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Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
March 19 2008 18:20 GMT
#1061
Heh Empyrean really should have considered the mafia's new roles before enacting his plan. Either way they screw him. If elected the saboteur ruins his detective ability and if not elected and protected by medics he, and all the medics, get blown to pieces by a suicide bomber.
It's easier not to.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 19 2008 18:24 GMT
#1062
Heh Empyrean really should have considered the mafia's new roles before enacting his plan.
If he did, the only logical conclusion is that he was he mafia candidate and is trying to soak medic time and potentially get pardoner/mayor before being discovered for real.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
HotZhot
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Colombia677 Posts
March 19 2008 18:37 GMT
#1063
On March 20 2008 03:07 Falcynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2008 02:45 HotZhot wrote:
Still many people inactive, I hope the important roles are all playing actively
Well judging from the votes, about 95 people have cast in their votes which equates to roughly 75%. So even if they're not posting, at least 75% of the people playing are at least reading the thread. It's not great, but it's much better than last game at least.


It's actually better than any other election process in the world :D
I only smile in the darK [] sAviOr//JaeDong Fan 4 Ever ~ CJ Entusman # 7
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
March 19 2008 18:48 GMT
#1064
On March 20 2008 03:37 HotZhot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2008 03:07 Falcynn wrote:
On March 20 2008 02:45 HotZhot wrote:
Still many people inactive, I hope the important roles are all playing actively
Well judging from the votes, about 95 people have cast in their votes which equates to roughly 75%. So even if they're not posting, at least 75% of the people playing are at least reading the thread. It's not great, but it's much better than last game at least.


It's actually better than any other election process in the world :D

Not to rain on your parade, but all countries aren't like the US. I know at least the last swedish public election had a 81,9% voting turnout.
This neo violence, pure self defiance
Ghar
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia62 Posts
March 19 2008 18:51 GMT
#1065
In Australia, voting is mandatory. Though I don't have statistics on the turn out rate,
All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time. View my public profile for links to my plan as mayor.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 19 2008 19:10 GMT
#1066
So I see we're on the road to killing Empyrean. Karma is a bitch... so is band wagoning lololol.
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
March 19 2008 19:11 GMT
#1067
On March 20 2008 03:51 Ghar wrote:
In Australia, voting is mandatory. Though I don't have statistics on the turn out rate,


Quite high I'm sure. We really need to make voting mandatory here. The confirmation post is supposed to ensure that people will at least get out once a day to vote, but it seems some people confirm and that's the extent of their participation.

BTW I think the latest vote tally is about:

Ace 29
Randombum 25
Empyrean 17

Anybody can confirm?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 19 2008 19:14 GMT
#1068
More like:
Ace Mayor
Randombum Pardoner
Empyrean soon to be dead
Ghar
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia62 Posts
March 19 2008 19:14 GMT
#1069
Now that Randombum is ahead of Empyrean. Ghar will swallow his pride and ask for sympathy votes because my ideas are cool.
All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time. View my public profile for links to my plan as mayor.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 19 2008 19:15 GMT
#1070
On March 20 2008 04:10 nemY wrote:
So I see we're on the road to killing Empyrean. Karma is a bitch... so is band wagoning lololol.


His own fault, claiming detective this soone was stupid. Whether it's true or not.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
Ghar
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia62 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-19 19:28:12
March 19 2008 19:27 GMT
#1071
There's a chance he won't get killed.
If he's mafia, he obviously won't get hit.
If he's not mafia. The mafia might let him live, making the townies suspicious, likely making us waste a lynching on Empyrean.
All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time. View my public profile for links to my plan as mayor.
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
March 19 2008 19:34 GMT
#1072
Figuring out for sure if Empyrean is mafia is fairly important. If he is it will be easy to figure out atleast where to look for a few more members.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
March 19 2008 19:38 GMT
#1073
On March 20 2008 04:10 nemY wrote:
So I see we're on the road to killing Empyrean. Karma is a bitch... so is band wagoning lololol.


You are assuming that empy is telling the truth. That assumption could cost the town a crap load if he isn't. The only way to prove he isn't mafia is if the real detectives step forward and say HEY we are detectives and he is lying. Either way its hurting the town.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 19 2008 19:44 GMT
#1074
By the way, I apologize to Vharox, I didn't even consider that it could be your brother, and you didn't seem like the kind to cheat when we were discussing last game.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
HotZhot
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Colombia677 Posts
March 19 2008 19:45 GMT
#1075
On March 20 2008 03:48 Hittegods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2008 03:37 HotZhot wrote:
On March 20 2008 03:07 Falcynn wrote:
On March 20 2008 02:45 HotZhot wrote:
Still many people inactive, I hope the important roles are all playing actively
Well judging from the votes, about 95 people have cast in their votes which equates to roughly 75%. So even if they're not posting, at least 75% of the people playing are at least reading the thread. It's not great, but it's much better than last game at least.


