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On June 13 2024 11:44 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 11:41 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 11:39 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 11:35 Alakaslam wrote:On June 13 2024 11:32 AlphaZero wrote:On June 13 2024 11:32 scott31337 wrote:On June 13 2024 11:17 AlphaZero wrote:
If scott is town this game I will never be able to play in a game he plays in. ![[image loading]](https://svgsunshine.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Svgsunshine-465-280x280.jpg) Well we don't know who you are anyway. who is we? How do you know no one knows? Scott He is Conversion Please read me before saying I have no posts Why does it seem to me that you always appear just before or after someone dies But I am always happy to see at least a nice person like you around here  pls stay I am content with how us town are in the position we are. I just am more focused on solving this and am more straight to the point. Ya'll want to come to the country in the United States?
Sorry I rather go to some country in scandinavia. I am searching for real freedom
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No no no you don't want to live in the US, trust me.
Die_meatbaby, did you really reread the entire game and everyone's filter, like you said you would here?On June 10 2024 11:54 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2024 11:47 Trfel wrote:
Die_meatbaby, do you have a read on scott31337 yet?
Either way though, look at it this way:
1. Scott31337 is town. This means that town spent the vast majority of day 1 focusing on town wagons (Kelsi3r and scott31337), so mafia didn't have to do anything but sit there and watch. In this context, does AlphaZero's play (huge push for lynching scott31337, to the point of great frustration) make sense? Yes it's theoretically possible, but it's so much simpler for AlphaZero to just be town. Mafia players (alignment) don't tend to go through tons of extra work if they don't have to.
2. Scott31337 is mafia. Why on earth would AlphaZero spend all day pushing his scum buddy scott31337 against so much resistance? And even if this is what happened, if he was trying to bus scott31337, then why wouldn't scott31337 give up, since he knows he is being bussed? It's theoretically possible for them to both be mafia and for things to play out like they did but it's not realistic at all. I still believe scott is somehow town. I said it before most of the time we have t vs t lynch on d1. I will tomorrow take time to filter everybody reread the game and make a list post. For now I will go to sleep.
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On June 13 2024 11:55 Trfel wrote:No no no you don't want to live in the US, trust me. Die_meatbaby, did you really reread the entire game and everyone's filter, like you said you would here? Show nested quote +On June 10 2024 11:54 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 10 2024 11:47 Trfel wrote:
Die_meatbaby, do you have a read on scott31337 yet?
Either way though, look at it this way:
1. Scott31337 is town. This means that town spent the vast majority of day 1 focusing on town wagons (Kelsi3r and scott31337), so mafia didn't have to do anything but sit there and watch. In this context, does AlphaZero's play (huge push for lynching scott31337, to the point of great frustration) make sense? Yes it's theoretically possible, but it's so much simpler for AlphaZero to just be town. Mafia players (alignment) don't tend to go through tons of extra work if they don't have to.
2. Scott31337 is mafia. Why on earth would AlphaZero spend all day pushing his scum buddy scott31337 against so much resistance? And even if this is what happened, if he was trying to bus scott31337, then why wouldn't scott31337 give up, since he knows he is being bussed? It's theoretically possible for them to both be mafia and for things to play out like they did but it's not realistic at all. I still believe scott is somehow town. I said it before most of the time we have t vs t lynch on d1. I will tomorrow take time to filter everybody reread the game and make a list post. For now I will go to sleep.
Yes I was rereading the game The only one who I didn't filter was slam
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rant time
The United States has suffered a lot of corruption as well.
Voting, unless in the local elections, rarely counts.
**** have a neck hold of what happens and how things are done in this country.
The poor are getting poorer and the rich are getting richer.
I've been homeless twice, last time was in a game in 2016 I played here back in the day. NEVER AGAIN
I turned it around with sheer will, God, and people who believed in me.
The US is getting worse and worse - saw it in 2020. Get out of the cities. Be prepared. We left and moved to the country on a lake on a dead end road.
Will it get worse before it gets better? Yes.
Am I putting myself, my wife, and my pets in a better position when it does? Yes.
Am I stocking everything besides Fiat currency? Yes.
Can I change any of it? locally, person by person - yes. Nationwide? No.
I can change my location, position, multiple internet abilities, and be in a better position for what happens next.
Do I know what that is? Probably more corruption - I can expect that.
Get out of debt? Done. No debt=freedom. No matter where you are.
