Gretech and KeSPA Deadlocked - Page 5
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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Scorcher2k
United States802 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
On June 09 2010 09:06 TheElitists wrote: Blizzard Side: An organization that has openly broken IP laws in the past is intending to ignore the law again. They refuse to give an inch because they want to make all the money and have control over a game they didn't create or have permission from the creators to use. Awesome. KeSPA fanboys: Some vague conspiracy theory that Blizzard is trying to kill their own game in order to force a game that is already insanely popular before release to dominate airtime. Occam's razer suggests... Well, don't forget to include the part where Blizzard didn't bother to assert their so-called IP rights until SC2 was about to come out. On June 09 2010 08:55 deo1 wrote: If Gretech is successful in running it's own sc1/2 league, Kespa's life ban over the gambling scandal participants will be null in void. We might just see Mr. Ma playing again in the future ![]() Any "success" from Gretech would likely be an online-only broadcast which would attract far less of an audience and be far less successful than pro-BW as it is now. | ||
Tristan
Canada566 Posts
On June 09 2010 09:07 MadJack wrote: Im sorry, but blizzard didnt put an awesome games in the hands of koreans, or any gamer at all, they sold them the game, a game that they forgot and never had hopes of being something out of the ordinary cuz it didnt gave them much income. Starcraft has been a "phenomenon" since 2001 and yet Blizzard only saw its potential as an E-SPORT from 2007 and on, and try to claim what its legaly theirs, but moraly they have lost all rights to it. Its like having a kid and giving it to adoption and few years later try to take it back like nothing happened. And Starcraft its a full of bug's game, hard to play. Its not a great game for the look of any outsider. The game wouldnt have survived, if it werent for the comunity, korean and international, that worked hard to dominate such a hard and buggy game and make it an E-SPORT. It is the comunity that made what starcraft the wonderful game it is. By itself, starcraft would have died long ago with no hopes. However, even if the comunity didnt had such a great game to stablish itself on, it would have found ANY other game, and made it great, exactly as its happening with SC2. I bet that probably around 90% of the people playing SC2 wouldnt be so excitinly playing it if it werent for the name. It would be just other game. Blizzard help nothing to E-SPORTS until they saw the economic gains it could bring them. So, you are mad at Blizzard for lacking the power of divination? | ||
Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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iamho
United States3345 Posts
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Mojawi)SoJu
Korea (South)259 Posts
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tedster
984 Posts
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HeaDStrong
Scotland785 Posts
i think if kespa would have given up all their rights blizzard would still strongly push the whole scene towards their new product and promote sc2... well if any of my speculations come true, i truly hope people will turn away from blizzard and its activision bullshit... | ||
Merikh
United States918 Posts
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White_Wolf
United States7 Posts
Kespa is being extremely stubborn. Rather than communicate they are also trying to force their demands. They also want some money out of the progaming teams as well. [Most progaming teams (the ones not as famous) are treated extremely harsh and the players there get less than 30,000$ USD a year while the rest of the money goes into Kespa]. Kespa is refusing to believe that in the end they could be shut down completely. Gretech is just waiting and trying to get some money. We, as fans, can't do much but give our own opinions. We'll have to wait and see. Funny thing is when I heard of Starcraft 2 I thought everyone would be thrilled, but I guess Kespa isn't too happy along with a lot of other people. I'm not so happy anymore. Most of my thoughts could be wrong and can be challenged, but this is what I think. | ||
White_Wolf
United States7 Posts
On June 09 2010 09:32 Merikh wrote: I'm really confused at why people are mad at blizzard (they did make the game) [They made a great game, no game no kespa - no kespa no pro scene]. I'm new to the whole situation can someone enlighten me why kespa are being so stubborn? It seems more to it than signing some agreement and continuing what they were doing before. Blizzard said that they would shut down the progaming scene in Korea if their licenses etc. weren't respected. Though they did make the game, everyone has the right to be mad at Blizzard. All the progamers, Kespa, etc. made the game into what it is today though. Without the progaming scene, Starcraft would probably consist of D players everywhere. It wouldn't be known either. | ||
Silan
Denmark198 Posts
It also seems like chatroom rage have turned into blizzard rage, which now carries over to threads like this. Some people needs to relax and try to sort between facts and silly conspiracy theories (like Blizzard wanting to kill SC1). | ||
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Caos2
United States1728 Posts
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Prophecy3
Canada223 Posts
Through its negotiations with Blizzard, Gretech has acquired all rights to Blizzard's gaming industry in South Korea for the next three years, and in this situation as it stands no entity may host a Starcraft tournament without acquiring a sublicense from Gretech. Just curious if TL or any of the other tournaments like ZOTAC and HDH had to buy a sub-license from blizzard or anyone else? Hate KeSpa as much as you want, for all their obvious personal interests.. But ActivisionBlizzard is doing the exact same. But nowhere in any of this is the Fans Interests.. Blizzard has already taken away Chat Rooms and Cross Realm Play to reduce communication between individuals, it seems like a logical step to lock down and control the most devoted 'market' (fans).. Seems like a logical Next step to do the same globally.. Hey.. Hey... Just sayin'.. | ||
InTheFade
United States1721 Posts
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Mr.Pyro
Denmark959 Posts
KeSPA made a lot of money off of starcraft, now Blizzard has decided they've mooched enough off of their product and developed services, KeSPA should take what they can get, but in the end it all comes down to greed. | ||
ChaosShadow
United States79 Posts
On June 09 2010 09:42 Prophecy3 wrote: Through its negotiations with Blizzard, Gretech has acquired all rights to Blizzard's gaming industry in South Korea for the next three years, and in this situation as it stands no entity may host a Starcraft tournament without acquiring a sublicense from Gretech. Just curious if TL or any of the other tournaments like ZOTAC and HDH had to buy a sub-license from blizzard or anyone else? All tournaments run with a sponsor had to get approval from blizzard, i don't know the specifics, but i know they all had to email blizzs esports department with certain information for approval. | ||
Harpoon
Philippines93 Posts
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[Fin]Vittu
Canada507 Posts
can someone please summarize this for me? User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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