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mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
June 01 2010 12:15 GMT
#541
What if one day Blizz decide to "take over" tl.net using the same IP right bull****? After all, contents in this site is mostly generated using Blizz IP. If they suceed with Kespa, then there will be no stopping them to take over anything at anytime they want.

Blizz does not want to share with the comunity, they want the whole cake.
Maaku
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom142 Posts
June 01 2010 12:19 GMT
#542
On June 01 2010 21:15 mmdmmd wrote:
What if one day Blizz decide to "take over" tl.net using the same IP right bull****? After all, contents in this site is mostly generated using Blizz IP. If they suceed with Kespa, then there will be no stopping them to take over anything at anytime they want.

Blizz does not want to share with the comunity, they want the whole cake.


Would be near enough impossible to do.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7878 Posts
June 01 2010 12:25 GMT
#543
On June 01 2010 21:19 Maaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 21:15 mmdmmd wrote:
What if one day Blizz decide to "take over" tl.net using the same IP right bull****? After all, contents in this site is mostly generated using Blizz IP. If they suceed with Kespa, then there will be no stopping them to take over anything at anytime they want.

Blizz does not want to share with the comunity, they want the whole cake.


Would be near enough impossible to do.

That's true, but with the same logic, they could ask TL to remove all the vods from the nevake account. I guess they wouldn't make money out of it, so they probably won't, but as soon as that may be in their interest you can say goodbye to nevake youtube account.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
gyth
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
657 Posts
June 01 2010 13:04 GMT
#544
Would be near enough impossible to do.

TL is more above the law than kespa in korea???
The plural of anecdote is not data.
Xinliben
Profile Joined May 2009
United States931 Posts
June 01 2010 13:15 GMT
#545
I can't read all 28 pages but just want to say after reading that Activision-Blizzard thread and personally being exposed to the.....abortion that is Bnet2.0 my views on blizzard and how they view their fans has changed considerably. I don't know when it happened, but overtime I lost a friend in blizzard.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery"
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
June 01 2010 13:16 GMT
#546
I wrote a big rant, but I think what it basically comes down to is:

Fuck you, Blizzard.

It's clear the philosophy is no longer 'by gamers for gamers.' Any gamer would think their game being made into a legitimate sport is more important than making a little more money. If Blizzard takes over eSports, it's no longer legitimate, because eSports will hang in the balance of how long Blizzard feels it's profitable... which isn't exactly reliable.

Imagine Blizzard were just one guy, and KeSPA were just one guy. Blizzard is some budding artist who's really good at what he does, but doesn't really get that much recognition. KeSPA busts his ass helping his friend promote himself and Blizzard becomes insanely famous and rich. Now Blizzard just feels like forgetting about what KeSPA did for him and is going to kick him on the street.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
GrazerRinge
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
999 Posts
June 01 2010 13:20 GMT
#547
It seems money rules the whole world...sadly...
I mean, it's obvious that Blizzard has tons of money, but they just can't get enough, huh?
SC is now more than 10y old, i think it would be better when Bliz concentrates on SC2 and its marketing than seeking for every cent they get pull out from SC because so many people still plays it!
"Successful people don't talk much. They listen and take action."
finalboss
Profile Joined May 2010
United States39 Posts
June 01 2010 13:51 GMT
#548
"Q: Does KeSPA does not recognize Blizzard's IP rights at all?
- Fundamentally Sports are not something to be tackled using Intellectual Property. Does Adidas, who makes Soccer balls, demand usage fees from the World Cup? Similarly, car companies do not ask for usage fees from racing car contests."

That might be the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
June 01 2010 14:13 GMT
#549
lol yeah... KesPA.. not so good at arguing your case.
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ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
June 01 2010 15:26 GMT
#550
On June 01 2010 21:25 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 21:19 Maaku wrote:
On June 01 2010 21:15 mmdmmd wrote:
What if one day Blizz decide to "take over" tl.net using the same IP right bull****? After all, contents in this site is mostly generated using Blizz IP. If they suceed with Kespa, then there will be no stopping them to take over anything at anytime they want.

Blizz does not want to share with the comunity, they want the whole cake.


Would be near enough impossible to do.

That's true, but with the same logic, they could ask TL to remove all the vods from the nevake account. I guess they wouldn't make money out of it, so they probably won't, but as soon as that may be in their interest you can say goodbye to nevake youtube account.