It's harder to prepare for what you cannot.
rant off
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On June 13 2024 11:51 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 11:44 scott31337 wrote:On June 13 2024 11:41 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 11:39 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 11:35 Alakaslam wrote:On June 13 2024 11:32 AlphaZero wrote:On June 13 2024 11:32 scott31337 wrote:On June 13 2024 11:17 AlphaZero wrote:
If scott is town this game I will never be able to play in a game he plays in. Well we don't know who you are anyway. who is we? How do you know no one knows? Scott He is Conversion Please read me before saying I have no posts Why does it seem to me that you always appear just before or after someone dies But I am always happy to see at least a nice person like you around here pls stay I am content with how us town are in the position we are. I just am more focused on solving this and am more straight to the point. Ya'll want to come to the country in the United States? Sorry I rather go to some country in scandinavia. I am searching for real freedom
+ Show Spoiler +The US is alright the experience depends on where you‘re at.
A bit scary though. When you reach freedom‘s end you‘ll notice quickly…
Here it‘s more like permanent stasis cause it‘s so small and it‘s gossip-country. I can see it in their faces when they read my posts secretly while I bitch and moan about everything. But it mostly pisses diehard patriots off so it‘s worth it.
I‘ll wait on Trfel‘s opinion for a change, regarding the lynch.
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On June 13 2024 11:59 scott31337 wrote:
rant time
The United States has suffered a lot of corruption as well.
Voting, unless in the local elections, rarely counts.
**** have a neck hold of what happens and how things are done in this country.
The poor are getting poorer and the rich are getting richer.
I've been homeless twice, last time was in a game in 2016 I played here back in the day. NEVER AGAIN
I turned it around with sheer will, God, and people who believed in me.
The US is getting worse and worse - saw it in 2020. Get out of the cities. Be prepared. We left and moved to the country on a lake on a dead end road.
Will it get worse before it gets better? Yes.
Am I putting myself, my wife, and my pets in a better position when it does? Yes.
Am I stocking everything besides Fiat currency? Yes.
Can I change any of it? locally, person by person - yes. Nationwide? No.
I can change my location, position, multiple internet abilities, and be in a better position for what happens next.
Do I know what that is? Probably more corruption - I can expect that.
Get out of debt? Done. No debt=freedom. No matter where you are.
It's harder to prepare for what you cannot.
rant off
Giving birth in a Hospital costs twice as much as my Sport car.
Abortion in some states illegal no matter of raped or age...
Why does college cost so much there. Freedome means beeing able to get smart without beeing in debts for a half lofe time.
The pharmacy makes profits with overpriced medicines
Schoolshooting, violence and guns in generall.
The Nummer of pedophiles in your country...
Should I say more or are we gonna play the game
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On June 13 2024 11:55 Trfel wrote:No no no you don't want to live in the US, trust me. Die_meatbaby, did you really reread the entire game and everyone's filter, like you said you would here? Show nested quote +On June 10 2024 11:54 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 10 2024 11:47 Trfel wrote:
Die_meatbaby, do you have a read on scott31337 yet?
Either way though, look at it this way:
1. Scott31337 is town. This means that town spent the vast majority of day 1 focusing on town wagons (Kelsi3r and scott31337), so mafia didn't have to do anything but sit there and watch. In this context, does AlphaZero's play (huge push for lynching scott31337, to the point of great frustration) make sense? Yes it's theoretically possible, but it's so much simpler for AlphaZero to just be town. Mafia players (alignment) don't tend to go through tons of extra work if they don't have to.
2. Scott31337 is mafia. Why on earth would AlphaZero spend all day pushing his scum buddy scott31337 against so much resistance? And even if this is what happened, if he was trying to bus scott31337, then why wouldn't scott31337 give up, since he knows he is being bussed? It's theoretically possible for them to both be mafia and for things to play out like they did but it's not realistic at all. I still believe scott is somehow town. I said it before most of the time we have t vs t lynch on d1. I will tomorrow take time to filter everybody reread the game and make a list post. For now I will go to sleep.
Trfel! Welcome back.
At this time, who would you like to lynch?
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On June 13 2024 11:55 Trfel wrote:
No no no you don't want to live in the US, trust me.
Not at this day and age no.
