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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
November 15 2011 17:30 GMT
#281
On November 16 2011 02:11 Basher_ wrote:
@fishuu interesting but i disagree well written. with all due respect, be more efficient with your language. You could have cut 1/4 of the words without losing any meaning.

Agreed, this is a problem I find with a lot of fishuu's writing, but to be fair, it's not his expertise.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
November 15 2011 17:31 GMT
#282
An awesome article with some seriously excellent writing. And the picture is hilarious and very well made too. Great job guys!

Also, it's funny how people complained about Stephano's naked boobs but no one mentioned Puma's pubic hair.
Golbat
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States499 Posts
November 15 2011 17:31 GMT
#283
Stephano needs to put a bra on.
Like why do u use an oven instead of a fire? Coz its fucking better at cooking, that doesnt mean you want the shit to burn.
RamonMcGrady
Profile Joined July 2011
33 Posts
November 15 2011 17:34 GMT
#284
Excellent writing, i must admit. Very deep, describes very well what the state of the game actually is. Ok, that came out as a cross reference, but it wasn't intended ^^

Keep this kind of threads up, they are what we nerds like to read
Siaubunas
Profile Joined April 2011
Lithuania12 Posts
November 15 2011 17:35 GMT
#285
Thx for good article!
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
November 15 2011 17:40 GMT
#286
On November 16 2011 02:30 Darkstar_X wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 16:09 Qaatar wrote:
Might the future look different? We might have good reason to desperately wish it will. At the heart of 'balance' in starcraft is a belief that the better, harder working, smarter player will always win. In challenging the idea that practice is what matters most of all in Starcraft 2, we open up the argument that Starcraft 2 is simply not as balanced a game as we wish to believe. That players who have put in less time, in less rigorous conditions can win is a threat to the basic premise of Starcraft 2 competition. This argument seems like too dramatic an overall conclusion after just a month of foreigner success. But it might be that we all have a stake in rooting for Koreans in the future, if only because it'll mean that practice is slowly starting to make perfect.


This is the only part of the article that I agree with. If practice doesn't make perfect in this game as it does in BW, then I might as well as stop watching. I can only hope that HoTS and LoTV bring more depth, both physical and mental, to this game.


Practice NEVER makes perfect and never has. Practice makes permanent. How well you spend your time practicing will matter for how well you do, not just how long you practice.


Indirectly, an RTS game with sufficient amount of mechanical requirements will demand length of practice as a prerequisite of success. Of course, I was working under the impression that most practice habits are similar in efficiency - obviously they aren't, but that's an area that is extremely hard to quantify and measurem, and obviously, differs from human being to human being.

It's just like schooling. Mass schooling exists because society has to have a baseline to measure competency. Sure, the more education one has doesn't always directly equate to more competency in a specific subject matter, but in general, there is a strong correlation. In a perfect world, every single progamer should get individual attention based upon his/her own needs, but we're obviously not there yet. Thus, more practice (assuming relatively efficient means of doing so) are the best ways we have right now.
Microchaton
Profile Joined March 2011
France342 Posts
November 15 2011 17:42 GMT
#287
If you think in order to have a "non-fraud" game, skill only needs to be based on the amount of practice, you're really sad.
Some people are just good. It's called talent, it's what makes sports and games interesting. Does that mean a very talented player doesn't need practice ? Of course not. But a talented player can probably beat a player with no talent who practices twice as much.
I really don't care enough to go into an essay in that, but that's so painfully obvious that I don't understand how people can dismiss natural proficiency. In music for instance, some people are "talented" or even incredibly gifted, and some people will forever stay mediocre.
Stormy
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
November 15 2011 17:47 GMT
#288
Needs more fishuu imo
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 17:51:06
November 15 2011 17:50 GMT
#289
Until they manage to beat the top koreans on a consistent basis, these three players do not impress me at all.
o choro é livre
UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
November 15 2011 17:50 GMT
#290
Nice article, love the French revolutionary spin, and the individual profiles
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
November 15 2011 18:03 GMT
#291
FishuUUuu!!!!! I want to mail you cash!!!!!! argahghaghaghaghhagarghghh

Great graphics.
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
November 15 2011 18:03 GMT
#292
On November 15 2011 15:54 Puph wrote:
No offense to whoever made the drawing, but I...don't understand why Stephano's face is on the body of a naked woman :S (edit) holding a gun


He's French and the French chick's holding the French flag during the French revolution. I sence a theme here.
What's funny though is that the october revolution was when the communists took power in russia ^_^
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
November 15 2011 18:04 GMT
#293
It's this same mentality you're potraying in this article the one that makes us stagnate over time. That is, the constant need of wanting to classify things.

The Korean Model, The Foreign Teamhouse Model, The Lone Ranger Model, Foreigners, Koreans, mass-practice, smart-practice, self-confidence.

If you're at the top, you got yourself there, not a style.
Sideburn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
November 15 2011 18:06 GMT
#294
So much Stephano hype... next comes Elfi and... well, I hope they can live up to it. I can see them losing fans for something that isn't their fault at all.
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
November 15 2011 18:07 GMT
#295
great graphics !
Uridium
Profile Joined September 2010
United States86 Posts
November 15 2011 18:08 GMT
#296
This is probably the most epic OP ever, great rendition of a classic painting!
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.
ionize
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Ireland399 Posts
November 15 2011 18:10 GMT
#297
I read this during work today and had a good time. Thanks for this nice article. <3
I just love video games, what's your excuse?
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 18:14:47
November 15 2011 18:14 GMT
#298
On November 16 2011 03:04 EsX_Raptor wrote:
It's this same mentality you're potraying in this article the one that makes us stagnate over time. That is, the constant need of wanting to classify things.

The Korean Model, The Foreign Teamhouse Model, The Lone Ranger Model, Foreigners, Koreans, mass-practice, smart-practice, self-confidence.

If you're at the top, you got yourself there, not a style.


... Reading comprehension is not so good on TL.

The bolded is literally what the article is saying. All the classifications are done by the masses. He is saying there is not a set model (with the majority of people believing the Korean model is the one) that you have to follow to create a champion.
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
November 15 2011 18:22 GMT
#299
Sweeeet read! Got me pumped... SO PUMPED!!!!!!!
Liquid
jyuj
Profile Joined October 2007
Australia103 Posts
November 15 2011 18:24 GMT
#300
Instead, they have much more to do with an improved mentality. As his mechanics and strategies are relatively unchanged, what has given IdrA recent success is a different way of looking his games and his play.This is not news, IdrA has said this in interviews, and it has been echoed repeatedly by the EG faithful. But it is symptomatic of the cognitive dissonance on these issues that the significance of this has not been really examined

This group of sentences makes no sense lol
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