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On March 20 2008 04:55 BlindAlbino wrote:
ace that seems very flawed. How will you know the other detectives besides empyrean is telling the truth? they would have to reveal themselves for this to happen.
First they investigate Ace, and one detective will probably publicly announce Ace's innocence. Then they'll just PM Ace. Or they can immediately PM Ace and assume he's town, while other detectives confirm his role. If he's town, they'll be silent. If he's mafia, they'll sound the alarms.
And finally, if I do die this night, I'd like to just post one thing after my death.
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nemY: I have a feeling you're mafia, but obviously I can't really accuse you of anything at the moment. You know why? Because I started the same thing you're trying to do last game.
After L2W failed in his protection of alventenie, I started the whole "he revealed his role, but he's not actually paramedic!" bandwagon that got him lynched.
So at the moment, shut up and watch the game unfold.
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empyrean that is still flawed. that is assuming that one of the detectives will want to sacrifice himself(or lure paramedics) just to prove ace's innocence. as far as im concerned ace is pretty innocent
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Publicly announcing innocence is a bad idea. You put one out there for the killing. And you're not sure he's a legit detective. Detectives should confirm by silence.
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On March 20 2008 04:58 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2008 04:55 BlindAlbino wrote:
ace that seems very flawed. How will you know the other detectives besides empyrean is telling the truth? they would have to reveal themselves for this to happen. And finally, if I do die this night, I'd like to just post one thing after my death.
Be sure that it's 100% seriuz buzinez or people will start bitching at you for ages.
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I posted my thoughts in a blog because it was long and in response to two other peoples thoughts...
CLICK HERE
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also if that is against the rules i will post it here as well...
I'm not completely sure if it is ok to post in a blog as opposed to in the actual forum.
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On March 20 2008 04:44 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
By the way, I apologize to Vharox, I didn't even consider that it could be your brother, and you didn't seem like the kind to cheat when we were discussing last game.
Forgiven :-P <3
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On March 20 2008 04:55 BlindAlbino wrote:
ace that seems very flawed. How will you know the other detectives besides empyrean is telling the truth? they would have to reveal themselves for this to happen.
If you mean about the plan, the Detectives confirm my innocence by staying silent.
If any of the Detectives speak up and say I'm Mafia, then one of us has to be lying.
We lynch the DT, if he is Mafia it was just a plan to try and get the town to lynch me first.
If he is innocent, I'm obviously Mafia and the Town would lynch me when his death reveals his innocence.
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i really think that empyrean isnt mafia. Sadly, if he ends non-pardoner or mayor, meds are taking a big risk at protecting him, due to suicide bomber. ;(. Empyrean played a GG last game, i think he should get pardonership because mayorship is probably taken by ace by now. Another bad point is that saboteur would probably block empyrean's role .
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On March 20 2008 05:06 Vharox wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2008 04:44 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
By the way, I apologize to Vharox, I didn't even consider that it could be your brother, and you didn't seem like the kind to cheat when we were discussing last game. Forgiven :-P <3
About that, I seriously don't see the reason why they would cheat in this game, so I vote we don't remove either of them from the game.
And stop accusing people of being mafia, we can't tell so far who is and who isn't. The only reasons to do it now is to cause more confusion amongst the town members and that is something town members should not try to do.
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Oh, just for the record, when somebody dies, and their towny, EVERYONE! should go read their posts. Since they are posts of the utmost sincerity, we can't afford for a mafia to go mangle information in such a large thread where important facts can be missed even by the most vigilant townies. Together we can catch any and all hints! Especially me. Read my stuff after I'm dead <3
HOORAAA!