Maybe I‘ll disguise as greenland shark and drop on Palmar instead…
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Would result in me getting cubed and pickled most likely but he‘d get dirty
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On June 13 2024 08:52 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 08:32 Trfel wrote:On June 13 2024 06:13 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 06:05 Trfel wrote:On June 13 2024 05:51 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 04:21 Trfel wrote:I guess I should probably do something at some point, admittedly that was a nice break though. @Koshi, I thougth those three were mafia for the reasons I stated. It should be pretty clear reading my filter. If you disagree that's fine of course, but I made it quite clear why I thought what I thought. My instinct is that die_meatbaby is still mafia. Just like I had three reasons for sandroba being mafia, I have six reasons for die_meatbaby being mafia I'll try and read in more depth, but mafia bussing seems reasonable to me, not that it's guaranteed but it's absolutely a possibility (I'd even say it's quite likely but I suppose that's debatable). Not 100% slam dunk on die_meatbaby being mafia, and I will spend more time on this, but I think it's pretty likely. In all honesty, I'm not very inclined to think Mocsta is mafia, but I can re-evaluate this. My theory is that mafia was bussing, or at least willing to bus day 2. This is because surely the mafia team could tell that sandroba was very likely to die, especially if he knows that he has trouble playing as mafia. I don't think it makes a ton of sense for mafia!Mocsta to try and save mafia!sandroba like that when there is no realistic avenue for success. If sandroba was trying to defend himself I could mayyybeee see it, but I don't think it makes much sense for sandroba to give up and for Mocsta to defend him. Please don't misunderstand, I'm absolutely not saying that this means Mocsta is town for this, I'm saying that I don't think this is actually suspicious for Mocsta, and thus I am relying on my previous townread. if you want to lynch me tomorrow for beeing this much inactiv it´s okey for me (if I am alive). But your reads just doesn´t make any sense to me. Why should I make a case on sandroba before there was a lynchbus on him? Btw I am not sure if I can fake a case like the one I made and I still believe that sandroba and mocstar are togther. I am trying to figure out who the third person is and as I have already learend from the games before I should not stuck on the same people for days also when one of my mafia reads were correct. I also start to think if there is a possibility that you could be mafia This doesn't have anything to do with why I think you are mafia though. I think you are mafia because I have been doing everything I can to reach out to you, work with you, and understand you, and you've ignored me much more often than not. And I think you are mafia because you haven't been very involved or invested, and have been hiding behind constant excuses and promises of future activity. Furthermore, when people have raised valid concerns about your play, you have avoided answering, instead avoiding posting or distracting by talking about something else. I am sorry beeing so much inactiv, but also you should know that I was activ as mafia in my old mafia game. Now I am here ask me what ever you want. And tell me who do you think could also be mafia besides me? I still have my Mocstar/sandroba theory but the case that mocstar on az made looks interesting and I didn´t invest much interest in az or to make a good read on az, because I normaly compare old games or the way how the play as either aligment to the actual game. So it makes it more complicated for me to read AZ I played in your previous mafia game, I am aware of it. I actually looked at it not too long ago, to see if it is similar to this game. Your post percentage (percentage of the game posts that are made by you) is actually quite similar in this game compared to your previous mafia game. Sorry, I had to head out for a bit. I'm back now. Not super focused, sorry, but present. I understand that getting mislynched is frustrating, and feeling like you don't have thread control is frustrating. That's part of why I want to work with you if you are town, because it's still my job to figure that out. Let me know if you are still around. I am still around What the differnce between my towngame and mafia game? Did you look up any town games as well? I don't know, I haven't read any of your town play. I don't like using meta (in addition to the fact that I don't think I'm very good at it and I don't think it holds much weight). I would much rather simply read you for your play alone.On June 13 2024 11:58 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 11:55 Trfel wrote:No no no you don't want to live in the US, trust me. Die_meatbaby, did you really reread the entire game and everyone's filter, like you said you would here? On June 10 2024 11:54 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 10 2024 11:47 Trfel wrote:
Die_meatbaby, do you have a read on scott31337 yet?
Either way though, look at it this way:
1. Scott31337 is town. This means that town spent the vast majority of day 1 focusing on town wagons (Kelsi3r and scott31337), so mafia didn't have to do anything but sit there and watch. In this context, does AlphaZero's play (huge push for lynching scott31337, to the point of great frustration) make sense? Yes it's theoretically possible, but it's so much simpler for AlphaZero to just be town. Mafia players (alignment) don't tend to go through tons of extra work if they don't have to.
