EPT[UMS][D] MorroW Micro Tournament - Page 4
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
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abraXas
Germany13 Posts
also there are some stalemate situations, like only left viking vs tanks where both players wont draw or surrender. would be nice if after 2 minutes the game would just measure the winner out of army value or something. one bug i think: in 5vikings 1 banshe mirror matchup, it often happens to me that last vikings take each other out and only banshees are left. in this case one of the players just wins and it doesnt seem to be the one whos viking survived longer. also many terran matchups seem really really hard if the enemy just instantly attacks leaving terran with little space to kite and micro. examples helion marauder vs lings roaches (both matchups), helion thor vs lings roaches, warpgate + coloss vs marines marauder, warpgate 2coloss vs vikings marines, marauder. maybe we should get 3 secs to hotkey stuff before the round starts. | ||
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palanq
United States761 Posts
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Chronoboosted
United States59 Posts
Yeah, I've played this and it's nowhere near as good as Dota. I give the creators credit for making the map in such a short time though. | ||
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Whalecore
Norway1111 Posts
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
I know TLO is playing it a lot today, but still :/ Great map tho for sure. | ||
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zende
Sweden234 Posts
On May 23 2011 03:24 iGrok wrote: Question: Was that really worth a 7 month bump? I know TLO is playing it a lot today, but still :/ Great map tho for sure. You would rather see him make a new topic to tell everyone his opinion? | ||
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TheBoogeyMan
United States17 Posts
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tkRage
225 Posts
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Dimenus
United States157 Posts
On May 23 2011 12:22 tkRage wrote: We need the updated version of this map, it's so unbelievably broken... I google'd around to see if i could find the updated version, but to no avail  | ||
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Sek-Kuar
Czech Republic593 Posts
On May 22 2011 22:59 Whalecore wrote: This map is awesome, only thing I dislike is when I spawn with 1 stalker vs 8(?) lings ^^ This matchup would be winnable for the zerg even with 2 stalkers I think. Sure you do, because in every else match Protoss just spawn with so many units that they just a-move and watch enemy micro crap out of him... The most micro intensive P match is 1 phoenix vs 3 mutas, then need ~30 click there, in most other ~5 click is more than enuf. I wonder, is there any channel for this? On EU, every day around ~16:00 cet it takes just few mins to get 14 players to game, there is a lot people plaing it, but other than that you wont find anyone... Id love to see that (for banning protoss before game  ) | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On May 24 2011 05:44 Dimenus wrote: I google'd around to see if i could find the updated version, but to no avail That's because nobody updated the map yet. | ||
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
just to let you guys know the map got updated like a week ago but it will always be called 1.18 at the end regardless if i update it the map is alot less broken than you'd think. i feel like the one microing better wins about 80% of the times. i dont have alot of time that i want to spend on balancing this but its a slow progresss and im probably not gonna stop looking at it as long as its as popular as it is now thanks alot to everyone who is playing it but i hope u all can try find things you can improve upon in your game rather than blaming the matchup it gives you. just like real 1x1 gaming its the ideal mindset to become better  just wanna add that the only one updating the map would be me. a few of the new levels are designed by sjow and bischu. for example bischu designed the stalker vs 8 lings, he wanted 10 lings and sjow wanted 6 lings so i split the difference. both of them are progamers and still ahve such a different opinion how many lings there should be so its actually not that easy as it first seems to balance the matchups | ||
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Sek-Kuar
Czech Republic593 Posts
On May 26 2011 23:13 MorroW wrote: just to let you guys know the map got updated like a week ago but it will always be called 1.18 at the end regardless if i update it the map is alot less broken than you'd think. i feel like the one microing better wins about 80% of the times. i dont have alot of time that i want to spend on balancing this but its a slow progresss and im probably not gonna stop looking at it as long as its as popular as it is now thanks alot to everyone who is playing it but i hope u all can try find things you can improve upon in your game rather than blaming the matchup it gives you. just like real 1x1 gaming its the ideal mindset to become better just wanna add that the only one updating the map would be me. a few of the new levels are designed by sjow and bischu. for example bischu designed the stalker vs 8 lings, he wanted 10 lings and sjow wanted 6 lings so i split the difference. both of them are progamers and still ahve such a different opinion how many lings there should be so its actually not that easy as it first seems to balance the matchups Big respect! But this one is actually easy, I always just a-move in this match no matter on which side Im, and Z always win. You rarely ever see stalker killing even 1 ling, for gods sake they have same speed so stalker cant stutter step w/o taking much more dmg than dealing. it should be more for real people, me as 1,1k diamond find it unbeable so its like that 99% of ppl on b.net cant play it... And it doesnt matter how much progamers think its balanced. But big thx, you are correct that at least 80% of matches are balanced and better micro will win, so gj! | ||
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r3tsa
Poland94 Posts
On May 26 2011 21:44 Sek-Kuar wrote: Sure you do, because in every else match Protoss just spawn with so many units that they just a-move and watch enemy micro crap out of him... The most micro intensive P match is 1 phoenix vs 3 mutas, then need ~30 click there, in most other ~5 click is more than enuf. I wonder, is there any channel for this? On EU, every day around ~16:00 cet it takes just few mins to get 14 players to game, there is a lot people plaing it, but other than that you wont find anyone... Id love to see that (for banning protoss before game )If other races are dumb, then sure a-move for protoss is kinda enough.The one with 3 mutas vs 1 phoenix is kinda OP for mutas if uknow how to micro them. Im 900+ master level protoss and my best score is to kill about 4 zerglings with a stalker, i find it ridiculous hard beause when zerg split lings it is kinda impossible to run around and recharge shield. | ||
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Sek-Kuar
Czech Republic593 Posts
On May 27 2011 00:29 r3tsa wrote: If other races are dumb, then sure a-move for protoss is kinda enough.The one with 3 mutas vs 1 phoenix is kinda OP for mutas if uknow how to micro them. Im 900+ master level protoss and my best score is to kill about 4 zerglings with a stalker, i find it ridiculous hard beause when zerg split lings it is kinda impossible to run around and recharge shield. And if they aint dumd, then a-move is still enough. We have actually done some testing, and most PvT and PvZ where are immortals/colo/ht can be won w/o using storm (idle hts), or with half of zealots just on a-move. ZvZ, TvZ are ok. TvT is sometime kinda weird. PvP is quite fine too. But both PvZ and PvT are mostly just ridiculous. | ||
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r3tsa
Poland94 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
And if they aint dumd, then a-move is still enough. We have actually done some testing, and most PvT and PvZ where are immortals/colo/ht can be won w/o using storm (idle hts), or with half of zealots just on a-move. ZvZ, TvZ are ok. TvT is sometime kinda weird. PvP is quite fine too. But both PvZ and PvT are mostly just ridiculous. yeah especially the PvZs are unit combinations that every zerg tries to avoid these days... seriously, who goes roach/hydra broodlord as a combat combination. hydras are AA and drop, but in combat (especially in those low numbers) you always aim for more roaches in a serious game... and always those ridicolous colossus counts... 4colossi... every terran and zerg has to overmake corruptor or vikings when protoss gets those counts up, but in most of those battles you don't even have corruptor or viking | ||
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r3tsa
Poland94 Posts
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BlackMesa
Kenya338 Posts
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