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Damnight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany222 Posts
February 27 2012 22:05 GMT
#241
(T)MarineKingPrime: If he should somehow lose his Code A match, and then drop out of the Up-Downs, then obviously MKP will get in.

Nonsensical please explain i don´t get it
crazyweasel
Profile Joined March 2011
607 Posts
February 27 2012 22:18 GMT
#242
ToD or Stephano, both are incredibly strong players that do very well. if we haven't seen ToD alot recently those who have watched his stream knows hes a monster. he beat alot of Code S players on his ladder, i was there when he crushed leenock 3 games in a row the other day.
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 22:23:08
February 27 2012 22:22 GMT
#243
The order in which they should offer the seeds to is..

1. Polt
2. Stephano
3. Huk
4. Naniwa
5. Ret
6. Grubby

Faggatron
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom65 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 22:33:50
February 27 2012 22:32 GMT
#244
On February 28 2012 04:56 INTOtheVOID wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 03:52 PinkBean wrote:
On February 27 2012 20:25 Faggatron wrote:
Would be very sad to see HuK get this over Naniwa. His performance at mlg was better even though he placed lower. They both lost to same opponents, but nani killed the 2nd and 3rd best zergs in the world (playing incredibly).
Also he deserves it after being robbed over the probe rush, and I think he'd do a lot better than huk.

Played incredibly? Proxy 2 gate to beat Nestea? truly incredible.


That was ONE match, and it followed up TWO cheeses in a row from Nestea. That's besides the fact that Naniwa NEVER cheeses, which made his 2gate that more exciting to watch, especially since Nestea tried to cheese him out the prior two matches. Did you even watch Naniwa's matches? He actually did play incredibly the whole tournament, and if he wasn't such a stubborn and predictable player he wouldn't have gotten abused by DRG(I dont blame DRG one bit). Besides the fact that he had to play arguably the 3 best Zergs in the world, IN A ROW. Come on, I know there are lots of Naniwa haters but he played very well.

Well said. Also, (besides the fact that the only game that went long against nestea was won by naniwa, even though he was really far behind at one point), yes that proxy 2gate was incredible play.

Nestea had clearly studied Naniwa a lot, he knew he liked his greedy forge fast expand, and (cleverly) planned these all ins to take out that style. After seeing what nestea had done in the last 2 games, nani knew that nestea expected him to do his normal greedy build, and nestea choosing daybreak, nani knew he wanted to play a macro game. He was right, the 2gate killed him. It was well played.

Shows naniwa can mindgame gosu just like the top koreans (a quality top players should have).
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
February 27 2012 22:43 GMT
#245
Polt is the obvious candidate. Quite unfortunate for him to be sick during his match against the beastly Protoss Creator.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 27 2012 22:44 GMT
#246
On February 28 2012 07:22 dsousa wrote:
The order in which they should offer the seeds to is..

1. Polt
2. Stephano
3. Huk
4. Naniwa
5. Ret
6. Grubby



Dimaga? 2nd at Kiev and top 8 at Homestory.
Kas? 3rd at Kiev and WCG and got a 3-kill against team MVP in IPL TAC

While I would not say they are the most qualified, they should be in the running I think
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16099 Posts
February 27 2012 22:59 GMT
#247
On February 28 2012 01:45 dnld12 wrote:
Its gotta be Naniwa. I can see it no other way. He's too good. WHile huk, good, he did not go through the gauntlet of players and kick some serious butt. I still feel like Naniwa deserves his Code s shine.


Yes Naniwa is so good that he has yet to win a game in the GSL in Code A much less Code S.

Naniwa's had his chance, numerous times to prove to someone other than his faithful that he belongs anywhere near the top level in the world.

And now he doesn't even have the credentials to back it up where Huk and Polt have superior relevant credentials in 2012 for their seeds, both of them PROVING that they have what it takes to compete at the top level.