2. Scott31337 is mafia. Why on earth would AlphaZero spend all day pushing his scum buddy scott31337 against so much resistance? And even if this is what happened, if he was trying to bus scott31337, then why wouldn't scott31337 give up, since he knows he is being bussed? It's theoretically possible for them to both be mafia and for things to play out like they did but it's not realistic at all. I still believe scott is somehow town. I said it before most of the time we have t vs t lynch on d1. I will tomorrow take time to filter everybody reread the game and make a list post. For now I will go to sleep. Yes I was rereading the game The only one who I didn't filter was slam Okay, we can do this.On June 10 2024 11:54 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2024 11:47 Trfel wrote:
Die_meatbaby, do you have a read on scott31337 yet?
Either way though, look at it this way:
1. Scott31337 is town. This means that town spent the vast majority of day 1 focusing on town wagons (Kelsi3r and scott31337), so mafia didn't have to do anything but sit there and watch. In this context, does AlphaZero's play (huge push for lynching scott31337, to the point of great frustration) make sense? Yes it's theoretically possible, but it's so much simpler for AlphaZero to just be town. Mafia players (alignment) don't tend to go through tons of extra work if they don't have to.
2. Scott31337 is mafia. Why on earth would AlphaZero spend all day pushing his scum buddy scott31337 against so much resistance? And even if this is what happened, if he was trying to bus scott31337, then why wouldn't scott31337 give up, since he knows he is being bussed? It's theoretically possible for them to both be mafia and for things to play out like they did but it's not realistic at all. I still believe scott is somehow town. I said it before most of the time we have t vs t lynch on d1. I will tomorrow take time to filter everybody reread the game and make a list post. For now I will go to sleep. List post arrived at 8:06a EDT on June 10. Your last post the night before was at 10:56p EDT, June 9.
Let's assume you didn't sleep at all and stayed up all night reading. This means that in 9 hours and 10 minutes, you read:
the thread (116 pages)
Oatsmaster's filter (12 pages)
My filter (12 pages)
rsoultin's filter (9 pages)
Koshi's filter (5 pages)
scott31337's filter (7 pages)
raynpelikoneet's filter (14 pages)
sandroba's filter (2 pages)
Mocsta's filter (9 pages)
Vivax's filter (13 pages)
AlphaZero's filter (14 pages)
I didn't check the end point on these pages, meaning some of them were likely not complete pages. Let's estimate that each page was half-filled, so take off a half page from each. That's 5.5 pages, we'll round up and make it 6 to give you the benefit of the doubt.
You read a grand total of 207 pages. That means you read at 22.58 pages per hour, or about 1 minute 39.5 seconds per page. This comes out to about 8 seconds per post.
Sure, some posts are small, but others aren't. To me, it would be prohibitively difficult for someone to stay up all night to do this, and not lose focus or speed at any moment. This also fails to take into account the time required to actually type up your list post.
The alternative explanation is that you are mafia and you made the exact same lie that you've made before as mafia. What do you honestly expect me, or anyone, to think?
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On June 13 2024 12:13 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 08:52 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 08:32 Trfel wrote:On June 13 2024 06:13 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 06:05 Trfel wrote:On June 13 2024 05:51 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 04:21 Trfel wrote:I guess I should probably do something at some point, admittedly that was a nice break though. @Koshi, I thougth those three were mafia for the reasons I stated. It should be pretty clear reading my filter. If you disagree that's fine of course, but I made it quite clear why I thought what I thought. My instinct is that die_meatbaby is still mafia. Just like I had three reasons for sandroba being mafia, I have six reasons for die_meatbaby being mafia I'll try and read in more depth, but mafia bussing seems reasonable to me, not that it's guaranteed but it's absolutely a possibility (I'd even say it's quite likely but I suppose that's debatable). Not 100% slam dunk on die_meatbaby being mafia, and I will spend more time on this, but I think it's pretty likely. In all honesty, I'm not very inclined to think Mocsta is mafia, but I can re-evaluate this. My theory is that mafia was bussing, or at least willing to bus day 2. This is because surely the mafia team could tell that sandroba was very likely to die, especially if he knows that he has trouble playing as mafia. I don't think it makes a ton of sense for mafia!Mocsta to try and save mafia!sandroba like that when there is no realistic avenue for success. If sandroba was trying to defend himself I could mayyybeee see it, but I don't think it makes much sense for sandroba to give up and for Mocsta to defend him. Please don't misunderstand, I'm absolutely not saying