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I am suprised that there are so few pages to catch up, was expexting more. | ||
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On June 08 2024 08:17 AlphaZero wrote: I’ll lynch vivax with you oats. Vote:vivax Is first time you play with vivax? I am used to always read vivax first because for me are 2 option with vivax first when i am mafia I have to get him out of the game as fast as possibole second is if i am town he is still the "easiest" read for me. If vivax is mafia he just posting random shit, jokes, memes, off the topic stuff and hating the government of austria if he is Town he actually trys to tell us his opinion, try to find scummy shit, beeing paranoid about chez but he is not in the game and hating the government of austria. For me he looks like Town (atm) you have any other scum reads? | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:12 scott31337 wrote: Then don't unless you are Mafia with DP/AZ Even if I get mislynched (But I'm a lot better at defending than I was as a newb) it'll give town plenty of info to work with. can you link me an old game where you rolled a mafia role? (not Newbie Student Mafia VIII your filter and game was to small to compare it or get anything about how you play as mafia) | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:10 AlphaZero wrote: [b]unvote: Vote:Scott /b] why did you change your vote so fast? | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:26 rsoultin wrote: gdit i'm losing my fucking mind, it was az not you uff i don´t why this makes you a bit townie for me. a fucking bs mistake what just feels so green for me. But i need more to make actuall reads. whats you opinion on az? | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:22 scott31337 wrote: I'd recommend the database. Remember these were eight plus years ago too. https://tl.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database There's only four (Three if you throw out the one you are talking about) https://tl.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=474146&user=scott31337&view=all https://tl.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=498066&user=scott31337&view=all And this one I remember was weak too (lynched day 1) https://tl.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=485267&user=scott31337&view=all thanks | ||
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are you handsome as well? I feel something cold on my neck when I am reading your posts | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:37 Trfel wrote: Theoretically yes, but that's not how I read it. I guess I don't put much weight in the idea that scum say little things to look like they're present without actually doing anything. Or rather, I think town ends up with similar posts pretty often, especially at the start of the game. It's just hard for me to say with any confidence that this is a scum trait. Maybe for strong town players it could be scummy, but I see this from less confident town players all the time. I also don't think that the way scott31337 posted came from a mafia motivated mindset. Like, why would scott31337 be more inclined to make that series of posts as mafia than as town? I guess I just don't get it. Don't misunderstand, I don't think scott31337's posts make any sense, but I don't think they make sense in a mafia way, more just a general illogical way. I think you are right. I was reading a few games from him mafia and town. He were making small bs in town games as well but also the games I was reading were old. He should not be a d1 vote in my opinion | ||
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I hope so | ||
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Are you looking for the weakest players again like in your last mafia game? | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:52 rsoultin wrote: do you feel vivax is one of the weakest players in this game? this is a genuine question because i wouldn't normally consider him a weak player in a vacuum, at least as town No not at all. V already played a lot of mafia games on many different websides and some of that are really good. It´s just my thing that I am always try to read him first. And this was more like a general question to oats, because in his last game (mafia Oats) just posted kill dmb. vote dmb. scum dmb... and he came almost through with this bs on just hitting on the weak players, newbe or how ever you want to call me | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:57 Oatsmaster wrote: I’d go after you no? Why would I go after vivax? Answer the question please I just wanted to remind you you cannot make the same bs twice | ||
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On June 08 2024 10:02 rsoultin wrote: okay, who i'm not lynching today: scott, oats, truffle, mocsta, marv my weakest townreads of those is scott but i get where he's coming from on too many things and i don't like too many people pushing him everything else is negotiable. i think i'd prefer to lynch into sandy, kelsier and viva rayn and az i'm not comfy with but don't want to lynch cause i don't trust i'm not just being overly paranoid with them slam and dmb i don't particularly care about though i'm inclined to sheep marv's sheeping rayn on the slam read why don´t you care about me  | ||
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On June 08 2024 10:06 rsoultin wrote: cause you haven't posted enough for me to get any sort of read on? i'll let you know if and when that changes why do you think you are paranoid about az? I have this problem with rayn that in every fucking game that we are playing I am reading him wrong. He is mafia I think he is town and the other way around. So it´s really very hard for me to make a opinion on him and i am Paranoid as hell as soon as I think i found his aligment. He is a strong town player but sadly also a strong mafia player. I am scared to make a read on him especially when it´s this early in the game | ||
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On June 08 2024 10:13 rsoultin wrote: i mean the having icky vibes off az i can identify with but maybe your time would be better spent catching up if you're just throwing shade at oats because he was pushing you as mafia in an earlier game I am not pushing him as mafia(atm). i just wanted to remind him that some things should not be done twice | ||
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On June 08 2024 10:21 rsoultin wrote: lol same regarding rayn well az reminds me of another player whose scum game consists of buddying top townies (and by this i mean the 'good players' the community here generally listens to) and crawling so far up their asses he goes under the radar. idk that this is the same player but the interchange with marv is giving me those vibes. tbc marv is good, but i guess i mean the people who have the most pull if people are reading them town now i don't know that az's the same person or not so that's not reason enough to scumread him at all. but his view of the game also isn't aligning with mine on several fronts so those two things together earns him the rayn tier of i don't fucking know. i'm hoping if he's town that'll become clear in further discussion lol >< So you think you already know az but you are not sure if it´s the same person? Did i get that right? | ||
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can you link me an old game of you doesn´t matter if town or mafia just not paint mafia? (also doesn´t have to be on tl any website is okey) | ||
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On June 08 2024 10:30 rsoultin wrote: kinda? lol >< i know it's dumb if he weren't also trying to lynch someone i don't think is scum while declaring my strongest scumread top town it wouldn't factor in at all. genuine trauma response  the player in question has mislynched me...maybe even twice? definitely once. and i rarely get misylnched. while i was desperately trying to get his butt buddy to realize they were being hadno it´s not dumb. it def. makes it harder to read a person if you are paranoid about him...and thats a fucking good reason to be paranoid about him | ||
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On June 08 2024 10:38 Trfel wrote: Idk, I guesssss we could talk about AlphaZero but I don't think it'd be that helpful to talk about them today. I guess we still have over 24 hours but I'd kinda rather start to focus on lynch targets for Day 1. Unless you want to lynch AlphaZero today, in which case feel free to explain, but currently I think that is very unlikely to happen. Pls feel free to explain | ||
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On June 09 2024 05:59 marvellosity wrote: Inactivity of a few players is going to kill us here tbh. D1 hard enough without missing a handful. Sorry, I'll have more time tomorrow and will play properly. Besides, I'm not so happy with both wagons. | ||
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On June 09 2024 06:26 scott31337 wrote: Well you still need to vote too Who would you like to lynch today in a perfect world? Tbr i would like to lynch az. Also I hate the first lynch after it it always gets easier. Most of the time lynch 1 is misslynch anway. I am stucking at work with a group of austrian mafia, good that tomorrow they are gone. Scott i don't really townread you but for now I don't want to lynch, I rather take K who is more inactiv and I think it would be a more logical lynch. I am really sorry for beeing this inactiv today. Tomorrow I will be here ##vote k | ||
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On June 09 2024 08:45 AlphaZero wrote: Like what is this that keeps happening?? Why are people just removing Scott as a confidante like this. I may didn't read the thread perfectly from the last 10 hours because of my time Problem i have right now. But i was reading some old games from scott... town and mafia. The mafia games were kinda usless but the town stuff def. not | ||
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On June 09 2024 11:17 marvellosity wrote: Like do mafia actually post this?! It’s so banal no. I still think he actually town. Also his game is pretty simular too some old towngames from him. | ||
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the ninja vote from rayn I understand pls explain the rest | ||
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On June 09 2024 11:30 marvellosity wrote: This probably isn’t going to make sense but my brain went like this: Kelsier town. Okay I’m not surprised Am I wrong on Scott? Are my expectations incorrect here? If im wrong on Scott, what does that mean for my view of the game? Is AZ mafia? Like maybe, but also i think he does believe what he’s saying about Scott so probably not (so my brain is telling me Scott town apparently?) Then why is rsoul so comvinced that Scott is lynch bait? Is this TMI maybe? Then I don’t get to question rsoul on any of this Statistically speaking, there are almost always 2 townies in the first lynch wagons... and I think that's true here too | ||
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On June 09 2024 11:32 marvellosity wrote: I think the rsoul/Koshi spot is mafia tbh explain pls | ||
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On June 09 2024 11:35 scott31337 wrote: I just feel this is marv town thinking or we're screwed. This is the marv posting we need in daytime. Which sucks Keis flipped town now AZ is going to be on me more that I'm mafia. Just think realistically. maybe it´s town marv, but would town marv post like this in the night? | ||
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On June 09 2024 11:41 marvellosity wrote: I don’t get why she is so surefire convinced you are town (even if you are town) Do you understand what I’m saying? I am not "surefire" convinced that scott is town. I just think that he is less likley mafia and that on d1 mafia pushed two town wagons to be safe for the next lynch as well. So I rather take a look on who pushed that wagons the most or who started it, votecounts etc. | ||
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sorry I had 13 hour shift, with a lot of assholes who paid me a lot of drinks and I think I should maybe go to sleep as well and start tomorrow to reread the game | ||
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On June 09 2024 11:47 marvellosity wrote: Look if if I’m gonna play a bit drunk can people please try to make sense :p you are not the only drunk here. I am a bit drunk Vivax is even drunker and you are probably the drunkest | ||
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who the fuck ask that shit in the night? | ||
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On June 09 2024 12:07 Vivax wrote: Scott is never going to get lynched on D2, and he isn‘t going to get vigged either. Going by experience. Doesn‘t have to be a bad thing but it means we look for 2-3 outside of him. how about giving a look on ninja rayn or az | ||
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why are you not getting nk? Are you mafia? | ||
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On June 09 2024 12:12 Oatsmaster wrote: Yes I’m totally mafia and I just slipped that I can’t get night killed of course who are you mafia buddys? | ||
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On June 09 2024 12:17 Vivax wrote: With the Kelsier flip and if he‘s town, Scott starts becoming useful to mafia. Of course he is now usefull for mafia... still easy lynch material I am pretty sure we had t vs t lynch today. Thats a reason why he will not get nk tonight. But why do oats think that he wouldn´t get nk? | ||
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On June 09 2024 12:24 marvellosity wrote: Why would oats think he would? Let’s not be silly. Why are you sure scott is town, DMB? he made smal bs posts in his old town games as well, besides I already learned that in 4 out of 5 cases we have t vs t as lynch 1. He doesn´t have the best townread from me but for right now I think i is probably town | ||
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On June 09 2024 23:00 Mocsta wrote: Dmb wouldn't vote Scott It was literally in the post you last responded to me about I reckon dmb is not trying to solve the game and is scummy I try and i will even try more as soon as the people here getting activ. How the fuck should i find out who the fuck is mafia if half of the people not playing where is slam, sandro, rayn,..... guys come on pls write something here. | ||
