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Vivax
21991 Posts
Should be a UK player but I‘m not 100% on it | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On June 13 2024 10:56 Vivax wrote: You‘re town when you look for scum not when you ask for ways to be townread. There‘s no hint that I wouldn‘t vote Az over you tomorrow so you could just decide for yourself if you want to do that rather than making me repeat why I think you‘re scum so you can convince me otherwise. I‘m not that important over what you can do yourself for that to matter. Mafia fights as a team against individual townies. It is important to find townies and build a team to find and lynch them together | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On June 13 2024 10:57 AlphaZero wrote: this is so misleading. our approaches to the game, the cycle and the lynch are dramatically different.Thats fine, so why does scott town read mocsta and scum read me? Think about why that would be the case for a townie? scott has to furnish his interpretations himself however to posit that a town~scott must read you/me the same is a ridiculous assertion | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
So I first want to go over Mocsta's case. I will say, it's better than mine.  On June 12 2024 13:55 Mocsta wrote: AZ <--> Sandroba is pretty bad there is a constant push-pull of: "yes sandroba is scummy, and shoudlnt be here after N1.. BUT.. i want to vote someone else" its actually really really shocked me how long this has been running for. in fact: AZ scum, DMB town PULL Starts as a townish read PUSH 12hrs later flips read... PUSH - ~3days ago to Marv on N1.. Defends Sandroba PUSH D2 Start.. locks into dmb, does not engage with other F Tier reads PULL 24hrs later... active defense of F-tier sandroba PULL 2hrs later.. more active defense of F-tier sandroba.. further, Rayn was listed as "C-tier" read, where is the effort to discern what this weak case means for Rayn? PUSH-PULL5min later... flips F-tier Sandro read PUSH 7in later - Sandroba is less town Rayn.. i.e. at best: null, at worst:scum PULL1hr laterlets ignore all the sandroba push-pull and jump onto DMB, with no interaction or read progression PUSH PUSH-PULL Later Sandroba returns (i.e. isnt afk), AZ returns... yet no interaction, and vote together after all this. AZ scum, DMB town So the first PUSH about Sandroba needs to do things is pretty weak. I felt the same way. The D2 PUSH/PULL Is a bit better. F tier with me, and then "I'm not sure on sandro" And I believe Sandro did not post during this time. This is pretty bad. The next PULL I don't even see how it's a PULL. The next one on flipping on the sandro read has a PUSH PULL - except he highlights half a sentence. Doesn't really fit. But of course he does not want to lynch Sandro in the paragraph also. Then AlphaZero goes back to DMB. It's better than my case, and I appreciate his attempts, but it's not a win over. But I think it's the best case around. I think AZ is mafia. Next - vote colors ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ sandroba (7); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, trfel, Alakaslam die_meatbaby (3): raynpelikoneet(1): Mocsta, Vivax (0): Koshi (0): scott31337 (0): I spend the entire D2 saying i wont vote with Rayn my top scum read.. yet AZ votes with Sandroba to lynch DMB.. crazy Rayn then PoE to certain town, theres just no benefit at all to bus Sandroba like this. sandroba (7); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, trfel, Alakaslam die_meatbaby (3): raynpelikoneet(1): Mocsta, Vivax (0): Koshi (0): scott31337 (0): Applying this to D1 lynch Day One Kelsi3r (7): scott31337 (5): sandroba, marvellosity, AlphaZero, sandroba (0): raynpelikoneet (0): Vivax (0): Mocsta (0): Trfel (0): Not Voting (1): Kelsi3r Thanks for coloring these. I started one last night but I'm going to steal yours. FYI - Just use Notepad3 and use the replace function. Works better for me. I'm pretty confident in coloring Alaka green, so I will do such. Same as rayn. I really want to color Vivax red - but I'm not fully sold yet. Occam's razor tells me it's Sandroba/AlphaZero/Vivax. GG right? Can't be that EZ right? The voting would sure say such. On June 13 2024 10:03 Oatsmaster wrote: Nah there’s no shot it’s az and vivax I'll respect my townreads advice. AZ/Slam? Or else it's conspiracy theory territory. Like AZ/Trfel or AZ/Rayn. Koshi - He's ride or die town with me. Oatsmaster He's my second highest townread. Lynched scum yesterday. Asking relevant questions. raynpelikoneet He's third at the moment. And until D4+, we're not going into conspiracy theory territory (listed below) Trfel He's so town by tone, and how much he communicates and ask questions. He's just been off on correctness. So it makes me slightly worry. Still wants to lynch DMB which I'm doubtful is mafia. Alakaslam Did jump on the mafia bandwagon at the end. We need more from you D3 sir. I feel you are the puzzle piece to solve this. I'm still leaning town on Mocsta. He's had some