Naniwa hasn't proven anything to anyone in Korea. He's beaten Nestea and Leenock a few times, but he also hasn't managed to win a game in Korea. That isn't a fair trade.
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bobsire
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada296 Posts
February 27 2012 23:02 GMT
#248
Polt should definitely get a seed.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
February 27 2012 23:09 GMT
#249
On February 28 2012 07:59 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 01:45 dnld12 wrote:
Its gotta be Naniwa. I can see it no other way. He's too good. WHile huk, good, he did not go through the gauntlet of players and kick some serious butt. I still feel like Naniwa deserves his Code s shine.


Yes Naniwa is so good that he has yet to win a game in the GSL in Code A much less Code S.

Naniwa's had his chance, numerous times to prove to someone other than his faithful that he belongs anywhere near the top level in the world.

And now he doesn't even have the credentials to back it up where Huk and Polt have superior relevant credentials in 2012 for their seeds, both of them PROVING that they have what it takes to compete at the top level.

Naniwa hasn't proven anything to anyone in Korea. He's beaten Nestea and Leenock a few times, but he also hasn't managed to win a game in Korea. That isn't a fair trade.


Huk beat: Minigun, Socke, Ret, Oz
Naniwa beat: Grubby, Sheth, Nestea, Leenock

And you say Huk has proven to compete in 2012 while Naniwa hasnt proven anything?

btw: Naniwa has won games in Korea (AoL, GSTL)
ydeer1993
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom569 Posts
February 27 2012 23:29 GMT
#250
On February 28 2012 07:22 dsousa wrote:
The order in which they should offer the seeds to is..

1. Polt
2. Stephano
3. Huk
4. Naniwa
5. Ret
6. Grubby




Puma? why does no1 ever say him, he deserves a seed so much
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slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 23:32:43
February 27 2012 23:31 GMT
#251
This whole seed thing needs to end. It takes away from the prestige and hard work it takes to get through Code B and neglects all those koreans who can't travel overseas to tournaments, where foreigners have the ability to travel to Korea. Mr. Chae, please get rid of seeding, if not for Koreans, at least for Jinro, since he understands and respects Code B.
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Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
February 27 2012 23:36 GMT
#252
I would give the seeds to Naniwa and Polt.

Naniwa is incredibly determinated and hard-working, and Polt is incredibly talented and such a nice guy too.

If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 23:43:02
February 27 2012 23:41 GMT
#253
On February 28 2012 07:22 dsousa wrote:
The order in which they should offer the seeds to is..

1. Polt
2. Stephano
3. Huk
4. Naniwa
5. Ret
6. Grubby



That's a joke list and you know it. You are placing HuK over NaNiwa simply because of the placement @ MLG Winter Arena even though HuK had the easier way and got the easier opponents than NaNiwa.

NaNiwa impressed way more than HuK.

putting HuK over NaNiwa simply because of a 3rd place @ MLG Winter Arena where he met "tough" opponents such as minigun and Socke..... HAH. What a joke i say! Get a grip and get real!
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
February 27 2012 23:43 GMT
#254
On February 28 2012 08:29 ydeer1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 07:22 dsousa wrote:
The order in which they should offer the seeds to is..

1. Polt
2. Stephano
3. Huk
4. Naniwa
5. Ret
6. Grubby




Puma? why does no1 ever say him, he deserves a seed so much


PuMa most likely won't be able to attend the next Code A qualifier due to a schedule conflict with IEM and he is extremely disappointed about it. Wish he would receive a seed sometime in the future.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
February 27 2012 23:46 GMT
#255
On February 28 2012 08:29 ydeer1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 07:22 dsousa wrote:
The order in which they should offer the seeds to is..