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On June 09 2024 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote: This is just mafia yes? She has an entire day she hasn’t read and she is coming in here complaining about 3 players outta the 11 remaining not posting, curiously the same complaint as az and marv I am sorry that I wasn't playing yesterday because of work. I need some sleep and I will start as soon as the night is over. It's not smart to post lists or opinions on who is what in the night... | ||
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On June 10 2024 04:45 Vivax wrote: I have a sudden strong urge to be in an asylum and take fancy pills now that i know that the nazi politicians won the election today i need the pills urgently or whatever takes me to another universe | ||
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would love to go there finland, norway. I used to love iceland but since I got to know Palmar I don´t want to go there anymore  | ||
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he comes into the game. starts making reads straight away. Explains every single read. talks about illogical town/mafia reads from others again with good explanations. Is way too active to be mafia, because he usually puts in less “work” and rather joins other opinions as mafia | ||
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On June 10 2024 05:20 Vivax wrote: One cannot not like Koshi. He‘s the hypno-buddha in the flesh fewer and fewer town points for you. Maybe I have to reread you filter. you are paranoid about RL but not about the game. Thats kinda strange. I don´t like that | ||
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On June 10 2024 05:34 Vivax wrote: Excuse me but how does that post cost me town points ? it´s not about this post it´s in general like you are not paranoid enough about the game. | ||
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On June 10 2024 05:35 die_meatbaby wrote: it´s not about this post it´s in general like you are not paranoid enough about the game. maybe in the start of the game but no it feels wrong or like you faking something. Babe are lying to me? what did your pm say? | ||
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On June 10 2024 05:36 Vivax wrote: Pretty narcissist thing to say I‘m not insane enough for you. not insane enough in the game. more passion pls. more paranoia pls. more game solving pls. Did I really fucking read you wrong? Maybe I should not always be so sure about your first impression in the game. Just because I know you in rl and I always thought it would be easier to read you first, doesn´t mean I should do this.... | ||
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On June 10 2024 05:42 Vivax wrote: No I think you are reading me off bullshit. And I think it‘s fair if I want to lynch you for not showing loyalty. I showed you loyalty in the last game. I trusted you. I wanted you as (crazy)mayor. no one had understood why i was sure that our mayor was town. I tried to explain but nobody understood. my words... my vote for you... almost cost me my life and yet I was loyal to you. But now in this game you are not a mayor and you shouldn't be one. maybe you rule in a dark world where I don't want to support you | ||
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On June 10 2024 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: shush! shush yourself | ||
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On June 10 2024 05:51 Vivax wrote: Show me why you‘re obsessed with being anti-me. You‘re a greenhorn here, act like one instead of just ignoring thread consensus and telling me I should doubt myself more. then show me your green ass because I can´t see it anymore, but I want. I am lost and I need help and nobody is here who I can trust. I have to fucking many scumreads in my head and I just don´t see you as townisch as I did in the start of the game. Was it fake? Did you fake the start? why are playing like this right now? I want you to be green but pls help me to see it. | ||
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On June 10 2024 05:56 marvellosity wrote: Eh? You were calling him mafia that game. I distinctly remember it yeah in the first few hours and then again in the last hours before his nk happend | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:00 Vivax wrote: I‘ll show you my green ass cause tomorrow the hulk might policy you outta here and back into the mafia classroom and why am I mafia right now? | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: On policy? That doesnt matter that she lied? When did I fucking lie? Are you two together on the dark side? | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: you said you town read vivax and now you are saying you dont. Days go by so does the reads on people He started good, now he playing strange. Where the fuck is the problem here | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:08 Oatsmaster wrote: The funny thing is that vivax started much worse than he’s playing right now No it was a typical green vivax start. Now he is too often off topic and put to less energy in the actual game solving | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's okay, i am gonna deal with it on D2 if i have to. Might i ask who are your top scum reads DMB? I post it before the night ends | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:08 Vivax wrote: Where do i begin to be paranoid enough for you ? A green vivax would not need to ask that | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:17 Vivax wrote: That type of reply won‘t work here. If you want your assessment of me to look reasonable you need to explain the metric behind it. Endures II Too similar fucking play here from you | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:30 Vivax wrote: I told you she‘s on a tier with Oats. She struggles too much in cooperating with me. It‘s like it‘s a mental block of hers. She will never be on my side in games we‘re in together. That‘s just who she is. That's bs. I was on your side last game | ||
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When you were actual town | ||
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On June 10 2024 06:32 Vivax wrote: Ah yes when you got lynched because you couldn‘t vote to save Palmar with me… Because i voted on actuall mafia... dp You didn't believe me | ||
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if I die sandro, az, vivax maybe mafia | ||
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Marv is always strong Town. But mafia shouldn´t be that scared of him on the n1 | ||
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On June 10 2024 11:10 Mocsta wrote: So you could post this What's your read on vivax btw? Sry if you posted it overnight I don't recall an update since early game still think he could possibly be mafia. But I have to look how he is doeing on the day 2. | ||
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On June 10 2024 11:13 AlphaZero wrote: 12 page filter is a good argument for town vivax tho. Good point But in the last game i played (or maybe we two played..) we had the most activ mafia dp ever. Somebody could try that out and most of vixax post feel einher off topic or kinda usless | ||
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Are you palmar Are you chez? Who the fuck are you | ||
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On June 10 2024 11:16 Trfel wrote: @AlphaZero, thanks, you're the best @Alakaslam, maybe read my mind? Chupazi hijole? (side note, when you search for chupazi on Google, Alakaslam is the first thing that comes up, I think that's pretty awesome  ) Trust me, the reason for doing this is very solid. You'll thank me later.@Mocsta, c'mon, you too now. Don't try and ignore this. It's objectively the right play. @die_meatbaby, I don't know if you are town, but if you are, this is where you want to be. I have the next 2 days off so I will have a lot off time to invest to find out this pussy mafia who are obv. more scared of marv then killing jailkeeper (if the claim is true) | ||
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On June 10 2024 11:35 AlphaZero wrote: Why does it matter. It shouldn’t mean anything for my alignment or this game. But it drives me crazy Can you at least tell if we already played together. If you know me you know i compare the old games from people. That makes it easier for me to find out about the alignment | ||
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On June 10 2024 11:47 Trfel wrote: Die_meatbaby, do you have a read on scott31337 yet? Either way though, look at it this way: 1. Scott31337 is town. This means that town spent the vast majority of day 1 focusing on town wagons (Kelsi3r and scott31337), so mafia didn't have to do anything but sit there and watch. In this context, does AlphaZero's play (huge push for lynching scott31337, to the point of great frustration) make sense? Yes it's theoretically possible, but it's so much simpler for AlphaZero to just be town. Mafia players (alignment) don't tend to go through tons of extra work if they don't have to. 2. Scott31337 is mafia. Why on earth would AlphaZero spend all day pushing his scum buddy scott31337 against so much resistance? And even if this is what happened, if he was trying to bus scott31337, then why wouldn't scott31337 give up, since he knows he is being bussed? It's theoretically possible for them to both be mafia and for things to play out like they did but it's not realistic at all. I still believe scott is somehow town. I said it before most of the time we have t vs t lynch on d1. I will tomorrow take time to filter everybody reread the game and make a list post. For now I will go to sleep. | ||
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On June 10 2024 11:51 Trfel wrote: Actually, I glossed over this in all the things going on.Which is it? Is Mocsta mafia, or is he blue? If anything these posts would make much more sense reversed, where die_meatbaby is thinking of Mocsta as blue before the deadline, but mafia after, no? Because i am not sure if the claim is true | ||
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On June 10 2024 11:55 die_meatbaby wrote: Because i am not sure if the claim is true That he didn't die in the night is strange as hell in my eyes | ||
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Either rsoultin or koshi have not given me reasons to see them as mafia. Koshi is really activ, trying to solve the game here. He has a lot of townreads but he plays still like a Townkoshi would. Scott On June 07 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote: I think scott31337 is probably the most suspicious person to ever play this game. He's just always mafia somehow, even when his role PM says he is town I think you are right also in older games from he looked scummy in his town games. Trfl On June 07 2024 20:12 Oatsmaster wrote: Trfel spending time and energy to fence sit seems townie to me, I don’t really like how rayn has approached today tbh the buddying trfel smells not good I thought the same thing kinda suspicious, but I think it was nothing. Trfls Filter wouldn´t make so much sense when he would be mafia. I could not see with who he would be togther in a team. For right now I see him as a Townie Sandroba https://tl.net/forum/mafia/625928-sweet-summer-mafia?user=sandroba this is 2 page filter. he comes in the game starts with giving town reads on trfl, rayn, az, kelshier. far too early in the game to make so many reads.Then hitting a bit on scott and just going offline for ever. For me this filter is a red flag but maybe things change when he would start to play here again. IF I am corect with sandro mafia then guys look at this shit and you can call me paranoid but thats something now: Mocsta sandro making a few townreads on the people who were activ in the begining but not on mocsta he didn´t get a read On June 07 2024 23:21 sandroba wrote: I actually like k3lsier too, 0 fucks given on mocsta interaction, seems very townie to me looks like it's such a safe read that it shouldn't be labeled as town right away so as not to stand out directly as teammates then the next posts felt to me like playing togther On June 08 2024 00:11 Mocsta wrote: yeah I get this now and accept it's the most likely options I was too focused on a third option which is too low odds (i.e. genuine role query) the sandro we never saw sandro again... what happend was Mocasta playing normal and calling out that he is jailkeeper and he will save oats n1 I would just love to understand why he didn't die on the first night. If someone blue called you kill them that night as mafia. Why are you still alive? What did Marv do to get himself killed and not the PR? Are you really blue???? Are you really fucking Town? Or are you playing with sandro? and why jail oats anyway? if you are town why are you saving oats. Why is he so Town to you. Why not Koshi, marv people who are strong town and often die early. Why oats? Or have I already found the team here? this hole thing fucks my head. Either you fuck with me or the mafia, because it doesn´t make sense to me! also in the same time i think Vivax I think I already explained enough why I think he mafia. But this read could change again. He is hell of paranoid but in RL right now not in the game, maybe this leads to a false read but when he is playing like this he is def. mafia in my eyes. Then I have the question again why is oats in this involved if my currents reads would be correct or is oats red and vivax green? I don´t thinks so oats looking more townisch then vivax. I am still unsure how read oats. AZ I don´t have a good feeling with him. Feels like he wann kinda lead Town somewhere, but not in a way that is too conspicuous. Still try to figure out if this is DP or Palmar. But I think it´s someone who I have played with already. No read on him right now Rayn In every fucking game we have played I have read him wrong. He was town i thought mafia and the other way around. I am still to fucking unsure what to think of him right now. In my head kinda scummy so lets say more townisch because I am always wrong with my read on him. Slam to less activ to make a read. It´s anyways always hard to read slam but when he only appears minutes before or after somebody died then I can really not read him AND YOU ALL CAN CALL ME FUCKING PARANOID FOR THIS SANDRO/ MOCSTAR SHIT BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME SHIT GOING ON BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM | ||
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On June 10 2024 20:43 Koshi wrote: I am 20000000% town on scott and if somebody calls him mafia I am just going to vote that person. Like Vivax is. it was a fucking town vs town lynch and mafia pushed that so they are safe for the first two lynchs | ||