It's actually better than any other election process in the world :D

Not to rain on your parade, but all countries aren't like the US. I know at least the last swedish public election had a 81,9% voting turnout.


Yeah, should have said most, because they usually range in the 40-50s
I only smile in the darK [] sAviOr//JaeDong Fan 4 Ever ~ CJ Entusman # 7
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
March 19 2008 19:45 GMT
#1076
On March 20 2008 04:34 Wysp wrote:
Figuring out for sure if Empyrean is mafia is fairly important. If he is it will be easy to figure out atleast where to look for a few more members.


Easy to solve. Get a (or some) detectives to investigate me, and report their findings directly to Ace.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2008 19:52 GMT
#1077
Yep Detectives will after confirming my Innocence investigate Empyrean and let me know if he's innocent.

Also, this is not a lynch Empyrean moment - nemy stop posting nonsense. Confusion like that only hurts the town.

The focus of the town is:

1.) Get a Mayor and Pardoner
2.) Mayor uses first lynch
3.) Investigate myself,empyrean and randombum
4.) Enact the Bodyguard Plan

Hopefully I still get Mayor, randombum is catching up

*Makes dirty campaign adds slandering randombum's name*
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
BlindAlbino
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Ecuador176 Posts
March 19 2008 19:55 GMT
#1078
ace that seems very flawed. How will you know the other detectives besides empyrean is telling the truth? they would have to reveal themselves for this to happen.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
March 19 2008 19:56 GMT
#1079
On March 20 2008 01:32 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2008 22:21 Klive5ive wrote:
We need to call Empyrean out.

I'll start by saying I think it is very likely he is a detective. Everyone should be assumed innocent until CLUES or obvious circumstances cast serious doubt over them.
The mistake made last time was to assume the people who posted frequently were Mafia, purely because they said things that were silly/didn't make sense.
Just because people are stupid or play the game badly doesn't mean they are Mafia.

In light of this the best way to go about it in my opinion is to NOT ALLOW HIM TO USE HIS PARDONING POWERS.
By that I mean we simply state that he is not allowed to pardon anyone. IF he does, then he will be assumed Mafia and we simply lynch him next round.
If enough people agree that this is a good idea we can get the benefits of a possible pardoner-detective without the disadvantages of a mafia-pardoner saving mafia.


This makes no sense, and I'll explain why.

1.) Saying that Empyrean is likely detective is pointless - no one's roles can be proved

2.) No one should be assumed innocent, or guilty - the only assumption anyone knows at all right now is that they can trust no one if they are a Townie

3.) I agree, just because people play badly or dumb doesn't make them Mafia - but it surely doesn't make them worthy for candidacy of Mayor or Pardoner

4.) No one is accusing anyone of being Mafia right now

5.) Not allow him to use his Pardoning powers? If he gets the role, we cant exactly force him not toby threat of lynching. Anyone who has played this game enough knows that a threat like that can be smashed into pieces if a much bigger disaster hits the Town because people "forget".


1.) He has a 11/13 chance of being a towny (and therefore probably a DT), I consider that decent odds.

2.) Assumed innocent until reasonable doubt is actually a pretty good way to play the game, particularly at the start, and i have played before.

3.) I didn't say he was.

4.) ?

5.) If we managed to get enough people we could. You are implying that you think it's a good idea but hard to enforce, that's why I was trying to urge people to agree to it.

I still think that the Pardoner role is dangerous in the hands of the Mafia and a decent way to guard against it would be to petition the Pardoner to let the townie vote stand before the game begins.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 19 2008 19:57 GMT
#1080
On March 20 2008 04:45 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2008 04:34 Wysp wrote:
Figuring out for sure if Empyrean is mafia is fairly important. If he is it will be easy to figure out atleast where to look for a few more members.


Easy to solve. Get a (or some) detectives to investigate me, and report their findings directly to Ace.


That isn't as easy as it sounds. There are multiple detectives, so if a mafia comes forward saying you are or are not, then we will have to mistrust this detective. I don't want to lose all our detectives even if we take out an even number of mafia as well. Detectives are too valuable. If Empyrean isn't mafia, he's gonna be dead soon, probably along with alot of meds. Either way, Emp you are either an foolish but brave townie, or a inconsiderate genius mafia. Knowing you, It's the latter.
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