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On November 14 2009 07:01 Severedevil wrote:
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If Destination is a bad map for Terran to mass vulture/tank off two bases and try to break Protoss's third in a massive push, then Terran should play a different style. If Destination is a bad map for Terran to mass vulture/tank off three bases and try to break Protoss's face in a massive push (with a few gols and one sci vessel OMG so much unit variety), then Terran should play a different style. "I can't win by massing two units, so imba!" is pathetic.
No offense but idiot tosses saying terran should so something else on desti and hbr im getting sick of this nonsense. No one in the pro scene has done anything on this map, nor in the foreinger scene.
ill explain why I think so.
Anykind of timing push fails cause a unharraseble third meaning you cant take full advantage of this build + bridges and a whide open space infront of toss base make it absolutly shit. 1 fac > 3 base with cliffing is horrible cause protoss just sees it 24/7 with obs and takes 5 bases and kill terran when they try move over the bridges.(cause you cant create a turret line wich blocks toss from vision on the base you will need like 12 turrets to do it). Fantasy build is nice in the early game cause large mains and spot behind nat there is alot of harraseble locations but with the fantasy build your upgrades are late meaning you get steamroled by arbiters + macro cause you dont have 3/2 weapons. And like said before its really impossible to push on this map so fantasy build losses potential, see stork vs fantasy on wcg outplay toss 10x still lose cause you cant do anything. Deep 6 dont work cause toss sees everything and such a long rush distance. 2 fac dont work cause you cant push over the bridges meaning at best you can only do some contain stuff.
What we have left? some retarderd proxy fac and armory build after 2th tank and just camp whole game long and hope toss doesnt get a good recall off and switches to carriers smoothly. What I prefer doing is doing a fantasy style opening but with only 1 fac or maximum of 2 fac and 1 port and then getting the armory already (before third) and do some damage with initial vultures and mb a tank drop behind the nat in order to equalise eco cause protoss is just gona explode after they take base 3&4.
All won games on destination are either a protoss who fails or a massive turtle game were nothing goes wrong for terran and just keeps scanning for the carrier switch.
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hopefully flash-jaedong rivalry will reignite
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United States10328 Posts
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You sound so surprised at Hwasin's qualification :p
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On November 17 2009 02:05 SuperArc wrote:You sound so surprised at Hwasin's qualification :p
well the man is soo incosistant
and.. i dont think he's made the semi's in any major SL
he's a good quality player. but he doesnt have the "magic"
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thats the point, he never gets far but hes always qualified in SL's
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Really hoping Sea is in the next Power Rank. He's been a total beast in his games as of late.
Though getting rolled in individual leagues probably doesnt help any.
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On November 17 2009 07:49 DreaM)XeRO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2009 02:05 SuperArc wrote:You sound so surprised at Hwasin's qualification :p well the man is soo incosistant and.. i dont think he's made the semi's in any major SL he's a good quality player. but he doesnt have the "magic"
Inconsistent? Hwasin is the mere personification of consistency!!! Him qualifying for Ro16 (however strong the group is) is a safer bet than JD/Flash/Bisu qualifying. And Hwasin did reach the semi-final of GOM TV S1 MSL.
The only reason he doesnt have a gold is because like you said "he dosnt have the magic"
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The month is still young, actually there is just a lot of starcraft left in it. + Show Spoiler +Well he has +3 games left to play, which is 50% more than he has played so far, unless you count his 2-0 of Fantasy at the Asian Indoor Games
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On November 17 2009 08:13 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2009 07:49 DreaM)XeRO wrote:On November 17 2009 02:05 SuperArc wrote:You sound so surprised at Hwasin's qualification :p well the man is soo incosistant and.. i dont think he's made the semi's in any major SL he's a good quality player. but he doesnt have the "magic" Inconsistent? Hwasin is the mere personification of consistency!!! Him qualifying for Ro16 (however strong the group is) is a safer bet than JD/Flash/Bisu qualifying. And Hwasin did reach the semi-final of GOM TV S1 MSL. The only reason he doesnt have a gold is because like you said "he dosnt have the magic"
He won a WCG korea
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On November 17 2009 16:06 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2009 08:13 SuperArc wrote:On November 17 2009 07:49 DreaM)XeRO wrote:On November 17 2009 02:05 SuperArc wrote:You sound so surprised at Hwasin's qualification :p well the man is soo incosistant and.. i dont think he's made the semi's in any major SL he's a good quality player. but he doesnt have the "magic" Inconsistent? Hwasin is the mere personification of consistency!!! Him qualifying for Ro16 (however strong the group is) is a safer bet than JD/Flash/Bisu qualifying. And Hwasin did reach the semi-final of GOM TV S1 MSL. The only reason he doesnt have a gold is because like you said "he dosnt have the magic" He won a WCG korea
In all honesty, no one really cares when they get to the final match. They've already qualified at that stage anyways.
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Hwasin is one of the most consistently decent terrans around. He always qualifies, he's just not champion material.
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On November 18 2009 07:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Hwasin is one of the most consistently decent terrans around. He always qualifies, he's just not champion material.
Because he always meets a protoss.... usually Bisu. But Bisu ain't in the OSL so maybe it is his time!
Or not.
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On November 18 2009 11:06 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2009 07:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Hwasin is one of the most consistently decent terrans around. He always qualifies, he's just not champion material. Because he always meets a protoss.... usually Bisu. But Bisu ain't in the OSL so maybe it is his time! Or not.
More like he usually loses to the eventual champion. :p
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United States10328 Posts
On November 17 2009 02:05 SuperArc wrote:You sound so surprised at Hwasin's qualification :p
i wouldn't be surprised if he made one starleague, but both is pretty cool [being the only other terran than flash to do that? ... pretty cool]
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Hwasin's gonna pull a GGplay one day. Qualify solidly but fail out in group stages for like 3 years running and then BOOM, epic comeback title win.
JUST YOU GUYS WAIT.
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On November 18 2009 23:45 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Hwasin's gonna pull a GGplay one day. Qualify solidly but fail out in group stages for like 3 years running and then BOOM, epic comeback title win.
JUST YOU GUYS WAIT.
I hope it's against Bisu in a OSL final if both ever get there  .
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Bisu is the insurance toss as far as OSL is concerned.
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On November 19 2009 01:25 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Bisu is the insurance toss as far as OSL is concerned.
+1
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