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On June 10 2024 21:12 Koshi wrote: I think so too. Not sure if mafia pushed the tvt or just didnt interfer. oh come on trfl said it earlier in the game scott looks scummy no matter of aligment all the time. Thats true. That just needed I slightly push like sandro did and Town think thats the best shoot for d1 because it´s anyways a high change that we are wrong with the first lynch. | ||
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On June 10 2024 21:12 Koshi wrote: I think so too. Not sure if mafia pushed the tvt or just didnt interfer. On June 09 2024 10:11 Grackaroni wrote: Day One Vote Count Kelsi3r (8): Mocsta, scott31337, Trfel, rsoultin, scott31337 (4): sandroba, marvellosity, AlphaZero, raynpelikoneet (0): Vivax (0): Mocsta (0): Trfel (0): Not Voting (1): Kelsi3r With 8 votes, Kelsi3r is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Sunday, Jun 09 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in both voting on different people to be save | ||
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On June 10 2024 21:17 Koshi wrote: Yes yes. I agree. I just wasnt around so I dont know who his fault it was. Do you think sandroba his filter is a bit too obvious mafia? The guy shows 0 emotions. Nothing in there but boring analysis. why did he read all the people who where in the game at the start town? why did mocstar get a 0 fuck read from him? doesn´t this all make sense???? | ||
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On June 10 2024 21:20 Vivax wrote: I think Koshi is mafia now but that means I have to re-evaluate the entire game now. Because him townreading scott for that stupid reason reeks a lot of tmi. why? | ||
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On June 10 2024 21:15 Koshi wrote: I remember my second reason on rayn but I cant say that. Nothing illegal but when I say it, it loses its value. call it out loud, because I have always a hard time to read rayn | ||
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On June 10 2024 21:30 Vivax wrote: Because the reasoning he‘s used on the last two pages is mostly crappy and he‘s way too sure on scott. ‚Because he wouldn‘t put marv in black before shooting him‘ That‘s not town Koshi he helps townies to read other townies as town and is way to activ here to be mafia Koshi. | ||
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On June 10 2024 20:43 Koshi wrote: I am 20000000% town on scott and if somebody calls him mafia I am just going to vote that person. Like Vivax is. @vivax thats way to risky to post as mafia | ||
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sandro+mocstar+ xxx And I will fucking find out if you are the xxx | ||
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On June 11 2024 00:15 Vivax wrote: rsoul ? Aside from that it‘s not bad. Koshi/dmb/slam/rayn/mocsta is my newest pool. But it‘s thrown together I‘m busy moving and I won‘t post boxes. So you and sandro already working together in the thread? Pls do that on discord not here. Thats to obvious... ##Vote Vivax | ||
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On June 11 2024 03:50 Trfel wrote: Nah you're fine Vivax. I just think die_meatbaby looks a lot like her mafia game. I dunno if you read much of that since we mislynched you day 1 but she's still coming up with anything and everything to avoid scum hunting. It's different on the surface (no crusade against Palmar, no overwhelming, constant anger) but deeper than that, it's very similar. Why do I avoid scum hunting? I told you sandro what be my highest prefering lynch but I am fine with Vivax as well | ||
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I still believe it's you and mocstar together + maybe Vivax. First time that I am not a 100 % sure about vivax alignment. ##Unvote ##Vote: Sandroba | ||
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On June 11 2024 06:21 Trfel wrote: I'm not going to argue with raynpelikoneet when he is likely mafia and is very obviously basing his arguments on nonsense. No matter how right I am, it's not reasonable to expect myself to be able to convince him that he is mafia. He's going to jump at this and demand explanations and I am going to ignore him Happy to discuss if we should lynch die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, or Koshi first. I'm quite torn about this, I hate to let any of them escape this. Explain me how I am wrong with sandroba and Mocstar? Explain me how sandroba is town?? If you believe that Mocstar is PR then why didn't mafia kill him? | ||
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On June 11 2024 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am quite certain Vivax is town and i think you are wrong. How does that go with you? I need more time to read vivax and also to read you | ||
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On June 11 2024 06:42 Trfel wrote: I don't have a super confident read on sandroba or anything but currently he is being voted by the people in the game I find most suspicious. This makes me very incentivized to keep him alive. He's been low activity/involvement, but that alone doesn't make him mafia imo. You said that he has townreads early, some people value their early townreads, it's a playstyle thing. I will note however that sandroba didn't say he was townreading AlphaZero, just that he liked the point that AlphaZero made. I will note however that the final post of these "townreads" was post #283. By this point, your townread rsoultin said she liked where Vivax's head was at, and that she liked AlphaZero. I don't consider three to be significantly more than two, especially since sandroba was posting at a later point in the game, where there was more that happened. Basically though what I am getting at is that early townreads aren't atypical at all. For example, when rsoultin came back she almost immediately said I looked good (post #343). I don't think Mocsta is a power role, or if he is, it's definitely not because of his post about jailkeeping Oatsmaster or whatever he said. I don't see any reasons that you have given for Mocsta to be mafia outside of associations with sandroba (who I don't really think is mafia) and him saying he is a power role (which I don't believe). If you have other reasons, please let me know. If you are town, I'm going to need some help to see it so we can lynch Koshi and/or raynpelikoneet here. Or heck, even someone else if there is good reason. On June 10 2024 21:06 die_meatbaby wrote: rsoultin/koshi Either rsoultin or koshi have not given me reasons to see them as mafia. Koshi is really activ, trying to solve the game here. He has a lot of townreads but he plays still like a Townkoshi would. Scott I think you are right also in older games from he looked scummy in his town games. Trfl I thought the same thing kinda suspicious, but I think it was nothing. Trfls Filter wouldn´t make so much sense when he would be mafia. I could not see with who he would be togther in a team. For right now I see him as a Townie Sandroba https://tl.net/forum/mafia/625928-sweet-summer-mafia?user=sandroba this is 2 page filter. he comes in the game starts with giving town reads on trfl, rayn, az, kelshier. far too early in the game to make so many reads.Then hitting a bit on scott and just going offline for ever. For me this filter is a red flag but maybe things change when he would start to play here again. IF I am corect with sandro mafia then guys look at this shit and you can call me paranoid but thats something now: Mocsta sandro making a few townreads on the people who were activ in the begining but not on mocsta he didn´t get a read looks like it's such a safe read that it shouldn't be labeled as town right away so as not to stand out directly as teammates then the next posts felt to me like playing togther the sandro we never saw sandro again... what happend was Mocasta playing normal and calling out that he is jailkeeper and he will save oats n1 I would just love to understand why he didn't die on the first night. If someone blue called you kill them that night as mafia. Why are you still alive? What did Marv do to get himself killed and not the PR? Are you really blue???? Are you really fucking Town? Or are you playing with sandro? and why jail oats anyway? if you are town why are you saving oats. Why is he so Town to you. Why not Koshi, marv people who are strong town and often die early. Why oats? Or have I already found the team here? this hole thing fucks my head. Either you fuck with me or the mafia, because it doesn´t make sense to me! also in the same time i think Vivax I think I already explained enough why I think he mafia. But this read could change again. He is hell of paranoid but in RL right now not in the game, maybe this leads to a false read but when he is playing like this he is def. mafia in my eyes. Then I have the question again why is oats in this involved if my currents reads would be correct or is oats red and vivax green? I don´t thinks so oats looking more townisch then vivax. I am still unsure how read oats. AZ I don´t have a good feeling with him. Feels like he wann kinda lead Town somewhere, but not in a way that is too conspicuous. Still try to figure out if this is DP or Palmar. But I think it´s someone who I have played with already. No read on him right now Rayn In every fucking game we have played I have read him wrong. He was town i thought mafia and the other way around. I am still to fucking unsure what to think of him right now. In my head kinda scummy so lets say more townisch because I am always wrong with my read on him. Slam to less activ to make a read. It´s anyways always hard to read slam but when he only appears minutes before or after somebody died then I can really not read him AND YOU ALL CAN CALL ME FUCKING PARANOID FOR THIS SANDRO/ MOCSTAR SHIT BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME SHIT GOING ON BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM I already explained here why they are together. I have a hard times to read rayn. Why do you think he is mafla? | ||
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On June 12 2024 00:40 Koshi wrote: Sandroba/dmb fits nicely with this voting pattern of sandroba. Alone for that she is mafia. The connection to his mafia buddy is just cherry on top. How the fuck do I end up beeing togther with sandroba? I made the case about sandro and mocstar and I still believe that this two are fucking us here together!! Vivax thinks I am scum because of dumb telling and less aggressiv playing. Dt was one of the reasons I got misslynched last time. And Vivax told me to not be so toxic here and now I am mafia because I am not as toxic as usual. The actuall fuck is this here? I am mafia because of beeing a lot afk or small filter. I would be way more excited to play as mafia not always Town. It sucks to be Town. I am never getting NK because I am a save misslynch for mafia. And it works for mafia every fucking game again. Last time nofuckingbody believed me that DP is that fucking crazy insane to shoot his afk mafia. I got misslynched because of my "stupid" but true theoris. And now you all turning again against me. I believe its s and m and now you fuckers are thinking I am with one of my most believed scumread togther. | ||
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On June 12 2024 01:12 Mocsta wrote: 4 reasons 1. I'm trusting AZ primarily 2. Sandroba posts have made me feel like I'm progressing my reads.. I cannot take away that sandroba helped open my perspective back for you to be town and then you did the rest by being you 3. Of least consequence . Just hope.. it makes sense to me that the antagonizing culture of this game.is not just limited to afk and abrasiveness.. it makes sense to me there has been a lot of noise which fits into the rayn giant filter for day 1.. the koshi relatively large filter and no big dick energy 4. Rayn my biggest scum read (i.e. certainty and immovable) is in Sandro.sinxe early d2 so I rule.out a. Bus.. makes no sense. Like if the choice is legitimately two policy lynches in sandroba or dmb... Yes I said policy cos both afk.. then.. Sandroba has done more for town.. that's indisputable My #1 lynch remains rayn I'm going to bed so am realistic I may not wake up to a majority here Between dmb and sandro. It's a clear dmb vote if I have to Yeah save your scumbuddy and vote on weak town... to obvious for the rest of town to believe it.... | ||
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On June 12 2024 01:06 scott31337 wrote: I'm caught up Let me re-read DMB one more time yes please read my 5 page filter. I hope you have good glasses on, not that there is false news in the newspaper | ||
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On June 11 2024 23:12 Mocsta wrote: Dmb has most support But.. oats won't vote with you (currently) ohh here we have the trio I talked about a day before... I hope someday you'll join us. And the world will live as one Town togther | ||
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On June 12 2024 01:29 Mocsta wrote: Why do you know your filter page count? Do you have to visit to remember your reads? I quoted myself yesterday to answer somebody so yes obv i go to my filter when I need my fucking posts -.- | ||
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On June 12 2024 01:29 scott31337 wrote: DMB First thing that sticks out - is there's ZERO interaction with Sandroba. I mentioned this before - DMB has a very difficult time interacting with mafia in the thread (If we are to believe Sandroba is as well) - I don't mean quotes and names, I mean talking to mafia teammates - just so we're clear. There's filter reads and such. I mean AZ said the same thing also.. So. I guess could be NAI This is the only post I/we have so far of any scum reads. DMB also votes Sandroba later. Does DMB as a team with Sandroba name this before D2? So if DMB is mafia they def. saw the "claim" - concensus it was fake. This is bad. Comparing DP's 50 page mafia filter from one game to this. Then WHERE ARE YOU?!? I don't know what to make of this post. Almost seems genuine. Could it be faked? Sure. But... Seems genuine to me I just feel Sandroba is way scummier DMB posts Sandroba in their before D2 post DMB votes Sandroba (although 5th and last) I'm not fully sold on this enough to switch today. I compare all the time games with games. So don’t take tjis bs as scummy I am sorry that I didn't vote sandroba directly. I was also suspicious about vivax. So sorry for just making the case with no fucking voting on sandroba. | ||
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On June 12 2024 02:07 scott31337 wrote: DMB are you still with Sandroba/Mocsta/Vivax? Or has any of that changed? Sandroba/mocstar/? Vivax/oats or slam/rayn because I can't read rayn and slam is to afk so i am to unsure about 3rd person. Vivax fucking my head because now he seems more townisch but still a bit suspicious for me | ||