that this means Mocsta is town for this, I'm saying that I don't think this is actually suspicious for Mocsta, and thus I am relying on my previous townread. if you want to lynch me tomorrow for beeing this much inactiv it´s okey for me (if I am alive). But your reads just doesn´t make any sense to me. Why should I make a case on sandroba before there was a lynchbus on him? Btw I am not sure if I can fake a case like the one I made and I still believe that sandroba and mocstar are togther. I am trying to figure out who the third person is and as I have already learend from the games before I should not stuck on the same people for days also when one of my mafia reads were correct. I also start to think if there is a possibility that you could be mafia This doesn't have anything to do with why I think you are mafia though. I think you are mafia because I have been doing everything I can to reach out to you, work with you, and understand you, and you've ignored me much more often than not. And I think you are mafia because you haven't been very involved or invested, and have been hiding behind constant excuses and promises of future activity. Furthermore, when people have raised valid concerns about your play, you have avoided answering, instead avoiding posting or distracting by talking about something else. I am sorry beeing so much inactiv, but also you should know that I was activ as mafia in my old mafia game. Now I am here ask me what ever you want. And tell me who do you think could also be mafia besides me? I still have my Mocstar/sandroba theory but the case that mocstar on az made looks interesting and I didn´t invest much interest in az or to make a good read on az, because I normaly compare old games or the way how the play as either aligment to the actual game. So it makes it more complicated for me to read AZ I played in your previous mafia game, I am aware of it. I actually looked at it not too long ago, to see if it is similar to this game. Your post percentage (percentage of the game posts that are made by you) is actually quite similar in this game compared to your previous mafia game. Sorry, I had to head out for a bit. I'm back now. Not super focused, sorry, but present. I understand that getting mislynched is frustrating, and feeling like you don't have thread control is frustrating. That's part of why I want to work with you if you are town, because it's still my job to figure that out. Let me know if you are still around. I am still around What the differnce between my towngame and mafia game? Did you look up any town games as well? I don't know, I haven't read any of your town play. I don't like using meta (in addition to the fact that I don't think I'm very good at it and I don't think it holds much weight). I would much rather simply read you for your play alone. Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 11:58 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 11:55 Trfel wrote:No no no you don't want to live in the US, trust me. Die_meatbaby, did you really reread the entire game and everyone's filter, like you said you would here? On June 10 2024 11:54 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 10 2024 11:47 Trfel wrote:
Die_meatbaby, do you have a read on scott31337 yet?
Either way though, look at it this way:
1. Scott31337 is town. This means that town spent the vast majority of day 1 focusing on town wagons (Kelsi3r and scott31337), so mafia didn't have to do anything but sit there and watch. In this context, does AlphaZero's play (huge push for lynching scott31337, to the point of great frustration) make sense? Yes it's theoretically possible, but it's so much simpler for AlphaZero to just be town. Mafia players (alignment) don't tend to go through tons of extra work if they don't have to.
2. Scott31337 is mafia. Why on earth would AlphaZero spend all day pushing his scum buddy scott31337 against so much resistance? And even if this is what happened, if he was trying to bus scott31337, then why wouldn't scott31337 give up, since he knows he is being bussed? It's theoretically possible for them to both be mafia and for things to play out like they did but it's not realistic at all. I still believe scott is somehow town. I said it before most of the time we have t vs t lynch on d1. I will tomorrow take time to filter everybody reread the game and make a list post. For now I will go to sleep. Yes I was rereading the game The only one who I didn't filter was slam Okay, we can do this. Show nested quote +On June 10 2024 11:54 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 10 2024 11:47 Trfel wrote:
Die_meatbaby, do you have a read on scott31337 yet?
Either way though, look at it this way:
1. Scott31337 is town. This means that town spent the vast majority of day 1 focusing on town wagons (Kelsi3r and scott31337), so mafia didn't have to do anything but sit there and watch. In this context, does AlphaZero's play (huge push for lynching scott31337, to the point of great frustration) make sense? Yes it's theoretically possible, but it's so much simpler for AlphaZero to just be town. Mafia players (alignment) don't tend to go through tons of extra work if they don't have to.