1. Polt
2. Stephano
3. Huk
4. Naniwa
5. Ret
6. Grubby




Puma? why does no1 ever say him, he deserves a seed so much

Disagree. His runs in Korean online tournaments (featuring largely Code B players) have shown that he is not above most of the competition; a Code A seed would be generous, but a Code S one would be plain silly.
Ollix
Profile Joined October 2011
United States18 Posts
February 27 2012 23:47 GMT
#256
I used to like your write-ups, Wax, but your IdrA-bashing is reaching an all-time high, lately. At the very least, it used to be a bit more subtle. His play was about as good as HuK's was lately in the GSL.

Demuslim needs to prove himself a bit more against Koreans. I love the guy but Nestea's play seemed off. I think there are better foreigners to consider.

Stephano's interesting. I've never heard him mention in interviews if he's interested in ever going to Korea. The curveball there would be the fact that this is his last year as a progamer.
I bled blue until 5/9/2012
MONXY FIST
Profile Joined November 2009
United States142 Posts
February 27 2012 23:47 GMT
#257
On February 28 2012 06:14 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 05:08 gedatsu wrote:
Please, no Polt D: we only finally got rid of him D:

Polt-specific feelings aside, I think that someone who just got eliminated from code A shouldn't be eligible for a code S seed at least for the immediately following tournament. If Polt continues to slay European nerds then by all means, invite him in May or something. But not after he just got kicked out. Same goes for Huk. FTR, I was also against Naniwa receiving three invites in a row.

Also I would argue that MLG should weigh heavier than Assembly. The star power of Assembly simply doesn't compare.


Polt has been slaying European nerds for a while.

He pretty much wins as many Euro online tournaments than the actual Europeans.

And just because MLG > Assembly in talent doesn't mean anything. Polt pretty much had, in either Assembly or MLG, one of the hardest roads all weekend. Taeja, Hero, Lucky, and Stephano? Testing all of his match-ups and not just one? His "weakest" match-up being the one he had to play in the semifinals/finals and going 7-2 against top competition?



Yeah i agree, Polt pretty much hit all of the best players in Assembly. I would say only MarineKings run was more impressive however i doubt MarineKing wont win his Code A match or in the Up and downs so i don't think we need to worry about MarineKing getting a seed.
None but a coward dares to boast that he has never known fear.
YourOldBuddy
Profile Joined December 2011
Iceland94 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 23:51:06
February 27 2012 23:47 GMT
#258
Of the foreigners... (well the western ones)....

Stephano (can beat anyone, loose to anyone)
Naniwa (just beat Leenock and Nestea)
Sase (has pedigree and plays beautiful matches, see Winter MLG, vs SAN)
Morrow (won Ryung in up and down matches)

The Swedes haven't impressed at the GSL but after Stephano i think they are still the best chance. Stephano is so inconsistent that it might be best to have Sase have a go. He hasn't done so badly and he plays fun matches. Naniwa has a bad record in total number of wins at the GSL but a large part was very very close and might get better with Protoss bumps. Naniwa has also won MVP and other respected Koreans in the past.

I had a number of other players on the list. Thorzain is slumping. Huk's best win at MLG was Ret and truth be told I think Ret might still have a better chance at GSL. Sheth has pedigree like Huk and has looked really impressive lately. Naama has posted a few very nice games from Korea. I don't know if he is just posting winning games but they look very promising and he has won Dreamhack. Dimaga, Nerchio or Mana?
midftw
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada170 Posts
February 27 2012 23:52 GMT
#259
Either you go through code A, qualify like a normal person and put up a decent performance in code S OR you get seeded directly in code S and go 0-4. Obviously GSL is doing it to attract/keep their foreign audience and that is why they will seed foreigners no matter if they're weak. I know at first it looks like a nice thing for the seeded players, but in reality it's a deception. GSL does not care if these seeded players humiliate themselves, their only purpose is to build hype and expand their viewers.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
February 27 2012 23:57 GMT
#260
Personally, I wouldn't expect the Code S seed to go to a player currently in Code A. I'd even consider it a waste .

Players in Code A still get screen time, and it can be exciting to have players like MKP fight their way back up. These seeds should be for players who we otherwise wouldn't get to see.
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