weird posts though. If he's around D3, I think we need to go over some things seriously. I'm town leaning DMB. I just do not see a mafia/mafia wagon D2. It COULD be - but if it was, Vivax and AlphaZero voted elsewhere. If it was Sand/DMB/Vivax or Alphazero and you know ones going down, why vote elsewhere? So that doesn't make much sense. Also, DMB has had some townie posts - I kind of disagree with Trfel. I don't want to lynch DMB tomorrow either unless something crazy. If someone wants to do a REAL case, I'm willing to listen. But also points above too. AlphaZero The dead horse of beating. He (I assume) talks a lot, wants me dead, seems to only want townies dead. Flip flop on Sandroba or saying he's F tier but doesn't want to lynch. Felt it D1/N1, hasn't gotten any better. Best choice to lynch. Vivax - By my PoE he's the other scum, unless some crazy conspiracy theories below. But we're not there yet, that's D4+ time. I'm willing to listen to any cases though. Just so..... ? Conspiracy Theory time - Trfel with his lynch whereever (Went Vivax D2 which I thought was decent, bailed on it, went DMB, asked to lynch me as well, did he want to lynch Koshi as well?) and kept his guns with DMB for quite some time. Did go to Sandroba when I think a bus time (lost cause) would. But I am not going to lynch him tomorrow D3 unless something crazy happens. Rayn did a bus on Sandroba D2 and be the first vote? Extremely unlikely, but we have to think about all possibilites. So I will sheep Mocsta's case (Although not super great, was better than mine) and I would like to lynch AlphaZero tomorrow. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
Day 3 ![[image loading]](https://i.gifer.com/YHrC.gif) Oatsmaster the Vanilla Town has been killed. Day 3 begins. The day ends on Saturday, Jun 15 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
is this meant to be a setup on how dumb dmb is? its got to be vivax taking the piss/mickey/glory | ||
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Vivax
21991 Posts
On June 13 2024 10:58 die_meatbaby wrote: Mafia fights as a team against individual townies. It is important to find townies and build a team to find and lynch them together But you don‘t need me to necessarily townread you if you can post a convincing case for why someone is more likely mafia than you. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
thats hillarious ##vote: alphazero | ||
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Vivax
21991 Posts
On June 13 2024 11:02 Mocsta wrote: wow, gg oats is this meant to be a setup on how dumb dmb is? its got to be vivax taking the piss/mickey/glory Please don‘t say stuff like that | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On June 13 2024 11:01 AlphaZero wrote: so basically scott claimed scum. because his DMB read is super waffly, but he slipped that DMB was town. I've read DMB town pretty much the whole game Not nearly as waffly as your Sandroba read | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
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Vivax
21991 Posts
On June 13 2024 11:01 AlphaZero wrote: so basically scott claimed scum. because his DMB read is super waffly, but he slipped that DMB was town. Alrernative scenario is that he had that read on dmb for other reasons than being scum. I was thinking investigative maybe. But the flipside could be mafia. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On June 13 2024 11:02 Vivax wrote: But you don‘t need me to necessarily townread you if you can post a convincing case for why someone is more likely mafia than you. I am still try to figure out which one makes more sense az or mocstar both are scummy as hell for me. | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
On June 13 2024 11:07 Vivax wrote: Alrernative scenario is that he had that read on dmb for other reasons than being scum. I was thinking investigative maybe. But the flipside could be mafia. Yeah makes sense, until his last post has her as basically null. | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On June 13 2024 11:02 Mocsta wrote: wow, gg oats is this meant to be a setup on how dumb dmb is? its got to be vivax taking the piss/mickey/glory ##Vote Mocsta | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
If you want to wait until other townies have more intel/info for today or even until D4 I'm fair with But are you hard claiming? That's the part I was speaking we were going to have a convo about | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On June 13 2024 11:09 AlphaZero wrote: Yeah makes sense, until his last post has her as basically null. "I'm town leaning DMB." What the fuck are you talking about? It's literally right here https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=28193865 Mocsta's case https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=28193475 I don't like to get personal in games. But are you just going to keep ignoring or lying? | ||
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But you get my point.
