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Falcynn
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Ziel
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On March 19 2008 07:25 fusionsdf wrote: suspicioussss....empy edited post! | ||
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Pangolin
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Are we waiting for most people to vote before closing polls or is there some kind of time limit? | ||
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Falcynn
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Kau
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On March 20 2008 00:53 Pangolin wrote: If he is able to tell us why he is pardoning somebody and the town agrees I don't see why we shouldn't allow him to pardon people, the same as any pardoner. Are we waiting for most people to vote before closing polls or is there some kind of time limit? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925¤tpage=18#348 Have you tried reading this? | ||
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Pangolin
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On March 20 2008 00:56 Kau wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925¤tpage=18#348 Have you tried reading this? Well I just reread it and now I understand. Before I thought that "A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that" meant that the polls would be closed yesterday. Now I remember the mayor is announced in the night. Thanks for helping me clear that up. | ||
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dinmsab
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Ziel
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On March 19 2008 09:09 Kau wrote: What I'm saying is that the pm is sent to every real bodyguard. Say there are 3 bodyguards. 3 pms would be sent out: Mafia 1 Mafia 2 Bodyguard 1 Mafia 1 Mafia 2 Bodyguard 2 Mafia 1 Mafia 2 Bodyguard 3 Each bodyguard would then get pms back from Mafia 1 and 2 and thus are "confirmed". And about fake detectives springing forward and stating the mayor is innocent, the townies have no way of knowing who is telling the truth and who isn't. We can't know when a real detective steps forward because he could very well be fake. WOW. This is a big flaw in the DT plan -_- And I dont see any way we can go around it if we have a mafia major. We need to seriously rethink what the mayor's backup plans are gonna be in his first 100 days in office! I'm starting to have suspicions with Ace, because despite his sound arguments right up to this post, he's persistent in that this flaw isn't even there (if Im correct from what I've read of his posts) :O And to the person that suggested the idea that we a detective should come up, WHO would the brave soul be? And we have no way of verifying it's true! (Unless more detectives come up..but that would be plain stupid). Though it seems its the most solid plan we have now, having to lose even one DT for this plan...The worst case scenario is that the mafias have taught out a real good plan to mess this up and we're not seeing it...Bah I dont even know if Im making much sense now...better reread some posts again. | ||
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Falcynn
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On March 20 2008 01:13 Ziel wrote: WOW. This is a big flaw in the DT plan -_- And I dont see any way we can go around it if we have a mafia major. We need to seriously rethink what the mayor's backup plans are gonna be in his first 100 days in office! I'm starting to have suspicions with Ace, because despite his sound arguments right up to this post, he's persistent in that this flaw isn't even there (if Im correct from what I've read of his posts) :O And to the person that suggested the idea that we a detective should come up, WHO would the brave soul be? And we have no way of verifying it's true! (Unless more detectives come up..but that would be plain stupid). Though it seems its the most solid plan we have now, having to lose even one DT for this plan...The worst case scenario is that the mafias have taught out a real good plan to mess this up and we're not seeing it...Bah I dont even know if Im making much sense now...better reread some posts again. We've gone over this a bunch of times already. A detective will check out the mayor, if he's mafia then the detective will post his findings. After that we lynch the detective, if he turns blue then we lynch the mayor (we lynch the detective to deter mafiosos from spreading false rumors and declaring themselves detective). Edit: and dinmsab, you have to post your votes in Chuiu's blog, not here. | ||
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Pangolin
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On March 20 2008 01:13 Ziel wrote: WOW. This is a big flaw in the DT plan -_- And I dont see any way we can go around it if we have a mafia major. We need to seriously rethink what the mayor's backup plans are gonna be in his first 100 days in office! I'm starting to have suspicions with Ace, because despite his sound arguments right up to this post, he's persistent in that this flaw isn't even there (if Im correct from what I've read of his posts) :O And to the person that suggested the idea that we a detective should come up, WHO would the brave soul be? And we have no way of verifying it's true! (Unless more detectives come up..but that would be plain stupid). Though it seems its the most solid plan we have now, having to lose even one DT for this plan...The worst case scenario is that the mafias have taught out a real good plan to mess this up and we're not seeing it...Bah I dont even know if Im making much sense now...better reread some posts again. Yes I think you need to reread some posts because not only did Ace show that it wasn't a hole, Kau (the one who posted the "flaw") admitted it wasn't actually a flaw. The reason being that detectives are going to check if the mayor is mafia anyways. | ||
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Ziel
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GeneralStan
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Ace
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On March 19 2008 22:21 Klive5ive wrote: We need to call Empyrean out. I'll start by saying I think it is very likely he is a detective. Everyone should be assumed innocent until CLUES or obvious circumstances cast serious doubt over them. The mistake made last time was to assume the people who posted frequently were Mafia, purely because they said things that were silly/didn't make sense. Just because people are stupid or play the game badly doesn't mean they are Mafia. In light of this the best way to go about it in my opinion is to NOT ALLOW HIM TO USE HIS PARDONING POWERS. By that I mean we simply state that he is not allowed to pardon anyone. IF he does, then he will be assumed Mafia and we simply lynch him next round. If enough people agree that this is a good idea we can get the benefits of a possible pardoner-detective without the disadvantages of a mafia-pardoner saving mafia. This makes no sense, and I'll explain why. 1.) Saying that Empyrean is likely detective is pointless - no one's roles can be proved 2.) No one should be assumed innocent, or guilty - the only assumption anyone knows at all right now is that they can trust no one if they are a Townie 3.) I agree, just because people play badly or dumb doesn't make them Mafia - but it surely doesn't make them worthy for candidacy of Mayor or Pardoner 4.) No one is accusing anyone of being Mafia right now 5.) Not allow him to use his Pardoning powers? If he gets the role, we cant exactly force him not toby threat of lynching. Anyone who has played this game enough knows that a threat like that can be smashed into pieces if a much bigger disaster hits the Town because people "forget". | ||
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Ace
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Another thing, I'm sure the Mafia has read up on the Bodyguard plan and have seen something in it that makes it a little difficult to "break". I'm still asking that if anyone can find any scenarios that would mess the plan up to please post them.After the game I'll explain in depth the real reasoning behind the plan (can't do that now). | ||
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