EPTQ&A w/ Chris Sigaty & David Kim - Page 10
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Madera
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I mean Bnet was bad and hated even before the game was out. Millions of things were on their 'list'. There are monthly issues in tournaments because of missing LAN. Nothing is done, just lots of talking. But like in politics there comes the election time. You can vote with your wallet. Will you (basically everyone who bought WoL) just keep on talking and complaning or will there be consequences? I'm asking, as for my part, I definitely won't buy Starcraft HotS and most likely no further Bnet controlled games. I bought WoL and was hoping for the promised and even more as I couldn't believe they were serious about this Bnet thing and they would fix it soon. I read complains over complain. An endless stream of issues. I feel the same way but never wrote about it. I just made my decision over the past months. Will you buy HotS and just keep complaining or do you have something else in mind? I'm just wondering if I'm the only one that actually acts and everyone else just keeps talking but agreeing to everything by voting with their wallet. Or if there are lots of people acting and just not talking about that they are. edit:typo | ||
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Hellbourne
Germany63 Posts
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Longshank
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On October 22 2011 18:49 Hellbourne wrote: Hell yeah, Clan Support. May I ask is there are more exact information about the HotS beta? When will it start, how can you participate and so on? Months, not years, they said so no exact date. You opt in for the beta at your battle.net account page as usual. | ||
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eohs
United States677 Posts
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Cyborgryna
Germany12 Posts
On October 22 2011 12:37 beefhamburger wrote: So yeah, it's fucking stupid. I don't see the urgency for them to add lan, even for tournament play. If it's not available anywhere else other than tournies, then pros will be practicing in different conditions which makes their overall gameplay suboptimal. No one wants that. No one. If they can't practice in latency-free conditions, I don't want them to suddenly switch for a few days and see their skill drop from practice. And no, you can't just get used to having no lag when all you've practiced on is inherent bnet latency. If they one day public lan, then I will welcome lan for tournies with open arms. I totally agree! AoE spells like fungal, storm or ff are practically trained w/ lag since the beta! If nobody can expirience lag free games, LAN is a useless feature (even for the pros). In the Beta i watched an ESLTV cast with Filly and an old german BW Progammer and he complain about the missing LAN support but at the same time he said he had problems in BW playing lag-free after training for month over a normal shitty internet connection! BUT we should not complain...don't worry be happy  | ||
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Tiazi
Netherlands761 Posts
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GiftPflanZe
Germany623 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Tropical Bob
United States127 Posts
On October 22 2011 18:40 (Max 20 chars) wrote: I'm wondering since month and going to ask now: Will there be consequences? I mean Bnet was bad and hated even before the game was out. Millions of things were on their 'list'. There are monthly issues in tournaments because of missing LAN. Nothing is done, just lots of talking. But like in politics there comes the election time. You can vote with your wallet. Will you (basically everyone who bought WoL) just keep on talking and complaning or will there be consequences? I'm asking, as for my part, I definitely won't buy Starcraft HotS and most likely no further Bnet controlled games. I bought WoL and was hoping for the promised and even more as I could believe they were serious about this Bnet thing and they would fix it soon. I read complains over complain. An endless stream of issues. I feel the same way but never wrote about it. I just made my decision over the past month. Will you buy HotS and just keep complaining or do you have something else in mind? I'm just wondering if I'm the only one that actually acts and everyone else just keeps talking but agreeing to everything by voting with their wallet. Or if there are lots of people acting and just not talking about that they are. The unfortunate thing is that there's so many people that either don't care about LAN or will buy it anyway (Like seriously progaming teams, tournament organizers, etc.) that there's basically no way to convince enough consumers to make a large enough dent in sales to convince Blizzard to take our suggestions and demands seriously. So despite my desire to persuade Blizzard in one way or another, I'm going to buy it anyway. I'm a realist. There's enough idiots out there that my vote literally doesn't count either way. Same reason I don't care about politics. | ||
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IIIOmegaIII
Sweden319 Posts
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Zomny
Germany22 Posts
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winsause
United States65 Posts