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On June 12 2024 02:10 Trfel wrote: Yeah. I think Vivax has looked a bit better but I wouldn't say he's 100% town or anything.I ought to note that last game when die_meatbaby was mafia, she seemed to believe when people said they were power roles randomly for no reason (and most players could easily tell they weren't serious). I didn't think anything of it here because I kinda thought die_meatbaby would do that as town too, but I could be wrong, in which case it's relevant I suppose.@die_meatbaby, I'm sorry that this is your impression. For what it's worth, I do think playing as town can be quite fun. I understand where you're coming from, though. I've only played one previous game with you and you were mafia, and I'm worried that you may be mafia here (though I could be wrong). I'd like to play with you being town sometime, I think you'd be fun to work with. If that's this game, I'd appreciate a little help to see it, because I'm not as perceptive as I'd like. @scott31337: admittedly it doesn't make a ton of sense to find the lack of communication between die_meatbaby and sandroba suspicious imo when die_meatbaby hasn't posted much and sandroba has posted even less >< Would you honestly expect them to have talked much? Last game.. One more misslynch for Town and Town loses. Read my fucking filter there. How I tried so hard to getTown on my Townside and nobody was talking to me hours before the lynch only person was Dp my suspect who was actually mafia. I EVEN tried to convince dp that he is mafia. How did the people not seeing that. How could no body ecept dp be online before the lynch is... this shit is getting more depressing every game... all the time I am dead because misslynch pushed by mafia. | ||
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On June 12 2024 09:14 Mocsta wrote: I don't think it's set in stone. There was much better push pull lynch resistance today, although majority from my town reads. Maybe I have the game flipped upside down. I can cop that on the chin. But maybe I am reading the game by Poe well too In that case was dmb a legit counter wagon?.. I don't believe so. Dmb wagon never picked up and never got buy in to pick up so I don' believe the game go to the point of truly testing this. Mafia controlled this vote and sandroba is a mislynch. That's my take. The only small BS reality I could tinfoil entertain is sandroba was legit modkill and scum wanted bus cred This feels so simular to the game where I was Mafia with rayn and I got on the top lynchwagon. I didn't have time to defend myself and rayn tried to defend me and get town to lynch somebody else. It just feels the same with you and sandroba. | ||
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On June 13 2024 04:21 Trfel wrote: I guess I should probably do something at some point, admittedly that was a nice break though. @Koshi, I thougth those three were mafia for the reasons I stated. It should be pretty clear reading my filter. If you disagree that's fine of course, but I made it quite clear why I thought what I thought. My instinct is that die_meatbaby is still mafia. Just like I had three reasons for sandroba being mafia, I have six reasons for die_meatbaby being mafia I'll try and read in more depth, but mafia bussing seems reasonable to me, not that it's guaranteed but it's absolutely a possibility (I'd even say it's quite likely but I suppose that's debatable).Not 100% slam dunk on die_meatbaby being mafia, and I will spend more time on this, but I think it's pretty likely. In all honesty, I'm not very inclined to think Mocsta is mafia, but I can re-evaluate this. My theory is that mafia was bussing, or at least willing to bus day 2. This is because surely the mafia team could tell that sandroba was very likely to die, especially if he knows that he has trouble playing as mafia. I don't think it makes a ton of sense for mafia!Mocsta to try and save mafia!sandroba like that when there is no realistic avenue for success. If sandroba was trying to defend himself I could mayyybeee see it, but I don't think it makes much sense for sandroba to give up and for Mocsta to defend him. Please don't misunderstand, I'm absolutely not saying that this means Mocsta is town for this, I'm saying that I don't think this is actually suspicious for Mocsta, and thus I am relying on my previous townread. if you want to lynch me tomorrow for beeing this much inactiv it´s okey for me (if I am alive). But your reads just doesn´t make any sense to me. Why should I make a case on sandroba before there was a lynchbus on him? Btw I am not sure if I can fake a case like the one I made and I still believe that sandroba and mocstar are togther. I am trying to figure out who the third person is and as I have already learend from the games before I should not stuck on the same people for days also when one of my mafia reads were correct. I also start to think if there is a possibility that you could be mafia | ||
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On June 13 2024 06:05 Trfel wrote: This doesn't have anything to do with why I think you are mafia though. I think you are mafia because I have been doing everything I can to reach out to you, work with you, and understand you, and you've ignored me much more often than not. And I think you are mafia because you haven't been very involved or invested, and have been hiding behind constant excuses and promises of future activity. Furthermore, when people have raised valid concerns about your play, you have avoided answering, instead avoiding posting or distracting by talking about something else. I am sorry beeing so much inactiv, but also you should know that I was activ as mafia in my old mafia game. Now I am here ask me what ever you want. And tell me who do you think could also be mafia besides me? I still have my Mocstar/sandroba theory but the case that mocstar on az made looks interesting and I didn´t invest much interest in az or to make a good read on az, because I normaly compare old games or the way how the play as either aligment to the actual game. So it makes it more complicated for me to read AZ | ||
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On June 13 2024 06:13 die_meatbaby wrote: I am sorry beeing so much inactiv, but also you should know that I was activ as mafia in my old mafia game. Now I am here ask me what ever you want. And tell me who do you think could also be mafia besides me? I still have my Mocstar/sandroba theory but the case that mocstar on az made looks interesting and I didn´t invest much interest in az or to make a good read on az, because I normaly compare old games or the way how the play as either aligment to the actual game. So it makes it more complicated for me to read AZ Well, it feels like always here. My superpower is probably being invisible. It doesn't matter if I post or not anyway. Most of the time it gets ignored until mafia needs it to make fake cases. I get barely answers. Trfl you wanna talk to me or not? | ||
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On June 13 2024 06:47 scott31337 wrote: You aren't going to improve with this mindset. Look at when I started out playing Mafia - Town Vanilla Lynched Town Vanilla Lynched Town Vanilla Lynched You get the picture. But I worked on improving my game. I worked on trying to communicate with almost everybody. I added some other things as well, and I stopped getting mis-lynched way so often. I've been mostly town read after D1 this game. There was pressure on me, and I just kept interacting. Was it frustrating? Sure. But I've learned to just keep trying and it usually works. Always be learning and improving. Or else the opposite is true. i started here to improve my english and it has helped (a bit). But the constant misslynching no matter what I do just drags me down at some point. I would love to actually getting nk not just staying alive to be always a safe ml for mafia. I'm trying to play nicer and calmer and not as aggressive as usual because vivax told me last time that maybe I shouldn't insult people so much and now I'm of course scummy again for that. But the other thing is to be constantly ignored until mafia uses my posts to make an emergency case for misslynch | ||
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On June 13 2024 06:47 scott31337 wrote: You aren't going to improve with this mindset. Look at when I started out playing Mafia - Town Vanilla Lynched Town Vanilla Lynched Town Vanilla Lynched You get the picture. But I worked on improving my game. I worked on trying to communicate with almost everybody. I added some other things as well, and I stopped getting mis-lynched way so often. I've been mostly town read after D1 this game. There was pressure on me, and I just kept interacting. Was it frustrating? Sure. But I've learned to just keep trying and it usually works. Always be learning and improving. Or else the opposite is true. I still think you are town. What are you current scum thoughts? | ||
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On June 13 2024 08:32 Trfel wrote: I played in your previous mafia game, I am aware of it. I actually looked at it not too long ago, to see if it is similar to this game. Your post percentage (percentage of the game posts that are made by you) is actually quite similar in this game compared to your previous mafia game. Sorry, I had to head out for a bit. I'm back now. Not super focused, sorry, but present. I understand that getting mislynched is frustrating, and feeling like you don't have thread control is frustrating. That's part of why I want to work with you if you are town, because it's still my job to figure that out. Let me know if you are still around. I am still around What the differnce between my towngame and mafia game? Did you look up any town games as well? | ||
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On June 13 2024 08:47 Vivax wrote: Why can‘t we all just be plants smh Plants getting destroyed by humans. Maybe you should wish to be the sun so you could burn the earth, find a New simuliar Planet, be responsibul for the New life whats growing there and basically becoming a kind of god. | ||
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On June 13 2024 08:59 Mocsta wrote: Hi - your read on me Is it purely contingent on a combination of sandroba and/or n1 jk? Most of yes. Also you defending afk sandroba felt so similar to an game were I was mafia with rayn and he did the same for me. But it all feels kinda obvious. Maybe to obvious to be real. I like the case that you made on az. I was filtering him already. Now I have the problem that I think one of you two is mafia. Both not possible. I am kinda stucking here and want to find out more. I was never so unsure about alignments in all the other games like now. I am happy that I at least was right with sandroba | ||
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Koshi town Scott town Rayn kinda townisch Trfl maybe town You maybe town Vivax behaving strange scummy and townisch but more scummy in my eyes Az scummy M scummy Slam too less posts to make a read on him | ||
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On June 13 2024 09:16 Oatsmaster wrote: Would be kinda odd for both az and mocsta to be off of Sandro and on you. If there was 1 mafia in your town reads who would it be? I am always reading rayn wrong so maybe him or I am wrong with scott and the rest of town was right | ||
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On June 13 2024 09:16 Oatsmaster wrote: Would be kinda odd for both az and mocsta to be off of Sandro and on you. If there was 1 mafia in your town reads who would it be? Wouldn't that be smart for mafia to be not on the wagon to look more townisch | ||
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On June 13 2024 09:16 Mocsta wrote: I'm glad you mentioned vivax oddness with the couple stuff First time.it plucked my heart strings.. now not at all If I'm scum with sandroba.. how do you view the interactions with sandroba and vivax? strange. I really can´t explain, but he just playing like never before and was reading a lot of games from him. It feels like he don´t want to have interactions if anybody or at least just short ones also this post feeling kinda scummy for me On June 13 2024 07:55 Vivax wrote: Lowkey townie. Takes balls as mafia to not bus here I think that he is praising himself here | ||
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On June 13 2024 09:33 Vivax wrote: Not really but I just realized I was thinking from scott‘s frame of thinking and shortly afterwards I realized he might have slipped a rock hard townread of unknown origins on you. how should I get townreads because of scott? If that is what you trying to tell me | ||
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On June 13 2024 09:40 scott31337 wrote: This is just too many scum reads with only two left. I appreciate you sharing though. Would you please broaden or be a bit more specific, especially if you are town? I know that I have to many scum reads but I can not change how my head is working. I am still to paranoid to trust more people here to be town. I feel like everbody is kinda scummy in this game. also I have to tell that I think it´s either az or mocstar and not both and oats and az also not togther. kinder stucking here in shit situation were I try to figure out witch team would make more sense. How is avoiding who and whats to insane for mafia to do. | ||
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On June 13 2024 09:46 Vivax wrote: It‘s more likely mafia was on sandro but that‘s just math isn´t mafia always trying to kinda distribute there votes? would it not be insane when mafia votes on the wrong wagon to be more townisch because it would need "hell of balls" to do that | ||
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On June 13 2024 09:43 Oatsmaster wrote: ? She has 3 scum reads how is that too many lol kinda town maybe town that are all not good townreads so you can see it as small scum reads | ||
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that would be balls of zeus if thats fucking it On June 12 2024 08:57 Grackaroni wrote: Day Two Vote Count sandroba (7); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, trfel, Alakaslam die_meatbaby (3): raynpelikoneet(1): Mocsta, Vivax (0): Koshi (0): scott31337 (0): With 7 votes, sandroba is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 12 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in | ||