2. Scott31337 is mafia. Why on earth would AlphaZero spend all day pushing his scum buddy scott31337 against so much resistance? And even if this is what happened, if he was trying to bus scott31337, then why wouldn't scott31337 give up, since he knows he is being bussed? It's theoretically possible for them to both be mafia and for things to play out like they did but it's not realistic at all. I still believe scott is somehow town. I said it before most of the time we have t vs t lynch on d1. I will tomorrow take time to filter everybody reread the game and make a list post. For now I will go to sleep. List post arrived at 8:06a EDT on June 10. Your last post the night before was at 10:56p EDT, June 9. Let's assume you didn't sleep at all and stayed up all night reading. This means that in 9 hours and 10 minutes, you read: the thread (116 pages) Oatsmaster's filter (12 pages) My filter (12 pages) rsoultin's filter (9 pages) Koshi's filter (5 pages) scott31337's filter (7 pages) raynpelikoneet's filter (14 pages) sandroba's filter (2 pages) Mocsta's filter (9 pages) Vivax's filter (13 pages) AlphaZero's filter (14 pages) I didn't check the end point on these pages, meaning some of them were likely not complete pages. Let's estimate that each page was half-filled, so take off a half page from each. That's 5.5 pages, we'll round up and make it 6 to give you the benefit of the doubt. You read a grand total of 207 pages. That means you read at 22.58 pages per hour, or about 1 minute 39.5 seconds per page. This comes out to about 8 seconds per post. Sure, some posts are small, but others aren't. To me, it would be prohibitively difficult for someone to stay up all night to do this, and not lose focus or speed at any moment. This also fails to take into account the time required to actually type up your list post. The alternative explanation is that you are mafia and you made the exact same lie that you've made before as mafia. What do you honestly expect me, or anyone, to think?
I was reading in work time then after work now its 5:17 am. I don't read so fast in my second language but I did First I was reading the thread then slowley filtering the persons looking scummy and then later my townreads again. I took time yes but I did it. I have do if I want to find something here and it was not as hard. I was rereading the last game where dp had 80+ pages alone. I was on top of lynch sitting for 5 hours on the floor just reading this shit until i find what i need to find...
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On June 13 2024 12:07 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 11:59 scott31337 wrote:
rant time
The United States has suffered a lot of corruption as well.
Voting, unless in the local elections, rarely counts.
**** have a neck hold of what happens and how things are done in this country.
The poor are getting poorer and the rich are getting richer.
I've been homeless twice, last time was in a game in 2016 I played here back in the day. NEVER AGAIN
I turned it around with sheer will, God, and people who believed in me.
The US is getting worse and worse - saw it in 2020. Get out of the cities. Be prepared. We left and moved to the country on a lake on a dead end road.
Will it get worse before it gets better? Yes.
Am I putting myself, my wife, and my pets in a better position when it does? Yes.
Am I stocking everything besides Fiat currency? Yes.
Can I change any of it? locally, person by person - yes. Nationwide? No.
I can change my location, position, multiple internet abilities, and be in a better position for what happens next.
Do I know what that is? Probably more corruption - I can expect that.
Get out of debt? Done. No debt=freedom. No matter where you are.
It's harder to prepare for what you cannot.
rant off
Giving birth in a Hospital costs twice as much as my Sport car. Same as here without insurance. Same as here without insurance. Our system funds most of the "advancements" they come out with. But it's a mess here too. Abortion in some states illegal no matter of raped or age... I could give you this but it's a stretch and not my discussion I want here. Some states have a six week abortion ban. Some allow Infanticide. I'd rather that not decide your alignment. Why does college cost so much there. Freedome means beeing able to get smart without beeing in debts for a half lofe time. If you go an nontraditional path (OUT OF STATE) it's very expensive. The frugal would go to a two year in state collage and transfer and then to a four year university. Or just go to a four year university IN STATE. Our student loan program should have never been allowed. And I'm tired of "forgiveness" - just dissolve the whole program completely, and supply and demand will balance itself again eventually. The pharmacy makes profits with overpriced medicines That's how they fund the research and development. That's why they are sold so much cheaper in other countries. Now, we could go on about how much they are pushed to fund said above. Schoolshooting, violence and guns in generall. School shooting are very rare, and extremely published. If you go into statistics. Our issue now is that the schools aren't actually teaching children reading, writing, and arithmetic (math). Violence and gun grime is generally specific to a specific region, population density, and how that population density votes. Chicago/Illinois has one of the strictest laws on firearms, but crime is extremely high. The Nummer of pedophiles in your country... I don't have the statistics here - but ped's are in every country. I actually believe our country has more private orgs that filter this out. I'll leave it at that. Should I say more or are we gonna play the game
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Trfel who do you want to lynch today?
