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On October 29 2011 11:13 Imperium11 wrote:


In addition to Pokebunny's comment above about Protoss intentionally overmaking gates and banking resources, it should be noted that there is a natural buildup of resources during each warpgate cooldown, resulting in a lower SQ even were the Protoss to not overmake gates.

I also would like to point out that this measures only the spending of money, not the efficacy of that spending. As far as I understand it, a player poorly macroing and queuing up several units would receive a high SQ because their money was being spent, even if it was not being done in a productive way.

Edit: misquote

On October 29 2011 11:21 whatthefat wrote:

Well, let's remember that all the races score equally well on SQ for Bronze through Grandmaster (top 100). It's only at this extremely high level that I'm seeing any racial differences (and they aren't yet confirmed).

And yes, there are ways to 'game' SQ, e.g., building way too many production facilities for your income, or queuing like crazy. But even still, on average Bronze players score worse than Silver players, who score worse than Gold players, and so on. So it still seems to be a pretty good metric for assessing your spending ability. But it shouldn't be viewed in complete isolation - of course if you are doing something else terrible, like queuing all the time, you need to address that. I don't think any pro players are doing that though.

Once we have more data we can figure out whether the SQ needs to be slightly adjusted for race at the pro level - or just compared within races as Whitewing suggested.

On October 29 2011 11:35 Reborn8u wrote:
Protoss is of course going to have higher unspent, zergs and terrans can make 50 mineral units. So all game long a protoss player would have to wait for at least 100 before he can spend it. Not only that but because of warp cycles, protoss is always going to be stacking up minerals in between cycles. Where a zerg can constantly spend if he has larva and a terran can cue units. All of this artificially inflates a protoss players average unspent resources. Especially when you look at the cost of stalkers, colossus, immortals compared to anything terran or zerg are producing in the mid game. Protoss has to let more pile up before it gets spent. On top of that most protoss upgrades and tech structures are 2x the cost of terran or zergs.

This clearly demonstrates protoss having more unspent. I think it is purely a result of the race mechanics.

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On October 29 2011 11:35 heyoka wrote:
Everything you post is amazing, great stuff

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On October 29 2011 11:01 Pokebunny wrote:
Great article.

Protoss can be explained by the fact that it is the only race where it's sometimes actually good to overmake warp gates and bank resources. I suspect that is why we see lower protoss SQ especially in tournaments; planned strategies probably take the into plan more than ladder strategies, and the very best protoss are more likely to implement this often.

On October 29 2011 10:50 MonkSEA wrote:
I think the warpgate mechanic might actually be hindering Protoss' SQ, but very nice read. I'm pretty surprised at Bombers SQ and Ret's as well.