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On February 28 2012 14:28 sooohawt wrote:
I'd like to see Stephano in the GSL just to get people to stfu about how good he is. He plays the same bad players over and over and wins. YAYYYYYY.
"Well, he beat Puma pretty handily at Assembly"
lol, Assembly.
Those mentioned that deserve this: Violet. Polt. Obviously MKP, but he's going to make it in Code S anyway. I'm a huge Naniwa fan. He is incredibly talented and I would like to see how well he could perform.
HuK: With his only decent result in a long time being a particularly underwhelming run to third place, maybe except for his win against OZ, in a coinflip matchup, I doubt very much that we could see him impress.
IdrA: Maybe. Very maybe.
Demuslim: No.
Stephano: Would like to see him get curb stomped. But his presence at GSL would bring a decidedly larger audience than the other players mentioned, so, there's that.
I'm not sure I get your point about Assembly. Not that it should matter WHERE he 3-0'd PuMa, but even if it did in what universe is Assembly not a top western tournament?
Though judging from your other, very rude, posts, you're just trolling.
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On February 28 2012 21:14 Nimic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 14:28 sooohawt wrote:
I'd like to see Stephano in the GSL just to get people to stfu about how good he is. He plays the same bad players over and over and wins. YAYYYYYY.
"Well, he beat Puma pretty handily at Assembly"
lol, Assembly.
Those mentioned that deserve this: Violet. Polt. Obviously MKP, but he's going to make it in Code S anyway. I'm a huge Naniwa fan. He is incredibly talented and I would like to see how well he could perform.
HuK: With his only decent result in a long time being a particularly underwhelming run to third place, maybe except for his win against OZ, in a coinflip matchup, I doubt very much that we could see him impress.
IdrA: Maybe. Very maybe.
Demuslim: No.
Stephano: Would like to see him get curb stomped. But his presence at GSL would bring a decidedly larger audience than the other players mentioned, so, there's that. I'm not sure I get your point about Assembly. Not that it should matter WHERE he 3-0'd PuMa, but even if it did in what universe is Assembly not a top western tournament? Though judging from your other, very rude, posts, you're just trolling.
Trolling is a terrible word tbh we used to call them stupid.
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On February 28 2012 20:39 Ponchey wrote:
The thing is that with the new 2 month seasons, accepting a GSL invite means you are commiting to stay in Korea for 2 months, right? At the moment I don't think a whole lot of foreigners would do that. Naniwa, Huk, Jinro and SaSe have all claimed (or seems) to be ready to stay for "as long as it takes".
Personally I really want it to be Naniwa. Yes, I'm Swedish and obviously biased, but I think GOM would be hard pressed to find another foreigner:
...with higher change of performing well.
...that would bring more attention and viewers to GSL.
...that is willing to stay the entire season (and following seasons).
Apparently a lot of korean fans, players and coaches see Naniwa as the devil, which might make it hard for GOM to give him a seed. But if the seeds were purely based on skill and honor, Koreans should get both of the code S invites. And I just can't imagine GOM running a Code S without a single foreigner, if they have the opportunity to invite one. (Which is probably why they changed the seed rules into a more arbitrary one anyway) There's just too much viewer/sponsorship money involved.
This.
It's the big problem of foreigners in GSL imho. GSL is hard to play if you're not korean (by birth or in your head). The only way to have many more foreigners wishing to play in GSL would be to make it way way shorter. Most of top foreigner don't want to live in Korea, for many obvious reasons.
They are OK for a 1 week trip, but not for a long time. That's why, like you said, finding foreigners is a real challenge for GOM imho.
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On February 28 2012 21:28 Daray wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 21:14 Nimic wrote:On February 28 2012 14:28 sooohawt wrote:
I'd like to see Stephano in the GSL just to get people to stfu about how good he is. He plays the same bad players over and over and wins. YAYYYYYY.
"Well, he beat Puma pretty handily at Assembly"
lol, Assembly.
Those mentioned that deserve this: Violet. Polt. Obviously MKP, but he's going to make it in Code S anyway. I'm a huge Naniwa fan. He is incredibly talented and I would like to see how well he could perform.
HuK: With his only decent result in a long time being a particularly underwhelming run to third place, maybe except for his win against OZ, in a coinflip matchup, I doubt very much that we could see him impress.
IdrA: Maybe. Very maybe.
Demuslim: No.
Stephano: Would like to see him get curb stomped. But his presence at GSL would bring a decidedly larger audience than the other players mentioned, so, there's that. I'm not sure I get your point about Assembly. Not that it should matter WHERE he 3-0'd PuMa, but even if it did in what universe is Assembly not a top western tournament? Though judging from your other, very rude, posts, you're just trolling. Trolling is a terrible word tbh we used to call them stupid.
YAY! SO WHO DO YOU GUYS THINK SHOULD BE IN CODE S =D
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On February 28 2012 11:11 JunkkaGom wrote:
if it were only so simple.
Could you perhaps elaborate a bit on which factors go into the final decision and where you are at that process?
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On February 28 2012 20:38 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 19:52 Thurken wrote:
I think that Ret and Huk are the best choice.
Both are foreigners and could therefore broaden the audience.
Both are willing to go to korea to attend code S if i'm not mistaken and have proven that they can perform in korea.
Both can take some bo3 to the best players, and more consistently than most foreigners.
Both have a good fanbase.