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On March 20 2008 05:08 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
i really think that empyrean isnt mafia. Sadly, if he ends non-pardoner or mayor, meds are taking a big risk at protecting him, due to suicide bomber. ;(. Empyrean played a GG last game, i think he should get pardonership because mayorship is probably taken by ace by now. Another bad point is that saboteur would probably block empyrean's role .
yea, which is why I said that early role claim, whether or not Empyrean is Innocent just put us in a really shitty spot :/
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On March 20 2008 05:08 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2008 04:55 BlindAlbino wrote:
ace that seems very flawed. How will you know the other detectives besides empyrean is telling the truth? they would have to reveal themselves for this to happen. If you mean about the plan, the Detectives confirm my innocence by staying silent. If any of the Detectives speak up and say I'm Mafia, then one of us has to be lying. We lynch the DT, if he is Mafia it was just a plan to try and get the town to lynch me first. If he is innocent, I'm obviously Mafia and the Town would lynch me when his death reveals his innocence.
As an extension of this the detectives would not have to reveal themselves to reveal Empyrean because they would just tell Ace who would then tell the townies.
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On March 20 2008 05:09 Lenwe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2008 05:06 Vharox wrote:On March 20 2008 04:44 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
By the way, I apologize to Vharox, I didn't even consider that it could be your brother, and you didn't seem like the kind to cheat when we were discussing last game. Forgiven :-P <3 About that, I seriously don't see the reason why they would cheat in this game, so I vote we don't remove either of them from the game. And stop accusing people of being mafia, we can't tell so far who is and who isn't. The only reasons to do it now is to cause more confusion amongst the town members and that is something town members should not try to do. Noone's trying to get anyone lynched at this point. The only reason people are trying to figure out if Empyrean is mafia or not is because he's running for mayor and obviously a mafia mayor would be bad (and they're not even trying to be certain about his affiliation, only his likeliness of being mafia). All the other people interpreting clues aren't doing it because they're trying to get those people lynched, they're just getting some sleuthing started so that when more clues come in we can cross reference them with what we've already gathered. No harm in that.
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On March 20 2008 05:14 Falcynn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2008 05:09 Lenwe wrote:On March 20 2008 05:06 Vharox wrote:On March 20 2008 04:44 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
By the way, I apologize to Vharox, I didn't even consider that it could be your brother, and you didn't seem like the kind to cheat when we were discussing last game. Forgiven :-P <3 About that, I seriously don't see the reason why they would cheat in this game, so I vote we don't remove either of them from the game. And stop accusing people of being mafia, we can't tell so far who is and who isn't. The only reasons to do it now is to cause more confusion amongst the town members and that is something town members should not try to do. Noone's trying to get anyone lynched at this point. The only reason people are trying to figure out if Empyrean is mafia or not is because he's running for mayor and obviously a mafia mayor would be bad (and they're not even trying to be certain about his affiliation, only his likeliness of being mafia). All the other people interpreting clues aren't doing it because they're trying to get those people lynched, they're just getting some sleuthing started so that when more clues come in we can cross reference them with what we've already gathered. No harm in that.
You are right, I read back to about 10 pages again and I thought I saw more accusations, but there are actually only very few so far. And I agree about not getting emp in a position of power as can be seen by my earlier posts.
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yea but what makes you think they will call you out as mafia if they know that will happen? what if the detective knows you are mafia but just stays silent for his own greed? that is what im getting at.
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On March 20 2008 05:27 BlindAlbino wrote:
yea but what makes you think they will call you out as mafia if they know that will happen? what if the detective knows you are mafia but just stays silent for his own greed? that is what im getting at. Then that person would be a greedy asshole and everyone will continue to insult him throughout the rest of the game, and through the rest of the next game if he plays there.
Plus, if they sacrifice themselves I'll photoshop a memorial plaque for them or something. 
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On March 20 2008 05:27 BlindAlbino wrote:
yea but what makes you think they will call you out as mafia if they know that will happen? what if the detective knows you are mafia but just stays silent for his own greed? that is what im getting at.
That would literally be like, the dumbest thing ever for a detective to do. Way too selfish.
All it takes is ONE detective to call me out. If one of them calls me out then all the others can stay silent and watch the proceedings.
I also hope that when people find out I really am Innocent as Mayor, they PM me their roles and any other relevant info. I've already started making lists of info.
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Yeah seriously any detective who is able to get a mafia mayor lynched, even at the expense of his own life, is basically the hero of the game.
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