EPTThe Proleague season after SK Planet Season II (starting on October) is planned to be completely Starcraft II.
Extremely sad news. The most excellent game in history of e-sports is dying on our eyes ;(
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nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
Extremely sad news. The most excellent game in history of e-sports is dying on our eyes ;( | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:29 I_like_hydras wrote: e-sports are different from actual sports.Broodwar is a great game,but as the guy above said it can't live forever.Maybe because it's old or it has "shitty graphics" or whatever.I don't see how you can bring new people to e-sports by showing them Broodwar. Seems a lot of people mistake eSports for competitive gaming. | ||
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DayWalk3r
Canada192 Posts
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d6Mesh
Netherlands445 Posts
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
On May 02 2012 18:23 SC_Ghost wrote: I actually think Kespa still have too much of a Korean-centric focus going forward with SC2. When they were asked about foreign events, Kespa responded with "The main reason we switched to SC II was to put Korea forth as the motherland of esports." I can't see foreigners at Starleague within the next 2 years at least, and that's a huge push that I doubt it will ever happen, whereas I can see OGN conforming with GOMs approach with a more inviting league to foreigners. Why do foreigners want everything so easy for them? I fucking hate it. If they want to be good enough to play in SPL, it's their own job to go out there and make themselves known as fucking good players. If they are good I doubt any korean SPL team wouldn't hire them. This is fucking bullshit. Why should korean leagues be more inviting to foreigners? They should be welcoming the best players in the world, and only them. If it happens that all the best players in the world are koreans, too bad for foreigners. Happens that we are in a foreigner community and many people in it are so narrow minded that they feel "our" players should deserve a place in whatever korean league is created just because they are foreigners. If you want to play in the best tournament, you have to be the best, just because you are white (or black, or whatever other race) doesn't give you the right to claim a place in such leagues. "But mommy SPL happens in Korea, I can't play on same foot as the koreans, that's unfair!1!!". Well, fuck you. If you want to play in Korean leagues, go fucking live in Korea. "But I can't, too expensive, cultures too different, language barrier!1!!", fuck you again, the leagues happen in Korea, deal with it. You can't? Too bad, no SPL/OSL for you. The passport to korean leagues is your own fucking skills, not the fucking race you are. | ||
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Nerfed
Russian Federation1132 Posts
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On May 02 2012 21:02 Bareleon wrote: As much as I want SC2 to be the game in Korea instead of BW for esports I fear that will get ruined by SC2 simply because the game is harder to make out whats going on in it than BW You dont know that , sc2 has only a year or so , you think orginal sc 1 was so big in korea after a year ?. Sc2 dont even has expansion set like BW ...and you already know eh. Remmember players makes game interesting and hyped , i think BW pros will make sc2 much better and , and much more interesting to watch | ||
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Mobius_1
United Kingdom2763 Posts
Waxangel is dead from jet lag and GSL coverage Use blue flute? I'm sort of starting to come to terms with what's transpired. BW is so much fun to watch and so exciting, we can only hope that SC2 comes close, and soon, if it is to stay alive as long as BW has as the premier esport. But it's going to suck so much for the time when they have to practice both games. | ||
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vijeze
Netherlands719 Posts
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On May 02 2012 22:11 fabiano wrote: Why do foreigners want everything so easy for them? I fucking hate it. If they want to be good enough to play in SPL, it's their own job to go out there and make themselves known as fucking good players. If they are good I doubt any korean SPL team wouldn't hire them. This is fucking bullshit. Why should korean leagues be more inviting to foreigners? They should be welcoming the best players in the world, and only them. If it happens that all the best players in the world are koreans, too bad for foreigners. Happens that we are in a foreigner community and many people in it are so narrow minded that they feel "our" players should deserve a place in whatever korean league is created just because they are foreigners. If you want to play in the best tournament, you have to be the best, just because you are white (or black, or whatever other race) doesn't give you the right to claim a place in such leagues. "But mommy SPL happens in Korea, I can't play on same foot as the koreans, that's unfair!1!!". Well, fuck you. If you want to play in Korean leagues, go fucking live in Korea. "But I can't, too expensive, cultures too different, language barrier!1!!", fuck you again, the leagues happen in Korea, deal with it. You can't? Too bad, no SPL/OSL for you. The passport to korean leagues is your own fucking skills, not the fucking race you are. Well fabiano I understand your pain after all not many foreigners had the courage to go through courage tournament to get the pro gaming license to play in the SPL/MsL/OsL back than . I think it's just the same man, they thought sc2 if they played it first they will be dominating the game instead their plans back fired koreans are already the best at the game already and have been dominating everything they touch right now gsl tournament you name it . So much for easier UI will make me not work for it any more in the macro/micro department and can win it easily without any hard work. | ||