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On June 13 2024 12:23 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 12:13 Trfel wrote:On June 13 2024 08:52 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 08:32 Trfel wrote:On June 13 2024 06:13 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 06:05 Trfel wrote:On June 13 2024 05:51 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 04:21 Trfel wrote:I guess I should probably do something at some point, admittedly that was a nice break though. @Koshi, I thougth those three were mafia for the reasons I stated. It should be pretty clear reading my filter. If you disagree that's fine of course, but I made it quite clear why I thought what I thought. My instinct is that die_meatbaby is still mafia. Just like I had three reasons for sandroba being mafia, I have six reasons for die_meatbaby being mafia I'll try and read in more depth, but mafia bussing seems reasonable to me, not that it's guaranteed but it's absolutely a possibility (I'd even say it's quite likely but I suppose that's debatable). Not 100% slam dunk on die_meatbaby being mafia, and I will spend more time on this, but I think it's pretty likely. In all honesty, I'm not very inclined to think Mocsta is mafia, but I can re-evaluate this. My theory is that mafia was bussing, or at least willing to bus day 2. This is because surely the mafia team could tell that sandroba was very likely to die, especially if he knows that he has trouble playing as mafia. I don't think it makes a ton of sense for mafia!Mocsta to try and save mafia!sandroba like that when there is no realistic avenue for success. If sandroba was trying to defend himself I could mayyybeee see it, but I don't think it makes much sense for sandroba to give up and for Mocsta to defend him. Please don't misunderstand, I'm absolutely not saying that this means Mocsta is town for this, I'm saying that I don't think this is actually suspicious for Mocsta, and thus I am relying on my previous townread. if you want to lynch me tomorrow for beeing this much inactiv it´s okey for me (if I am alive). But your reads just doesn´t make any sense to me. Why should I make a case on sandroba before there was a lynchbus on him? Btw I am not sure if I can fake a case like the one I made and I still believe that sandroba and mocstar are togther. I am trying to figure out who the third person is and as I have already learend from the games before I should not stuck on the same people for days also when one of my mafia reads were correct. I also start to think if there is a possibility that you could be mafia This doesn't have anything to do with why I think you are mafia though. I think you are mafia because I have been doing everything I can to reach out to you, work with you, and understand you, and you've ignored me much more often than not. And I think you are mafia because you haven't been very involved or invested, and have been hiding behind constant excuses and promises of future activity. Furthermore, when people have raised valid concerns about your play, you have avoided answering, instead avoiding posting or distracting by talking about something else. I am sorry beeing so much inactiv, but also you should know that I was activ as mafia in my old mafia game. Now I am here ask me what ever you want. And tell me who do you think could also be mafia besides me? I still have my Mocstar/sandroba theory but the case that mocstar on az made looks interesting and I didn´t invest much interest in az or to make a good read on az, because I normaly compare old games or the way how the play as either aligment to the actual game. So it makes it more complicated for me to read AZ I played in your previous mafia game, I am aware of it. I actually looked at it not too long ago, to see if it is similar to this game. Your post percentage (percentage of the game posts that are made by you) is actually quite similar in this game compared to your previous mafia game. Sorry, I had to head out for a bit. I'm back now. Not super focused, sorry, but present. I understand that getting mislynched is frustrating, and feeling like you don't have thread control is frustrating. That's part of why I want to work with you if you are town, because it's still my job to figure that out. Let me know if you are still around. I am still around What the differnce between my towngame and mafia game? Did you look up any town games as well? I don't know, I haven't read any of your town play. I don't like using meta (in addition to the fact that I don't think I'm very good at it and I don't think it holds much weight). I would much rather simply read you for your play alone. On June 13 2024 11:58 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 13 2024 11:55 Trfel wrote:No no no you don't want to live in the US, trust me. Die_meatbaby, did you really reread the entire game and everyone's filter, like you said you would here? On June 10 2024 11:54 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 10 2024 11:47 Trfel wrote:
Die_meatbaby, do you have a read on scott31337 yet?
Either way though, look at it this way:
1. Scott31337 is town. This means that town spent the vast majority of day 1 focusing on town wagons (Kelsi3r and scott31337), so mafia didn't have to do anything but sit there and watch. In this context, does AlphaZero's play (huge push for lynching scott31337, to the point of great frustration) make sense? Yes it's theoretically possible, but it's so much simpler for AlphaZero to just be town. Mafia players (alignment) don't tend to go through tons of extra work if they don't have to.