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On June 13 2024 09:53 die_meatbaby wrote: that would be balls of zeus if thats fucking it would they do that. Like can we belive both mafia voting on the wron wagon to get town points? | ||
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On June 13 2024 09:56 Mocsta wrote: thats pretty close to where i have settled its basically (az + 1 of vivax/slam). more likely vivax koshi shot tongiht most likely I hope not pls mafia don´t should my townreads... | ||
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On June 13 2024 09:59 die_meatbaby wrote: I hope not pls mafia don´t should my townreads... *shoot | ||
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On June 13 2024 10:02 Mocsta wrote: dp might make everything possible; but not everyone else is DP i had to check out that game to see what the fuss was. obvioulsy didnt read it. but far out 80+ pages. thats jsut. wow. Mafia dp had extra shoot he claimed it as town and said seconds before the night kill that he shoots the afk mafia and shooted on his actual fucking mafia buddy and won the game because of this. | ||
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On June 13 2024 10:09 Vivax wrote: ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1454088193339494409/J4bUYxwU_400x400.jpg) I recently saw a guy who looked like this, just a lot more psycho aura btw it's very typical that vivax posts a lot of memes and off topic in his mafia games to seem active but is not really productive... | ||
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On June 13 2024 10:13 Mocsta wrote: cool move indeed in this game. yeah its a possiblity reliant on 1. mafia having vig 2. mafia not shooting n1 3. mafia did shoot n1 and hit a vest role that isnt notified maybe a few others that go even more esoteric its not what you are saying is impossible, its that its improbable. we will know more in 50min i guess whether theres 1 or 2 kills. im banking on 1. I don´t think that there are extra shoots when we are this less players either side of team. Or at least I hope so | ||
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On June 13 2024 10:03 Vivax wrote: I don‘t think dmb is cleared. It‘s kinda wifomy but mafia bus at least 1 partner and if you rule out rayn + Koshi then you‘re left with her. AZ I think I might just townread after all but I got time to read more, something I need to do. why am I mafia in your eyes? | ||
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On June 13 2024 10:23 Vivax wrote: Many reasons that require reading. If you don‘t want to read you can always be loud and opinionated but don‘t spam questions with answers itt so you don't want to talk to me and you don't want to explain to me why exactly you think i'm mafia. Very good. Your filter is full of disturbing posts about Austria and the people who live here, but I can't find what I actually want to know. at least tell me the reasons. | ||
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On June 13 2024 10:24 Vivax wrote: But it‘s completely wrong. My meta is so massive that it‘s pointless to discuss. Typically just less interested as scum. I‘m bad at it. Didn´t you win in your last mafia game I think it was endures Mafia II | ||
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On June 13 2024 10:31 Vivax wrote: I find the people here disturbing so my posts are disturbed. Like what do I need to talk with you about ? Do you need me to convince you that you are mafia ? why not talk about it? are you scared that I can tell you why you are wrong or do you have actually not good reasons do read me as mafia? | ||
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How am I supposed to explain to you that I am town if I don't even know why you think the opposite of me? In case you might be town, I would like to explain to you that I am town in order to win together. But if you don't want to, don't make a case of me and just vote me after the night phase without any real reason or explanation. It's totally normal what you do here... | ||
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On June 13 2024 10:54 AlphaZero wrote: Also ask yourself why scott scum reads me for not voting for mafia, but town reads mocsta who also didn;t vote for sandro. I think you both looking scummy and I am sure one of you two is mafia | ||
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On June 13 2024 10:56 Vivax wrote: You‘re town when you look for scum not when you ask for ways to be townread. There‘s no hint that I wouldn‘t vote Az over you tomorrow so you could just decide for yourself if you want to do that rather than making me repeat why I think you‘re scum so you can convince me otherwise. I‘m not that important over what you can do yourself for that to matter. Mafia fights as a team against individual townies. It is important to find townies and build a team to find and lynch them together | ||
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On June 13 2024 11:02 Vivax wrote: But you don‘t need me to necessarily townread you if you can post a convincing case for why someone is more likely mafia than you. I am still try to figure out which one makes more sense az or mocstar both are scummy as hell for me. | ||
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On June 13 2024 11:02 Mocsta wrote: wow, gg oats is this meant to be a setup on how dumb dmb is? its got to be vivax taking the piss/mickey/glory ##Vote Mocsta | ||
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On June 13 2024 11:35 Alakaslam wrote: Scott He is Conversion Please read me before saying I have no posts Why does it seem to me that you always appear just before or after someone dies | ||
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On June 13 2024 11:39 die_meatbaby wrote: Why does it seem to me that you always appear just before or after someone dies But I am always happy to see at least a nice person like you around here pls stay | ||
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On June 13 2024 11:44 scott31337 wrote: I am content with how us town are in the position we are. I just am more focused on solving this and am more straight to the point. Ya'll want to come to the country in the United States? Sorry I rather go to some country in scandinavia. I am searching for real freedom | ||
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On June 13 2024 11:55 Trfel wrote: No no no you don't want to live in the US, trust me. Die_meatbaby, did you really reread the entire game and everyone's filter, like you said you would here? Yes I was rereading the game The only one who I didn't filter was slam | ||
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On June 13 2024 11:59 scott31337 wrote: rant time The United States has suffered a lot of corruption as well. Voting, unless in the local elections, rarely counts. **** have a neck hold of what happens and how things are done in this country. The poor are getting poorer and the rich are getting richer. I've been homeless twice, last time was in a game in 2016 I played here back in the day. NEVER AGAIN I turned it around with sheer will, God, and people who believed in me. The US is getting worse and worse - saw it in 2020. Get out of the cities. Be prepared. We left and moved to the country on a lake on a dead end road. Will it get worse before it gets better? Yes. Am I putting myself, my wife, and my pets in a better position when it does? Yes. Am I stocking everything besides Fiat currency? Yes. Can I change any of it? locally, person by person - yes. Nationwide? No. I can change my location, position, multiple internet abilities, and be in a better position for what happens next. Do I know what that is? Probably more corruption - I can expect that. Get out of debt? Done. No debt=freedom. No matter where you are. It's harder to prepare for what you cannot. rant off Giving birth in a Hospital costs twice as much as my Sport car. Abortion in some states illegal no matter of raped or age... Why does college cost so much there. Freedome means beeing able to get smart without beeing in debts for a half lofe time. The pharmacy makes profits with overpriced medicines Schoolshooting, violence and guns in generall. The Nummer of pedophiles in your country... Should I say more or are we gonna play the game | ||
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On June 13 2024 12:13 Trfel wrote: I don't know, I haven't read any of your town play. I don't like using meta (in addition to the fact that I don't think I'm very good at it and I don't think it holds much weight). I would much rather simply read you for your play alone.Okay, we can do this.List post arrived at 8:06a EDT on June 10. Your last post the night before was at 10:56p EDT, June 9. Let's assume you didn't sleep at all and stayed up all night reading. This means that in 9 hours and 10 minutes, you read: the thread (116 pages) Oatsmaster's filter (12 pages) My filter (12 pages) rsoultin's filter (9 pages) Koshi's filter (5 pages) scott31337's filter (7 pages) raynpelikoneet's filter (14 pages) sandroba's filter (2 pages) Mocsta's filter (9 pages) Vivax's filter (13 pages) AlphaZero's filter (14 pages) I didn't check the end point on these pages, meaning some of them were likely not complete pages. Let's estimate that each page was half-filled, so take off a half page from each. That's 5.5 pages, we'll round up and make it 6 to give you the benefit of the doubt. You read a grand total of 207 pages. That means you read at 22.58 pages per hour, or about 1 minute 39.5 seconds per page. This comes out to about 8 seconds per post. Sure, some posts are small, but others aren't. To me, it would be prohibitively difficult for someone to stay up all night to do this, and not lose focus or speed at any moment. This also fails to take into account the time required to actually type up your list post. The alternative explanation is that you are mafia and you made the exact same lie that you've made before as mafia. What do you honestly expect me, or anyone, to think? I was reading in work time then after work now its 5:17 am. I don't read so fast in my second language but I did First I was reading the thread then slowley filtering the persons looking scummy and then later my townreads again. I took time yes but I did it. I have do if I want to find something here and it was not as hard. I was rereading the last game where dp had 80+ pages alone. I was on top of lynch sitting for 5 hours on the floor just reading this shit until i find what i need to find... | ||
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On June 14 2024 04:29 Koshi wrote: Page count from dmb = 8 Page count from slam = 8 88 stands for Heil H***** Vivax has been going off about Austrian politics all game. Coincidence? I think not. Kill Nazis, vote 88, vote DMB/Slam Best case I have seen since I started to play here. lol for that you can misslynch me | ||
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On June 14 2024 06:05 Alakaslam wrote: Lol No u Anyway, we have peace amidst all this shit flinging You failed koshis case your filter has now 9 pages -.- | ||
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On June 13 2024 14:49 scott31337 wrote: DMB prove yourself town I already made my iced coffee with vanilla. | ||
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On June 14 2024 06:35 Vivax wrote: And you didn‘t bring me any, scum tbh I had an apple Apple are red, scum tbh | ||
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On June 14 2024 15:59 Koshi wrote: Look guys. We need to kill the girl. It's simple. Tomorrow we decide if it is AZ/Mocsta/Scott as third. I said it before. Kill small fishes first. I am a bad misslynch. Kinda everybody is pushing me as scum except for scott. It will be hard to find the actuall mafia after town sees that I am Town. I spend the last 2 hours who started town to get me as a lynch wagon. I am still unsure if az or Mocstar are mafia but one of them defently is. The last posts from mocstar seems kinda townisch. I think this emotional posts are not fake. So I am taking my vote (sadly) of mocstar. And If I get lynched because of taking my vote of one of the two main wagons. It is okey better loss me as town then losing someone who seems like actually try to find mafia, at least putting more eford in the game then me ##Unvote ##Vote AZ | ||
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On June 14 2024 17:06 Trfel wrote: die_meatbaby's reads Vivax is town rsoultin is maybe town AlphaZero is maybe mafia? AlphaZero is mafia, maybe Kelsi3r is mafia? scott31337 is town Koshi maybe town (argument with Vivax spanning several posts, unclear conclusion but seems to indicate Vivax may be mafia) sandroba, AlphaZero, and Vivax maybe mafia marvellosity and Koshi town Mocsta maybe mafia Vivax maybe mafia scott31337 town Koshi town, scott31337 town, Trfel town, sandroba mafia, Mocsta mafia, Vivax mafia, AlphaZero unknown, raynpelikoneet unknown, Alakaslam unknown sandroba mafia, Vivax unknown (a few posts tangentially saying that sandroba and Mocsta are mafia) AlphaZero and someone else (I think Mocsta but maybe scott31337) are mafia (context suggests Mocsta) AlphaZero or Mocsta is mafia scott31337 is maybe mafia Note: die_meatbaby hadn't mentioned anything about Kelsi3r by post #655, but then voted for Kelsi3r in post #1122. In post #1008 die_meatbaby says she isn't happy with both wagons, which I guess matches settling for the better of two suboptimal wagons as the deadline approaches, but eh. Second note:How can die_meatbaby both think Mocsta is maybe mafia and also be surprised at mafia not killing Mocsta? For her to actually be surprised at mafia not killing Mocsta, that means die_meatbaby thinks Mocsta is a power role, as he claimed. But then die_meatbaby would think that Mocsta is town, not maybe mafia? I know I asked about this before, but it still doesn't make any sense? Die_meatbaby responded that it was because she wasn't sure if the claim is true, and that it's strange that Mocsta didn't die to the night kill. But if she isn't sure if the claim is true, then why wouldn't mafia also be unsure? Why couldn't they just roleblock him? I just struggle to see this from a town perspective. Third note:The first quote indicates that die_meatbaby finds Mocsta more suspicious than Vivax. The second quote seems very opportunistic, it feels like it's there to justify having voted for Vivax, because conveniently there was a wagon on Vivax at this time. Fourth note: die_meatbaby's reads this game just feel so repetitive. Let's just look at scumreads, since those are the important ones. She starts out scumreading AlphaZero, and eventually adds sandroba and Mocsta, and then considers Vivax and maybe scott31337 right at the end. That just seems incredibly close-minded for a game in mid day 3. Add on all the excuses, and the random warning to Oatsmaster not to do something that would make it clear he is mafia, and townreading scott31337 because he looks scummy as town, and I think it's quite reasonable to lynch die_meatbaby here. I could absolutely be wrong, I don't trust my grasp of the game very much right now, but it's the best I've got at this time. and you missing the inbetween post were I was taking about that I rather make a policy lynch then lynching someone else because statistically speaking, we only do shit for town in the first lynch anyway | ||