After reading these, I imagined Blizzard as some legion of demons tearing up the village of ESPORTS.
Marke
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden279 Posts
June 01 2010 16:21 GMT
#551
TL;DR

User was temp banned for this post.
Det är inte lätt när det är svårt
dranjam
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland198 Posts
June 01 2010 16:23 GMT
#552
On June 01 2010 21:25 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 21:19 Maaku wrote:
On June 01 2010 21:15 mmdmmd wrote:
What if one day Blizz decide to "take over" tl.net using the same IP right bull****? After all, contents in this site is mostly generated using Blizz IP. If they suceed with Kespa, then there will be no stopping them to take over anything at anytime they want.

Blizz does not want to share with the comunity, they want the whole cake.


Would be near enough impossible to do.

That's true, but with the same logic, they could ask TL to remove all the vods from the nevake account. I guess they wouldn't make money out of it, so they probably won't, but as soon as that may be in their interest you can say goodbye to nevake youtube account.

And that's fokn scary, as it is probably true.

Blizzard only cares about money, so Im with KESPA all the way. Those profit driven corporations give humanity a bad name.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight with you, then you win.
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
June 01 2010 16:30 GMT
#553
On June 02 2010 01:21 Marke wrote:
TL;DR


Why did you even bother posting this.
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PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
June 01 2010 16:51 GMT
#554
On June 02 2010 01:21 Marke wrote:
TL;DR


Thanks for the contribution!

KeSPA is only speaking this way so they can stay in the game.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
dranjam
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland198 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 17:08:46
June 01 2010 17:06 GMT
#555
KESPA is staying in this game regardless, they are government body and it's up to them to rate the game, and if it's gonna be rated 18+ it will not be a success in Korea and it will suck as esport.

Game is a tool with which you express your skill, Blizzard trying to own a game YOU played, is like manufacturer of a hammer trying to take ownage of a house YOU build with it. How can that sound reasonable to anyone?
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight with you, then you win.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
June 01 2010 17:10 GMT
#556
On June 02 2010 02:06 dranjam wrote:
KESPA is staying in this game regardless, they are government body and it's up to them to rate the game, and if it's gonna be rated 18+ it will not be a success in Korea and it will suck as esport.

Game is a tool with which you express your skill, Blizzard trying to own a game YOU played, is like manufacturer of a hammer trying to take ownage of a house YOU build with it. How can that sound reasonable to anyone?


No, thats terrible analogy.

And it doesn't sound reasonable, because thats insane.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
June 01 2010 17:30 GMT
#557
I see a lot of people comparing Starcraft to a soccer ball, which doesn't make sense to me. I think it's more accurate to say Blizzard owning Starcraft would be akin to another company producing the balls, stadiums, fans (arguable), majority of players, rules of the game, and changes to the game. Kespa is the referee, or the individual owner of the teams.
Don't believe in yourself, believe in me, who believes in you.
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
June 01 2010 17:45 GMT
#558
On June 01 2010 22:51 finalboss wrote:
"Q: Does KeSPA does not recognize Blizzard's IP rights at all?
- Fundamentally Sports are not something to be tackled using Intellectual Property. Does Adidas, who makes Soccer balls, demand usage fees from the World Cup? Similarly, car companies do not ask for usage fees from racing car contests."

That might be the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life

Actually, it makes perfect sense. The overreaching scope of MP (Monopoly Privileges) in our current system is what is dumb here.

It is ridiculous that there is even this discussion. Blizzard should play its part, make the game, and be happy about the sales figures - not attempt to control the entire industry.
Caution! Future approaching rapidly at a rate of about 60 seconds per minute.
Ome
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada157 Posts
June 01 2010 18:34 GMT
#559
On June 02 2010 02:45 Phrujbaz wrote:

Actually, it makes perfect sense. The overreaching scope of MP (Monopoly Privileges) in our current system is what is dumb here.

It is ridiculous that there is even this discussion. Blizzard should play its part, make the game, and be happy about the sales figures - not attempt to control the entire industry.


It makes no sense - Adidas did not create football, whereas Blizzard created Starcraft 2.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 01 2010 18:45 GMT
#560
Wow, many of you fail at interrupting and applying analogies. I thought it was pretty straightforward.

The soccer ball in this case is a tool/instrument the artist/athlete use to create art/entertainment. I tried to make it as straightforward as possible.

You are an artist. You use Adobe Photoshop. You bought it at a store. After you've been marginally successful after 10 years, Adobe sends you a letter stating they should have ownership of your artwork and they want a cut.

I think that speaks for itself.
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