On October 22 2011 12:05 Jibba wrote: I wonder if they seriously think people are going to play Blizzard DotA. There shouldn't be any full time staff devoted to it. DotA 2 is groomed for ESPORTS, which Blizzard won't do and Bnet2 isn't capable of supporting, and LoL is huge and free. It's an oversaturated scene with far more experienced and advanced developers and systems. They should just abandon it. I'm pretty sure they are just aiming Blizzard Dota as something you can play while logged into b.net.. a silly custom game. | ||
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On October 22 2011 19:41 Tropical Bob wrote: The unfortunate thing is that there's so many people that either don't care about LAN or will buy it anyway (Like seriously progaming teams, tournament organizers, etc.) that there's basically no way to convince enough consumers to make a large enough dent in sales to convince Blizzard to take our suggestions and demands seriously. So despite my desire to persuade Blizzard in one way or another, I'm going to buy it anyway. I'm a realist. There's enough idiots out there that my vote literally doesn't count either way. Same reason I don't care about politics. I think I didn't make myself clear. I don't intend to make Blizzard change anything with not buying the game. It's as you say: Be realistic. Blizzard won't change Bnet dependency and all the flaws within that system. All the complaining is useless and at the end just some sort of generic regulars' table talk. They won't change things but more likely extend them. They made their point clear over and over again. That's why I won't buy it. Not to pressure someone. It's not about sending a message. It's just a bad product and I don't support that product and the idea - as most people I guess. That's the reason. It's simply a logical consequence not to buy it. I feel people still buying HotS lose every right to complain about Bnet related issues as they comfort Blizzard with their money to leave it as it is. And that's why I asked. To find out if people are serious about their complains or if this is all more just generic talk and complain because we are humans and like to complain about everything but at the end still vote in favour. | ||
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Leviance
Germany4079 Posts
On October 22 2011 11:45 Kennigit wrote: He feels that the beta will give the design team much more substantial data than WoL because there's such a rich pool of pros to work with. He thinks pros will adapt to the changes pretty quickly and be able to give solid feedback. Why don't they hire pros in the first place? | ||
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Leviance
Germany4079 Posts
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DwmC_Foefen
Belgium2186 Posts
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starrrrlight
Denmark18 Posts
the things that are pushing esports is a passion _AND_ money. just passion doesnt go very far in the world we live in. blizzard will lose money if they implement lan mode, and that will take away motivation to continue developing and improving already released products. @blizzard; thank you for everything, i look forward to paying the full amount for HotS aswell. | ||
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Warzilla
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BlindSC2
United Kingdom435 Posts
On October 22 2011 18:40 (Max 20 chars) wrote: I'm wondering since month and going to ask now: Will there be consequences? I mean Bnet was bad and hated even before the game was out. Millions of things were on their 'list'. There are monthly issues in tournaments because of missing LAN. Nothing is done, just lots of talking. But like in politics there comes the election time. You can vote with your wallet. Will you (basically everyone who bought WoL) just keep on talking and complaning or will there be consequences? I'm asking, as for my part, I definitely won't buy Starcraft HotS and most likely no further Bnet controlled games. I bought WoL and was hoping for the promised and even more as I could believe they were serious about this Bnet thing and they would fix it soon. I read complains over complain. An endless stream of issues. I feel the same way but never wrote about it. I just made my decision over the past month. Will you buy HotS and just keep complaining or do you have something else in mind? I'm just wondering if I'm the only one that actually acts and everyone else just keeps talking but agreeing to everything by voting with their wallet. Or if there are lots of people acting and just not talking about that they are. 'The best argument against democracy is a five minute discussion with the average voter' - Winston Churchill. That applies no matter the standing you take, no matter the beliefs you uphold, no matter which side of the political (or buying/not buying in this case) spectrum you lie, the majority of the people who decide are, in respect to the subject being 'voted' on, idiots. That's not to say you're an idiot if you don't buy HotS, or that you're an idiot if you do, just that actual reasoning, logic and proper argumentation for a particular standpoint wont sway the idiotic majority. [Paraphrasing] 'Wise men do not debate with fools, as from a distance it is difficult to tell which is which'. Those two quotes sum up politics, or the majority of all debates, for me today. Anyways, some pretty expected answers, we might do it..... eventually. All we can really expect. Is there a 'fixed' date for the HotS release being announced at Bcon? I know it wont be actually fixed but something to look forward to. | ||
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