and PvZ where are immortals/colo/ht can be won w/o using storm (idle hts), or with half of zealots just on a-move.

ZvZ, TvZ are ok. TvT is sometime kinda weird. PvP is quite fine too. But both PvZ and PvT are mostly just ridiculous.
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r3tsa
Profile Joined April 2011
Poland94 Posts
May 26 2011 16:23 GMT
#77
U know i cant kite with terran almost everything, while my main is protoss, i don't see your point i just crush every a-moving protoss in almost any matchup.
No pain, no gain.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
May 26 2011 16:30 GMT
#78

And if they aint dumd, then a-move is still enough.

We have actually done some testing, and most PvT and PvZ where are immortals/colo/ht can be won w/o using storm (idle hts), or with half of zealots just on a-move.

ZvZ, TvZ are ok. TvT is sometime kinda weird. PvP is quite fine too. But both PvZ and PvT are mostly just ridiculous.



yeah especially the PvZs are unit combinations that every zerg tries to avoid these days... seriously, who goes roach/hydra broodlord as a combat combination.
hydras are AA and drop, but in combat (especially in those low numbers) you always aim for more roaches in a serious game...
and always those ridicolous colossus counts... 4colossi... every terran and zerg has to overmake corruptor or vikings when protoss gets those counts up, but in most of those battles you don't even have corruptor or viking
r3tsa
Profile Joined April 2011
Poland94 Posts
May 26 2011 18:16 GMT
#79
And u know what? I can do this without vikings/corruptors, other races whined for so long that colossus has a "cusrhing" psychological effect.
No pain, no gain.
BlackMesa
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Kenya338 Posts
May 26 2011 19:38 GMT
#80
Anyone know if a NA update is on the way?
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