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Krogan
Sweden375 Posts
"KeSPA: Our first objective was to make it so Gom and KeSPA players could play in the same individual leagues. We're working towards that." I guess there is chance they mean everyone should play under KeSPA but I'll be optimistic and say it means KeSPA doesn't mean to keep all their players under lock and key. | ||
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frezMki
Germany62 Posts
Now Blizz has finally some power  | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
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Yosi
Poland49 Posts
IM SO EXCITED!!! | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On May 02 2012 22:32 XsebT wrote: This sound incredibly interesting! Of course I hope that bw somehow will thrive in this. But I also want to congratulate all the sc2 fans! - SC2 on OGN is likely to make the game about a billion times more interesting to watch. Haven't seen you in a while oh great streamer. | ||
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DamenPulse
United States37 Posts
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therockmanxx
Peru1174 Posts
There !! I fix it for you | ||
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SC_Ghost
United Kingdom64 Posts
On May 02 2012 22:11 fabiano wrote: Why do foreigners want everything so easy for them? I fucking hate it. If they want to be good enough to play in SPL, it's their own job to go out there and make themselves known as fucking good players. If they are good I doubt any korean SPL team wouldn't hire them. This is fucking bullshit. Why should korean leagues be more inviting to foreigners? They should be welcoming the best players in the world, and only them. If it happens that all the best players in the world are koreans, too bad for foreigners. Happens that we are in a foreigner community and many people in it are so narrow minded that they feel "our" players should deserve a place in whatever korean league is created just because they are foreigners. If you want to play in the best tournament, you have to be the best, just because you are white (or black, or whatever other race) doesn't give you the right to claim a place in such leagues. "But mommy SPL happens in Korea, I can't play on same foot as the koreans, that's unfair!1!!". Well, fuck you. If you want to play in Korean leagues, go fucking live in Korea. "But I can't, too expensive, cultures too different, language barrier!1!!", fuck you again, the leagues happen in Korea, deal with it. You can't? Too bad, no SPL/OSL for you. The passport to korean leagues is your own fucking skills, not the fucking race you are. Perhaps you've interpreted my post in a way I didn't attempt it to be perceived, I take full responsibility for that and I hope you accept my apology. But if we look at every Professional Gaming Competition that's considered of substantial, professional Merit (Such as MLG, IPL, GSL, DH, etc.) they are all inviting a global competition: MLG and IPL invites European and Asian players as well as their 'native' American players; DH does the same, and GSL too. It's established that way so that the global competitive scene grows, not each individual league/nation. It promotes growth across the board, which can only be a good thing. I have no quarrels with Korea being the home of the best skilled players, it promotes Korean skill-level and makes an impression when a foreigner reaches that level, and like you said: the good enough foreigners will make their own way there. But there's a difference between being inviting of Global Professional Gaming and positioning yourself above that, which (and I don't mean to offend anybody, I'm sorry if I do) I feel is the stance Kespa looks as though they have taken. They have been very critical of themselves with announcing their position to not be undermining of the global competitive scene, but they haven't positioned a stance with embracing it either; which just leaves me personally in an awkward place, thinking: Are they embracing Global Competition, or just acknowledging that it exists? Either outcome leads to a very different growth of e-sports, both of which the community can perceive to have a negative impact, but which is the lesser of two evils? EDIT: Just to add: I didn't mean the Korean league need to be inviting of foreigners, of course the foreigners have to earn their place, but I am afraid of the 'new' Korean leagues not embracing the Global scene. I don't want people to confuse Global and Foreign, as a global scene does and should involve the Korean scene. | ||
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shadowy
Bulgaria305 Posts
It was a matter of time really. | ||
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GeLaar
2421 Posts
OGN and Kespa are taking some pretty big risks: 1. They might alienate their Korean fans - there is only one game that every Korean grew up knowing, and they're turing their backs on it and saying "Hey, let's have millions of people switch to this other game!". I'm curious to see if this will work, and if it does, how many times it will work (because they will have to do it again for the two "expansions", and for SC3, and so on.) 2. Since SC2 doesn't have LAN, these organisations are now completely at Blizzard's mercy. Blizzard now has the power to pull the plug on Proleague or any other event, without having to go to the Korean courts. With Brood War, the situation was different. After Blizzard backed out of the lawsuit, it was theirs to do whatever they wanted with it. That's a pretty big thing they gave away. I hope for their sake that the relationship doesn't sour, and that Blizzard doesn't decide to change the deal. Overall, it's clear to me why Kespa and OGN did it. It's right there in the statement: international exposure. They are likely to get it, but the risks they are taking seem immense to me. | ||
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