2. Scott31337 is mafia. Why on earth would AlphaZero spend all day pushing his scum buddy scott31337 against so much resistance? And even if this is what happened, if he was trying to bus scott31337, then why wouldn't scott31337 give up, since he knows he is being bussed? It's theoretically possible for them to both be mafia and for things to play out like they did but it's not realistic at all. I still believe scott is somehow town. I said it before most of the time we have t vs t lynch on d1. I will tomorrow take time to filter everybody reread the game and make a list post. For now I will go to sleep. Yes I was rereading the game The only one who I didn't filter was slam Okay, we can do this. On June 10 2024 11:54 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 10 2024 11:47 Trfel wrote:
Die_meatbaby, do you have a read on scott31337 yet?
Either way though, look at it this way:
1. Scott31337 is town. This means that town spent the vast majority of day 1 focusing on town wagons (Kelsi3r and scott31337), so mafia didn't have to do anything but sit there and watch. In this context, does AlphaZero's play (huge push for lynching scott31337, to the point of great frustration) make sense? Yes it's theoretically possible, but it's so much simpler for AlphaZero to just be town. Mafia players (alignment) don't tend to go through tons of extra work if they don't have to.
2. Scott31337 is mafia. Why on earth would AlphaZero spend all day pushing his scum buddy scott31337 against so much resistance? And even if this is what happened, if he was trying to bus scott31337, then why wouldn't scott31337 give up, since he knows he is being bussed? It's theoretically possible for them to both be mafia and for things to play out like they did but it's not realistic at all. I still believe scott is somehow town. I said it before most of the time we have t vs t lynch on d1. I will tomorrow take time to filter everybody reread the game and make a list post. For now I will go to sleep. List post arrived at 8:06a EDT on June 10. Your last post the night before was at 10:56p EDT, June 9. Let's assume you didn't sleep at all and stayed up all night reading. This means that in 9 hours and 10 minutes, you read: the thread (116 pages) Oatsmaster's filter (12 pages) My filter (12 pages) rsoultin's filter (9 pages) Koshi's filter (5 pages) scott31337's filter (7 pages) raynpelikoneet's filter (14 pages) sandroba's filter (2 pages) Mocsta's filter (9 pages) Vivax's filter (13 pages) AlphaZero's filter (14 pages) I didn't check the end point on these pages, meaning some of them were likely not complete pages. Let's estimate that each page was half-filled, so take off a half page from each. That's 5.5 pages, we'll round up and make it 6 to give you the benefit of the doubt. You read a grand total of 207 pages. That means you read at 22.58 pages per hour, or about 1 minute 39.5 seconds per page. This comes out to about 8 seconds per post. Sure, some posts are small, but others aren't. To me, it would be prohibitively difficult for someone to stay up all night to do this, and not lose focus or speed at any moment. This also fails to take into account the time required to actually type up your list post. The alternative explanation is that you are mafia and you made the exact same lie that you've made before as mafia. What do you honestly expect me, or anyone, to think? I was reading in work time then after work now its 5:17 am. I don't read so fast in my second language but I did First I was reading the thread then slowley filtering the persons looking scummy and then later my townreads again. I took time yes but I did it. I have do if I want to find something here and it was not as hard. I was rereading the last game where dp had 80+ pages alone. I was on top of lynch sitting for 5 hours on the floor just reading this shit until i find what i need to find... Okay, so this argument doesn't explain it in the slightest. But you did say as town last game that you were going to reread at page 146ish. Whatever....
@scott31337, not sure. Apparently die_meatbaby just reads hundreds of pages in an instant. I still think she could very easily be mafia, there are plenty of other reasons, but I haven't looked deeply in like 36 hours so that's very overdue.
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Trfel if you are town lynch AlphaZero
Unless you have multiple reasons to read him town
You like to talk a lot
Tell me how AZ is town or vote with us
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On June 13 2024 12:33 scott31337 wrote:
Trfel if you are town lynch AlphaZero
Unless you have multiple reasons to read him town
You like to talk a lot
Tell me how AZ is town or vote with us What part of "I'm catching up, I don't know" is so hard to understand?
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Like why would you want a half-baked opinion? How is that useful to you?
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Trfel I think you are tunneled on DMB
She could be like x% mafia in my book?
Did you read my n2 post?
There's a very low chance we were on mafia/mafia by numbers
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On June 13 2024 12:35 Trfel wrote:
Like why would you want a half-baked opinion? How is that useful to you?
Its because he is not interested in solving, he is pushing agenda.
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