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On June 14 2024 17:06 Trfel wrote: die_meatbaby's reads Vivax is town rsoultin is maybe town AlphaZero is maybe mafia? AlphaZero is mafia, maybe Kelsi3r is mafia? scott31337 is town Koshi maybe town (argument with Vivax spanning several posts, unclear conclusion but seems to indicate Vivax may be mafia) sandroba, AlphaZero, and Vivax maybe mafia marvellosity and Koshi town Mocsta maybe mafia Vivax maybe mafia scott31337 town Koshi town, scott31337 town, Trfel town, sandroba mafia, Mocsta mafia, Vivax mafia, AlphaZero unknown, raynpelikoneet unknown, Alakaslam unknown sandroba mafia, Vivax unknown (a few posts tangentially saying that sandroba and Mocsta are mafia) AlphaZero and someone else (I think Mocsta but maybe scott31337) are mafia (context suggests Mocsta) AlphaZero or Mocsta is mafia scott31337 is maybe mafia Note: die_meatbaby hadn't mentioned anything about Kelsi3r by post #655, but then voted for Kelsi3r in post #1122. In post #1008 die_meatbaby says she isn't happy with both wagons, which I guess matches settling for the better of two suboptimal wagons as the deadline approaches, but eh. Second note:How can die_meatbaby both think Mocsta is maybe mafia and also be surprised at mafia not killing Mocsta? For her to actually be surprised at mafia not killing Mocsta, that means die_meatbaby thinks Mocsta is a power role, as he claimed. But then die_meatbaby would think that Mocsta is town, not maybe mafia? I know I asked about this before, but it still doesn't make any sense? Die_meatbaby responded that it was because she wasn't sure if the claim is true, and that it's strange that Mocsta didn't die to the night kill. But if she isn't sure if the claim is true, then why wouldn't mafia also be unsure? Why couldn't they just roleblock him? I just struggle to see this from a town perspective. Third note:The first quote indicates that die_meatbaby finds Mocsta more suspicious than Vivax. The second quote seems very opportunistic, it feels like it's there to justify having voted for Vivax, because conveniently there was a wagon on Vivax at this time. Fourth note: die_meatbaby's reads this game just feel so repetitive. Let's just look at scumreads, since those are the important ones. She starts out scumreading AlphaZero, and eventually adds sandroba and Mocsta, and then considers Vivax and maybe scott31337 right at the end. That just seems incredibly close-minded for a game in mid day 3. Add on all the excuses, and the random warning to Oatsmaster not to do something that would make it clear he is mafia, and townreading scott31337 because he looks scummy as town, and I think it's quite reasonable to lynch die_meatbaby here. I could absolutely be wrong, I don't trust my grasp of the game very much right now, but it's the best I've got at this time. I am sorry that I really try to figure out if this was fake claiming or not, but mafia would kill PR as soon as they do? right thats what fucked my head. but maybe mafia is not believing the claim or as you said roleblocking it. But do mafia have a roleblocker in everygame? I did not know what do think about that situation here. | ||
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On June 14 2024 17:06 Trfel wrote: die_meatbaby's reads Vivax is town rsoultin is maybe town AlphaZero is maybe mafia? AlphaZero is mafia, maybe Kelsi3r is mafia? scott31337 is town Koshi maybe town (argument with Vivax spanning several posts, unclear conclusion but seems to indicate Vivax may be mafia) sandroba, AlphaZero, and Vivax maybe mafia marvellosity and Koshi town Mocsta maybe mafia Vivax maybe mafia scott31337 town Koshi town, scott31337 town, Trfel town, sandroba mafia, Mocsta mafia, Vivax mafia, AlphaZero unknown, raynpelikoneet unknown, Alakaslam unknown sandroba mafia, Vivax unknown (a few posts tangentially saying that sandroba and Mocsta are mafia) AlphaZero and someone else (I think Mocsta but maybe scott31337) are mafia (context suggests Mocsta) AlphaZero or Mocsta is mafia scott31337 is maybe mafia Note: die_meatbaby hadn't mentioned anything about Kelsi3r by post #655, but then voted for Kelsi3r in post #1122. In post #1008 die_meatbaby says she isn't happy with both wagons, which I guess matches settling for the better of two suboptimal wagons as the deadline approaches, but eh. Second note:How can die_meatbaby both think Mocsta is maybe mafia and also be surprised at mafia not killing Mocsta? For her to actually be surprised at mafia not killing Mocsta, that means die_meatbaby thinks Mocsta is a power role, as he claimed. But then die_meatbaby would think that Mocsta is town, not maybe mafia? I know I asked about this before, but it still doesn't make any sense? Die_meatbaby responded that it was because she wasn't sure if the claim is true, and that it's strange that Mocsta didn't die to the night kill. But if she isn't sure if the claim is true, then why wouldn't mafia also be unsure? Why couldn't they just roleblock him? I just struggle to see this from a town perspective. Third note:The first quote indicates that die_meatbaby finds Mocsta more suspicious than Vivax. The second quote seems very opportunistic, it feels like it's there to justify having voted for Vivax, because conveniently there was a wagon on Vivax at this time. Fourth note: die_meatbaby's reads this game just feel so repetitive. Let's just look at scumreads, since those are the important ones. She starts out scumreading AlphaZero, and eventually adds sandroba and Mocsta, and then considers Vivax and maybe scott31337 right at the end. That just seems incredibly close-minded for a game in mid day 3. Add on all the excuses, and the random warning to Oatsmaster not to do something that would make it clear he is mafia, and townreading scott31337 because he looks scummy as town, and I think it's quite reasonable to lynch die_meatbaby here. I could absolutely be wrong, I don't trust my grasp of the game very much right now, but it's the best I've got at this time. third note: I am usually most sure about vivax read. Unfortunately not in this game. I made sandro/mocstar case there wasn't even a sandrowagon. I didn't believe that Town would really do the sandrowagon with me so my vote was still on vivax because I thought it would be a high change that he is mafia as well and in this game it's really hard to read vivax. Btw if I was mafia vivax would be dead already. I would have to kill vivax early to stay save and the warning to oats... No matter which aligment he has, but if he's mafia he shouldn't pull such a shit like in the last game. Dickmove of hell. I don't think I've finished with the last game yet. What Mafia did to me oats and dp... just fucked up. Those two broke me emotionally in the last game. I don't want to see that kind of shit on me or any other weak player!!! Am I not allowed to say that I don´t want to get screwed in the worst way ever and he should play normal if he would be scum???? I was still angry and pissed at him. also if az is dp then it´s better for him that he is playing with another account. I could not read dp normal after last game! | ||
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On June 14 2024 13:49 Trfel wrote: Oh and I don't think AlphaZero is mafia either. You guys can lynch them if you want, you won't have my vote, but I don't have the energy or confidence to argue against. I'll just say that I keep telling die_meatbaby why I think she is mafia, other people keep presenting strong reasons why die_meatbaby could be mafia, I keep reaching out to her and asking for help to understand what's going on, and she has been pretty consistently ignoring all of it. you can fuck off for real. everytime I am online and I post something here I GET FUCKING IGNORED. I only get the right to getting an answer if mafia quotes me to take me as misslynch. N2 I was online 8+ hours straight. You were writing minutes before I came and then not here for this hole time. I offered you to question me somethings. Something what would fucking help you do read me correctly... but no getting ignored from you. You only take my posts when you need them to make your bullshit case because thats already enough to fucking misslynch town DMB. Maybe this fucking town is wrong with everything. when you play like this i should consider to fucking reread your 20 page filter. I have been complitly ignored here. Marv talked to me a bit at least on d1 and in n2 finally some poeple really talked to me Scott, az, Mocstar.... Not even vivax wanted to have a conversation with me. How the fuck should I show town that I am fucking town if I get ignored all the time. I made a case. Nobody giving any kind of comment to it. Only way later when sandroba flipped and like ahhh dmb made case and didn´t vote on sandroba.... yeah because nobody fucking nobody reacted on that case so I thought I would be a only/wasted vote on him!!! I tried to reach out to people here and they go straight off or just not answering me! | ||
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On June 14 2024 20:13 Mocsta wrote: Really wondering right now if Sandroba / dmb /vivax can work Az, trfel put a thought that has lingered in my mind I do agree with trfel we were collaborating How did you change your read on me? It seemed to come about after my n2 case. At least from my perspective. first of all I really believe that either you or az is mafia but I was still unsure about that at the start of the day, but you called me dumb so then I voted for you in reaction to that I saw now the emtional posts you made like an hour or two ago. I don´t think that this is fake and if it is good fucking job. | ||
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On June 14 2024 20:17 die_meatbaby wrote: you can fuck off for real. everytime I am online and I post something here I GET FUCKING IGNORED. I only get the right to getting an answer if mafia quotes me to take me as misslynch. N2 I was online 8+ hours straight. You were writing minutes before I came and then not here for this hole time. I offered you to question me somethings. Something what would fucking help you do read me correctly... but no getting ignored from you. You only take my posts when you need them to make your bullshit case because thats already enough to fucking misslynch town DMB. Maybe this fucking town is wrong with everything. when you play like this i should consider to fucking reread your 20 page filter. I have been complitly ignored here. Marv talked to me a bit at least on d1 and in n2 finally some poeple really talked to me Scott, az, Mocstar.... Not even vivax wanted to have a conversation with me. How the fuck should I show town that I am fucking town if I get ignored all the time. I made a case. Nobody giving any kind of comment to it. Only way later when sandroba flipped and like ahhh dmb made case and didn´t vote on sandroba.... yeah because nobody fucking nobody reacted on that case so I thought I would be a only/wasted vote on him!!! I tried to reach out to people here and they go straight off or just not answering me! I am really sorry vivax I told you after the last game that I will try to play more calm and not insulting players, but I can not. I can not play this game in fucking peace | ||
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On June 14 2024 20:17 die_meatbaby wrote: you can fuck off for real. everytime I am online and I post something here I GET FUCKING IGNORED. I only get the right to getting an answer if mafia quotes me to take me as misslynch. N2 I was online 8+ hours straight. You were writing minutes before I came and then not here for this hole time. I offered you to question me somethings. Something what would fucking help you do read me correctly... but no getting ignored from you. You only take my posts when you need them to make your bullshit case because thats already enough to fucking misslynch town DMB. Maybe this fucking town is wrong with everything. when you play like this i should consider to fucking reread your 20 page filter. I have been complitly ignored here. Marv talked to me a bit at least on d1 and in n2 finally some poeple really talked to me Scott, az, Mocstar.... Not even vivax wanted to have a conversation with me. How the fuck should I show town that I am fucking town if I get ignored all the time. I made a case. Nobody giving any kind of comment to it. Only way later when sandroba flipped and like ahhh dmb made case and didn´t vote on sandroba.... yeah because nobody fucking nobody reacted on that case so I thought I would be a only/wasted vote on him!!! I tried to reach out to people here and they go straight off or just not answering me! ohhh perfect example right on page 219. koshi posted 56 min and dmb 53 min ago............. funny he doesn't write anything anymore. I wonder if that has something to do with me being here again | ||
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On June 14 2024 20:37 Mocsta wrote: I'm here next 15mim I need to filter dive to come.up.with a question For now.. who is partnered with az? I have hard times to read rayn and slam. Do you think its possible thats one of them? | ||
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On June 14 2024 20:40 Koshi wrote: I was traveling home. Got half a day off because I got to go to a special dentist. That being said. I skimmed your posts. Nothing pinged me. You are still mafia. I will skim again later. Eating now. Why am I mafia. Why do you believe this scumteam everytime for a dmb misslynch if you are town | ||
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On June 14 2024 20:43 Mocsta wrote: Hi dmb You thought the d1 wagon was town town mislynch and threw out as You have some banter with rsoultin about az and talk about him immediately giving you cold on the neck What specifically was scummy for you with az day1 Supporting quotes would be handy at the start it scott posted kinda strange but not strange if you compare it to his old towngames. az directly calling him red flag. seemed to me like going directly on a "weak player" who was online. the reads he made felt more like random and save written with not really reasons. and I felt like that az is a person I have played already and not knowing who it is drives me crazy at least drove me more crazy on d1 | ||