Neither of them were invited last season.
Neither of them have had issue with GomTv in past events.
Unfortunatly I still think that code S is too hard for them. Huk's original Code S placement was through a seed. That was a while ago, but he was an invite not a qualifier.
HuK got a Code A seed and made it to Code S the hard way.
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I'd love to see Major in the gsl, he's already over at the gom house and he's argueably the best foreign terran out there. The second person I'd like to see is LastShadow, aka ajtls. If you see his streams or vlogs you'll see how amazingly intelligent he is. He's also said he will never go to a foreign tournament because he wants to be the best, and going to a foreign tournament will hinder that. He's that hardcore.
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Ret, Demuslim, Stephano, Polt, Violet or a Chinese dude.
Something else would be blasphemy. Why is IdrA his name even on that list? Only to mock him?
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Interesting. In fact he even states that he may go to GSL if he doesnt miss any big european and american events.
Gogo Stephano!
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Stephano deserves a code S seed. I honestly don't think any foreigners are deserving of a code S seed other than Stephano.
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Quick translation of the 2 questions that may be of interest to the thread:
ITW: You said during Lan Assembly that fan support made you want to continue playing next year. How do you feel about it now ?
Stephano: I'm still thinking about it. Going on playing was out of the question 5 month ago, but it does not seem absurd right now. Do not raise your hopes too much though, I will let everyone know once I have decided 
ITW: What about Corea, are you thinking about it, or is it still a definite no ? Let's imagine you receive an invite to Code S !
Stephano: I'm sure I don't want to live in Corea. A training period of 10 days there to improve, maybe. Concerning GSL, it's mainly a schedule issue. If I can stay in Corea to play it without missing any major European or American event, I'll go.
Complete text in Stephano's fan thread pg 191
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People shouldn't care what nationality or race a player is. If the games are good then the spectators should enjoy. It's not wrong to cheer on the home team but a tournament like the GSL represents the highest level of skill and if no foreigner can achieve that level of skill or cannot make it to Korea (Stephano's case) then GOMtv shouldn't be looking for a spacefiller when you can have 2 more Code-S worthy Koreans instead of someone like Idra. People loved the MMA vs. DRG match and both are highly skilled Koreans. It's in the interest of the the game itself that we as the community embrace any matchup of any race as long as they are the two best skilled players. Idra had his shot and despite early success he failed later on (same with Jinro). HuK is the success story of a foreigner in the GSL as he has held on different levels of success in Code-S and the up-and-down matches. He dipped a bit recently but he'll be back at it and practicing again. NaNiwa hasn't really shown results in Korea but has shown he can obviously compete against high level players...I only question his consistency. Stephano seems to be a consistent zerg and although he is probably the best foreigner outside of Korea, I don't know how well he'll consistently measure up against Koreans. It's quite different to play a Korean from time to time with time to prep and then play a Korean everyday on the KR ladder where people know you and your style. The gaming culture is very different...obviously. If you can't find the right player outside Korea....stop looking...they come over and they fail.
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On February 28 2012 15:02 sooohawt wrote:
I guess IdrA is a no then, I think by very maybe I meant in the future, so probably not this season. I would love to see Stephano in the GSL for two reasons, to get roflstomped, and because he would bring a pretty decent following of Europeans that are oddly myopic and think he is the best player in the world. But, no, I don't think he "deserves" it by any means. Out of the people in the OP, I think the only players that "deserve" a Code S spot are Violet and Polt.
Idra has no chance in hell. He just got a seed and has not had any results in months. I just cannot fathom why people, including the OP still bring his name up as a possible contender. The GSL likes to give foreigner seeds, but they are not going to make a mockery of their most prestigious tournament to give Idra another seed when there are foreigners who have done well in major tournaments in the past few months, such as Huk, Dimaga, Stephano, Kas, etc.
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On February 28 2012 14:28 sooohawt wrote:
I'd like to see Stephano in the GSL just to get people to stfu about how good he is. He plays the same bad players over and over and wins. YAYYYYYY.
"Well, he beat Puma pretty handily at Assembly"
lol, Assembly.
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Stephano: Would like to see him get curb stomped. But his presence at GSL would bring a decidedly larger audience than the other players mentioned, so, there's that.
Did you watch the Blizzard cup? Stephano defeated DRG, who placed second in that cup after a very close final, second in this MLG, and will play the final of the current GSL. Stephano also lost to MC after MC very narrowly held an early attack. Two wins, one narrow loss and one clear loss in the strongest tournament of last year, and you think he will get stomped against players like Virus, Squirtle, Killer and Maru who are all standing in line to entering code S? Get real.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Lone Ranger back in Code - S. 8)
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I never liked Idra , but i like the hype he always caused... If idra started winning i bet MLG would sell-out PPVs ! he really should start thinking into changing races, for terran
Idra , Huk , naniwa , stephano should be the chosen ones , if they include korean they should select 2 great players who have fallen of code S
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I cant understand how ppl can think of Demuslim/Idra/Naniwa to be talented foreigners and on the other hand despise Stephano...
I am not from the people who says he s the best of the world (not even top 5/10 in fact) but i am convinced he s the best foreigner by skill and results. Moreover i really love to watch his games (won or lost), i think he rly has a unique and creative style... therefore i don't see any foreigner who would deserve a code S spot more than him REALLY NOT.
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didn't stephano express that he has no intention of playing in GSL?
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