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On June 14 2024 20:53 Koshi wrote: I dont need good reasons. You are the least townie out of all players here except maybe Slam. Also pls dont give me these "always" "everytime" scenarios from the past because I dont remember if what you say is true. And tbh I dont believe it so.. then tell me why I am not townie. I made the first case on sandroba before other people made a real case on him. You really think that my mafia game would be this good that I would start with a sandro/mocstar case??? | ||
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On June 14 2024 20:55 Koshi wrote: Also this invisible thing is pretty unbelievable to me. You got plenty attention with all your theories in the past. I remember that. not in this game. I make a fucking case on mafia and I was correct with as we know at least one of my scumreads. nobody made a comment on my case. then I think it was rayn who made a small sandroba case and then bummm people voting sandroba... | ||
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On June 14 2024 20:57 Koshi wrote: I dont remember you being a good factor for the sandroba lynch. The opposite was true. On June 10 2024 21:06 die_meatbaby wrote: rsoultin/koshi Either rsoultin or koshi have not given me reasons to see them as mafia. Koshi is really activ, trying to solve the game here. He has a lot of townreads but he plays still like a Townkoshi would. Scott I think you are right also in older games from he looked scummy in his town games. Trfl I thought the same thing kinda suspicious, but I think it was nothing. Trfls Filter wouldn´t make so much sense when he would be mafia. I could not see with who he would be togther in a team. For right now I see him as a Townie Sandroba https://tl.net/forum/mafia/625928-sweet-summer-mafia?user=sandroba this is 2 page filter. he comes in the game starts with giving town reads on trfl, rayn, az, kelshier. far too early in the game to make so many reads.Then hitting a bit on scott and just going offline for ever. For me this filter is a red flag but maybe things change when he would start to play here again. IF I am corect with sandro mafia then guys look at this shit and you can call me paranoid but thats something now: Mocsta sandro making a few townreads on the people who were activ in the begining but not on mocsta he didn´t get a read looks like it's such a safe read that it shouldn't be labeled as town right away so as not to stand out directly as teammates then the next posts felt to me like playing togther the sandro we never saw sandro again... what happend was Mocasta playing normal and calling out that he is jailkeeper and he will save oats n1 I would just love to understand why he didn't die on the first night. If someone blue called you kill them that night as mafia. Why are you still alive? What did Marv do to get himself killed and not the PR? Are you really blue???? Are you really fucking Town? Or are you playing with sandro? and why jail oats anyway? if you are town why are you saving oats. Why is he so Town to you. Why not Koshi, marv people who are strong town and often die early. Why oats? Or have I already found the team here? this hole thing fucks my head. Either you fuck with me or the mafia, because it doesn´t make sense to me! also in the same time i think Vivax I think I already explained enough why I think he mafia. But this read could change again. He is hell of paranoid but in RL right now not in the game, maybe this leads to a false read but when he is playing like this he is def. mafia in my eyes. Then I have the question again why is oats in this involved if my currents reads would be correct or is oats red and vivax green? I don´t thinks so oats looking more townisch then vivax. I am still unsure how read oats. AZ I don´t have a good feeling with him. Feels like he wann kinda lead Town somewhere, but not in a way that is too conspicuous. Still try to figure out if this is DP or Palmar. But I think it´s someone who I have played with already. No read on him right now Rayn In every fucking game we have played I have read him wrong. He was town i thought mafia and the other way around. I am still to fucking unsure what to think of him right now. In my head kinda scummy so lets say more townisch because I am always wrong with my read on him. Slam to less activ to make a read. It´s anyways always hard to read slam but when he only appears minutes before or after somebody died then I can really not read him AND YOU ALL CAN CALL ME FUCKING PARANOID FOR THIS SANDRO/ MOCSTAR SHIT BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME SHIT GOING ON BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM that was so early on d2 at that time people where still on vivax wagon. Me too btw because I saw nobody was interested in that so i stay with wagons town decided to have. becuase when i make a only vote on somebody I am scum as well. What I have learned because of you | ||
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On June 14 2024 20:58 AlphaZero wrote: Why is he weak town and not mafia In this case??? because it´s too simular to his old towngames. He always starts weird in the games | ||
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On June 14 2024 21:05 Koshi wrote: That case isn't good. It even has a way out for you to not vote sandroba. And when did you vote sandroba? 4th? When the votes piled on you? Oh fuck off. I posted that nobody wanted to make conversation with me. so i go off and got to work. I come back bummm sandrowagon is on the lynch. Niceee so I voted sandroba. | ||
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On June 14 2024 21:07 AlphaZero wrote: The thing is dmb this smells of tmi to me for some reason. If you are town I really don’t want you to be mislynched again. I want you to have a good time and play the game. I feel bad for what happened to you in your last game. But there is literally no reason to defend you right now except the fear I have that you will be mislynched and have a bad time. That’s it. So if you are town can you please explain. 1.) why Mocsta or az need to be mafia and why. 2.) what is weird about vivax 3.) who is the last mafia in your eyes 1.) you two togther not possible. But I have weard readings on both of you. I kinda see both of you scummy. Mocstar now less, because I don´t think i faked that emtional posts. 2.) everything. I posts townie then he posts scummy again. Making too much off the thread posts. But I don´t know how to fucking read my lover. And that pisses me more off then everything else in this fucking game. 3.) I don´t know what if I am completly wrong and it´s slam or rayn or koshi. I am losing my mind and not trusting my own townreads anymore. I'm getting paranoid here again. Slightly aggressive. I can't get any further here and I think I'm just making shitty reads except sandro. I don't want to be tunneled again, but my tunneld reads make the most sense for myself. | ||
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On June 14 2024 21:14 Koshi wrote: @dmb I glossed over your posts again. Literally nothing in there that shows any sign that you convinced yourself about something in the last 100+ hours playing this game. So sending in second nuke. You are mafia. if you all hadn't ignored the very first real case about sandro (from me) then you would know that i am town and was correct with at least one read. maybe I was wrong with mocstar. We still don´t know but if so it´s okey because I know at least I made one right thing and nobody was intersted in it | ||
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because it looked like you wanted to lead town to the wrong lynch and there was one post what made me susp. as well. Give me few min I will search it | ||
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On June 14 2024 21:21 Koshi wrote: Again about this case? I just looked at it. It's horrible. Show me something you wrote only town!dmb could have deducted from reading this thread. The only thing thats makes me look like scum is not beeing sure about Vivax alignment and it pisses me off. | ||
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On June 14 2024 21:21 Koshi wrote: Again about this case? I just looked at it. It's horrible. Show me something you wrote only town!dmb could have deducted from reading this thread. Or maybe you missing the fuck counter from Palmar, because I tried to not insult somebody for once | ||
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On June 14 2024 22:01 Mocsta wrote: no. It's that you have been as accurate as Nostradamus yet no filter posts to back up how you derived the conclusions Tmi So now I am mafia because one of my reads was actually correct | ||
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On June 14 2024 21:28 AlphaZero wrote: Dmb what is vivax’s alignment? I am not sure and that drives me crazy | ||
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On June 15 2024 00:39 Trfel wrote: @die_meatbaby, I apologize for upsetting you. I have not been trying to avoid you at all, my schedule has been messed up. But you can't say that it's one way, there are many times you've seemingly left right as I have come to the thread, one time I think it was literally one minute. And more often than not, you haven't responded to me when you returned, either. My schedule was not the best I had 13 hour shift on d1 and on my days off we moved to another place. So time was also not mine. But for you I am also mafia because off me playing less as usual | ||
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On June 15 2024 03:15 Koshi wrote: No. You remember one of the first posts she made. It said that if you talk politics you are mafia. He does it every game. It depends on how much off topic he is posting | ||
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On June 15 2024 07:59 Trfel wrote: The lack of activity suggests to me that die_meatbaby is town. I would now like to lynch scott31337 or Vivax instead. I thought my activity problem here is one of the reasons why I am mafia in your eyes? | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:09 Grackaroni wrote: Day Three Vote Count die_meatbaby (7): Koshi, AlphaZero (1); Mocsta (1): Scott31337 (0): With 7 votes, die_meatbaby is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:05 Trfel wrote: I guess die_meatbaby also didn't post anything, which doesn't make me want to keep her around tbh, but I think that if mafia were defending her it would be more vocal, and if mafia were bussing her, it would also probably be more vocal. I guess I have to compensate for having bad reads by playing games to try and figure out who is mafia, bleh. Hope this will be the last misslynch for town. Better make an policy lynch then activ town I guess | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:10 Trfel wrote: Oh, look at the timing. Seriously, can we lynch someone else? I'm sorry for being bad but I will try and compensate by being random and unpredictable and catching mafia off guard at least. It's okey obv. I am playing bad as well, at least I found one mafia | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:13 Trfel wrote: Maybe I'm just stupid. I'd hate to get cold feet and miss out on lynching mafia for no reason, and it's possible die_meatbaby is mafia and took my hesitation as a chance to jump in and defend herself. But also maybe not. Someone else say something? I'm really sorry that I wasn't as active here as usual. I still tried to do my best with an absolutely shitty time management. Also you were kinda tunneld on me but that happend to me often enough too. | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:18 Vivax wrote: Wiggles in chair ferociously we still don´t have a chair in our aparment | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Im not voting AZ over dmb. What are your current scumreads? | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:30 Trfel wrote: Hm, I think you've had plenty of opportunities. I've reached out to you a ton. I wouldn't call that tunneled. More that there hasn't been much reason to think differently. I'd lynch scott31337, I'd very likely lynch Vivax, I'd mayyyyyyyyyyyybbbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeeeeee lynch raynpelikoneet but probably not today. I will filter scott fast again. I am still to unsure of vivax and actually would prefer to lynch me for less activity then him, because if he is really town he could help you all later better then I could. Rayn is always gets nk when he is town or at least in the last few games I have played with him. If he is not getting nk soon. He is maybe scum, but for now also not my prefered lynch | ||
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On June 15 2024 08:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: My personal opinion is that the person who acted most suspiciously during D2 is Mocsta. Then there is scott. Then there is DMB. Then there is AZ, and finally Vivax. I think those 5 people have 2 mafia in them. That's my order of their scumminess. And with vivax it's even very very thin chance, since i think every single player other than me left in the game wanted to lynch vivax on D2 over a very thin flimsy case. I have not however read properly what has happened after yesterday, i didn't have time, and i need to sleep soon. I am voting for dmb because i think Koshi has very good intuition, and he is town. So you voting me because of a read what somebody else made? Nice. Koshi didn´t even drop a fucking case. Trfl at least took the afford to explain why i look like scum | ||
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On June 09 2024 10:21 Grackaroni wrote: Day One Vote Count Kelsi3r (7): scott31337 (5): sandroba, marvellosity, AlphaZero, sandroba (0): raynpelikoneet (0): Vivax (0): Mocsta (0): Trfel (0): Not Voting (1): Kelsi3r With 7 votes, Kelsi3r is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Sunday, Jun 09 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in On June 12 2024 08:57 Grackaroni wrote: Day Two Vote Count sandroba (7); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, trfel, Alakaslam die_meatbaby (3): raynpelikoneet(1): Mocsta, Vivax (0): Koshi (0): scott31337 (0): With 7 votes, sandroba is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 12 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in On June 15 2024 08:08 Grackaroni wrote: Day Three Vote Count die_meatbaby (7): Koshi, AlphaZero (1); Mocsta (1): Scott31337 (0): With 7 votes, die_meatbaby is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in | ||
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This drives me fucking crazy here. | ||
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I have read many of your games. Green, blue, red.... In none of these games have you ever done as little scumhunting as here... It's not comparable to any game you've ever played. | ||
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Do I really have to tell what I think of you right now? | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:23 AlphaZero wrote: Slam that trfel vote… thats feels so townslam... nofuckgiven slam thing | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:24 Vivax wrote: That‘s one wrong answer too much. I think you‘d always have to townread me here. So I‘m voting you again blue or red?? what are you. You helping kinda less and not trying to stick you neck out to much... | ||
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it is. but you would not do that as mafia. To hell of risky | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:32 Vivax wrote: I think dmb always has to townread me here. I mean she has her own kind of insanity but that‘s just the obly correct conclusion if she‘s town why do I have to townread you? I am sorry if you are but I really can´t townread you for 100% maybe 30-40% and thats more of a blue read then green. Because it feels more like safe play you were doeing in the LAST DAYS not just last hours | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:35 Vivax wrote: I was wrong, she‘s mafia you think I am scum because I don´t read you as town? | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:42 Vivax wrote: 29 pages and people think I‘m mafia sigh. dp 80+ pages ... town reads because of pages doesn´t exist any more. 15+ pages of your filter is off topic, not game pertinent | ||
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because there is no fucking game were you played like this. What the actual fuck are you??????????? | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:47 Vivax wrote: I play it safe as mafia. I could just have lynched you but you don‘t see it that scum vivax were feeling bad about another dmb misslynch and your soul wanted to run away and that's why you tried to misslynch someone else. is that what you mean? Feelings of guilt?? | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:49 scott31337 wrote: I know the database isn't up to date but any game I found it was 10 pages or less if you were mafia. Ugg but half of his filter is off topic shit, hating the goverment of austria. Hating workplace. Hating the current situation of whatever... some memes or jokes inbetween | ||
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On June 15 2024 09:53 AlphaZero wrote: Vivax what was your last mafia game called again? Endures II | ||
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On June 15 2024 10:06 scott31337 wrote: I guess I should proive my thoughts before AZ tries to ML me AGAIN Least scummy Koshi raynpelikoneet Trfel Mocsta Vivax die_meatbaby Alakaslam AlphaZero Most scummy You can not make that vote on trfel at this time and beeing mafia ... slam has to move up for that move. | ||
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On June 15 2024 10:07 Vivax wrote: Ok then. Good night. I have high hopes you will correctly lynch mocsta and dmb without me or change your mind again. I just get too attached or second guess myself to wagon them with you on two opportunities. I‘m weak. My mind needs a rest, and worst case I get to discord with cool folk guys is this really mafia? Is this fake? | ||
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On June 15 2024 10:17 AlphaZero wrote: Does it remind you of the last time he was mislynched? You were mafia remember? It does not remind me of that, that time he was trying to dump reads and he was really salty about it. you are right he dropped a lot of fast scum option before misslynch | ||
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On June 15 2024 10:20 AlphaZero wrote: No. I am saying that the last time he was mislynched it was not like this implying it is not a mislynch. Fucking hell. but you are right in generel. the last times he got misslynched once when I was mafia and in the last game in both I remeber that he were consistently here. his scumreads. possibilities, explanations all posted consistently out of desperation. The kind of hopelessness I know is not present here | ||
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On June 15 2024 10:27 Vivax wrote: And 7) Scott might be painfully aware of what I was doing and is avoiding to have an opinion But I think he‘s blue tbh why do you think he is blue? | ||
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On June 15 2024 10:49 Vivax wrote: I want my old battlestation back my performance from phone sucks. No music, no headphones. No time. I am ashamed Take the Laptop | ||
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On June 15 2024 10:50 Vivax wrote: That‘s not the same. Can‘t be a pianist on a toy keyboard You know were the car Keys are. Ypu could get everytime your setup and build it up here. Sorry to say but ypu really don't have do Phone post here all the time | ||
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On June 15 2024 11:14 AlphaZero wrote: Hahaha I’m going to be mislynched next probably. This is a loss. First I take a closer look on scott And that vote count Chaos in the last 2 hours... uff so many vote switches. Fuck that shit. How did I not read vivax corectly?? ( | ||
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On June 15 2024 16:19 Trfel wrote: I'm actually pretty surprised to see that die_meatbaby voted for scott31337, even if only for 12 minutes. I'm not sure if that means anything, but it goes directly against everything die_meatbaby had previously said about scott31337. Post-lynch, die_meatbaby says she's sorry for not believing in Vivax, and that she will find whoever is responsible for the Vivax lynch. But then she says that she'll take a closer look at scott31337 in response to AlphaZero's post. Seems.... off? If she's truly upset about the Vivax mislynch and wants to hold people accountable, wouldn't AlphaZero be one of the first places she'd look? Note that I'm not blaming AlphaZero, everyone's wrong sometimes, and it's at least as much my fault as it is his. But if die_meatbaby is looking for somewhere to put the blame, I wouldn't expect her to follow AlphaZero's read to suspect scott31337, who made it clear he didn't want to vote for Vivax. I think die_meatbaby's alignment is key here. Before I screwed everything up, did we have a wagon on mafia/were mafia bussing? + Show Spoiler [inconclusive analysis] + Before I posted about shenanigans, the vote count was as follows: die_meatbaby (7): Koshi, Trfel, Mocsta, scott31337, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, Vivax AlphaZero (1): die_meatbaby Mocsta (1): Alakaslam If we assume for the moment that die_meatbaby is mafia, and therefore being bussed, someone in the middle of the votes on die_meatbaby would be the most likely candidate for a mafia partner. This person would also have to be someone who moved off of die_meatbaby easily, but perhaps not someone who was very forceful in moving off of die_meatbaby, if that makes sense? Like someone who is very willing, eager even, to move off of die_meatbaby, but didn't want to make a big deal about it to make it look bad if one of them flips. Is there anyone like that? Scott31337 stayed on die_meatbaby, if they are mafia together then that means I managed to find almost the only way to screw that up, helping a bussed mafia survive a mislynch and even letting mafia stay on mafia for cred. This is a really depressing thought so I hope it's not true. Alakaslam was on Mocsta, and never voted for die_meatbaby. Seems a bit risky for Alakaslam to not bus given the 7-1 vote count, but idk. Unlikely. Raynpelikoneet does fit this description. Mocsta was a bit vocal about not lynching die_meatbaby but I could see this being possible. AlphaZero maybe fits this description as well. Basically it's possible for die_meatbaby to be mafia here based on potential associations, which doesn't say much at all, but I figured it'd be worth a try. Grasping at straws. Voting patterns are a bit weird for day 3, it was a complicated day. We had a lot of votes on Mocsta, then a lot of votes on AlphaZero, then a lot of votes on die_meatbaby, then eventually Vivax. Come to think of it, there's another angle. If die_meatbaby is mafia, she has a mafia buddy, and she and her mafia buddy had to have been bussing mid to late day 2. Would die_meatbaby/raynpelikoneet or die_meatbaby/AlphaZero really bus there? Or even die_meatbaby/Mocsta? I feel like these people have enough influence that they'd be less inclined to bus, in all honesty. I think die_meatbaby/scott31337 going for a bus makes sense. Once again assuming die_meatbaby is mafia: Would AlphaZero have bussed? First thought is that he'd be the most likely of the three to have done so, since he hasn't had the activity to really get his own way. He voted for die_meatbaby late, and wasn't really talking about lynching die_meatbaby, he was discussing other options. I could see this being a bus, in theory. Raynpelikoneet voted out of trust in Koshi. Theoretically I could see this being a bus I suppose. So much for that idea, the candidates match. End result is that die_meatbaby could theoretically be mafia with scott31337, raynpelikoneet, AlphaZero, and maybe Mocsta. Which is enough people that it's not very indicative either way Tried a bunch of shortcuts to see if I could get an easier read on die_meatbaby and they all failed. Guess I have to do it the hard way I just don't really have any good ways to read die_meatbaby. But I also can't end up unsure, I think we really really need to figure this out. Is it possible to look somewhere else and come back to die_meatbaby later? Maybe it'll become more clear? From my perspective, it's either die_meatbaby and scott31337 or we have a very very serious problem. But if I had to guess I'd guess that we have a very serious problem. When I look at die_meatbaby's filter, I see a lot of things I think are wrong. For example, there's the warning to Oatsmaster, there's complaining about other people being inactive, scumreading Mocsta seemingly before seeing that he wasn't the night kill, townreading scott31337 because he looks suspicious as town, etc. But does that mean anything? No one else has been very convinced by these arguments. Well, I've got another little thing.Note that until this point, die_meatbaby's read on scott31337 was town. So if die_meatbaby is considering scott31337 as mafia, can she seriously consider AlphaZero being mafia? Of anyone in the game, I think those two would be the absolutely least likely to be mafia together. If she was more sure in scott31337 being mafia this would be more incriminating, as it is I don't think it's a big deal, but it is interesting that die_meatbaby didn't seem to follow up the questioning over scott31337's alignment. Even if she didn't consider it super urgent, if she's town, she ought to, no? Since it affects her decision between Mocsta and AlphaZero, which is what she was focusing on?Also, what happened here? Die_meatbaby said she'd rather have herself be lynched than Vivax, but clearly she changed her mind? Looks like this happened due to AlphaZero's point about Vivax dumping his scumreads before getting mislynched last time and seemingly not doing so here. I also have no clue why die_meatbaby unvoted from scott31337. Context shows that I said I preferred lynching Vivax to scott31337, then die_meatbaby votes for scott31337, then AlphaZero says he thinks Vivax is more likely mafia than scott31337, then AlphaZero votes for Vivax, raynpelikoneet follows and votes for Vivax, and then die_meatbaby unvotes. Huh? Just doesn't feel like a sensible reaction. My best guess is that die_meatbaby unvoted due to not thinking that scott31337 would be a viable wagon. In this case, however, she'd be choosing to vote between Vivax and AlphaZero, and while I can't say she didn't do this, she didn't mention considering the AlphaZero wagon at all. Feels like she unvoted scott31337 and then.... waited to go onto Vivax for some reason? It's hard for me to know if this makes sense from town or not. For die_meatbaby to be town and do this, she'd have to be investigating scott31337's filter and not be sold on the Vivax lynch, then see support for the scott31337 wagon (that she was convinced enough on to vote for it) go away and then unvote without a new place to put the vote? If die_meatbaby is town and actually cared about scott31337 being lynched, I would have expected her to protest the wagon losing support, or at least leave her vote on it until she found something better, no? Why would she remove her vote when she doesn't seem very excited about any other option and there was no reason to go back on the read in the first place? If that makes sense. It's another little thing that isn't super incriminating, but it's the best I've got. Conclusion More little things. Not sure if any of it makes die_meatbaby mafia, but here it is anyway. 1. Die_meatbaby post Vivax flip said she'd look into scott31337 again but also wanted to hold the people for lynching Vivax responsible (presumably including AlphaZero, who was the one she was responding to about looking into scott31337). This doesn't really make sense from the perspective of someone who knows that AlphaZero contributed significantly to lynching Vivax and also knows that scott31337 didn't do so. As in, if die_meatbaby is aware of these things, which she really ought to be, then I have a hard time seeing how both of these post-flip comments can be made from the same mindset. 2. Die_meatbaby didn't seem to try to figure out scott31337's alignment day 3, despite it being key to other reads she seemed much more interested in. 3. Unvote timing on scott31337 doesn't make much sense Voting scott was a reaction of fear. Fear that I am wrong with vivax... I am sorry for getting nervous at all that chaos that happend in the last 2 hours before the lynch was. I was ready to die and not thinking that the lynch would change anyway. Trfel you safed one town but we all lost one town. At one point everybody was voting on everybody it was to much chaos for me to find the right vote at this moment and as couldn´t read vivax 100% he was my final vote and I switched but sorry to say that fucking happens especially at a time like that was. I didn´t want to lose another town who maybe is even more usfull and activ as me. So I tried to at least find the real scum, but I failed. I said have to reread scott... When I am so fucking stupid to read my fucking lover wrong(what usually don´t happend) then I have to read my townreads again as well. | ||
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