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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 13 2024 03:39 GMT
#3641
On June 13 2024 12:36 scott31337 wrote:
Trfel I think you are tunneled on DMB

She could be like x% mafia in my book?

Did you read my n2 post?

There's a very low chance we were on mafia/mafia by numbers
Yes, I read your night two post.

I don't think I'm tunneled on die_meatbaby, I've made plenty of clear points and I don't have any strong reads regardless so how can I be tunneled on something if I'm not confident in anything?

Why do you want me to post uninformed opinions after I literally just told you I don't know anything?

@AlphaZero, if you're around for a moment, can you explain why you think Mocsta is mafia or point me towards previous explanations (sorry I forget)?
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 13 2024 03:39 GMT
#3642
On June 13 2024 12:35 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 12:33 scott31337 wrote:
Trfel if you are town lynch AlphaZero

Unless you have multiple reasons to read him town

You like to talk a lot

Tell me how AZ is town or vote with us
What part of "I'm catching up, I don't know" is so hard to understand?


Then catch up.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 13 2024 03:40 GMT
#3643
On June 13 2024 12:39 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 12:35 Trfel wrote:
On June 13 2024 12:33 scott31337 wrote:
Trfel if you are town lynch AlphaZero

Unless you have multiple reasons to read him town

You like to talk a lot

Tell me how AZ is town or vote with us
What part of "I'm catching up, I don't know" is so hard to understand?


Then catch up.
Then stop pestering me with stupid questions?!?!
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 03:51 GMT
#3644
On June 13 2024 12:39 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 12:36 scott31337 wrote:
Trfel I think you are tunneled on DMB

She could be like x% mafia in my book?

Did you read my n2 post?

There's a very low chance we were on mafia/mafia by numbers
Yes, I read your night two post.

I don't think I'm tunnelled on die_meatbaby, I've made plenty of clear points and I don't have any strong reads regardless so how can I be tunnelled on something if I'm not confident in anything?

Why do you want me to post uninformed opinions after I literally just told you I don't know anything?

@AlphaZero, if you're around for a moment, can you explain why you think Mocsta is mafia or point me towards previous explanations (sorry I forget)?


Basically his read progression on my alignment.

I don't think his case was an accurate representation of my alignment.

and I don't understand why someone would fail to consider the IMO good reasons their prior town read could be town.

He was saying not long ago that I would get shot at night, now he is utterly convinced I am mafia. It just seems to me (knowing I am town) that he is knowingly pushing a mis lynch on town here.

Further, once I firmed up town read on rayn, his read on mocsta as mafia carried more weight.

Basically I went through mocsta's case and then read my own filter and thought: "is this a reasonable reason to 180 his town read on me? is this a good faith interpretation of the facts of the matter?" and decided No , so he must be mafia.

Then there is the obvious flailing about to get a counterwagon to sandro, which compared to my feelings of basic indifference seems scummy.

Bonus points is that a Mocsta/scott team makes entire sense from the progression of day one.

Mocsta attacked me day 1 when I was pushing scott, classic chainsaw defense

He then joined the scott push when it was really clear that it was not going to result in anything.

And now he is voting with scott on his former top town read, without the scum read really progressing to a town read in a way that makes sense.

and further, scott's reasoning on me being mafia has become "because I am allergic to voting mafia" which is itself scummy and works with mocsta town because:

1>) he has never cleared DMB and has ALWAYS hedged on her alignment, so he is basically slipping there

2.) he is not considering mocsta as mafia who also did not vote for sandro, and in fact was the most vocal opponent of the lynch and is in fact voting with him.

its pretty clear to me that these are the last two mafia, but if i need to die for their lynches to happen that works, cause I don't have the time to convince people or make huge cases or anything.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 13 2024 03:51 GMT
#3645
On June 13 2024 12:36 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 12:35 Trfel wrote:
Like why would you want a half-baked opinion? How is that useful to you?


Its because he is not interested in solving, he is pushing agenda.


I thought it was past your bed time where you were located.

Where are you located?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 03:53 GMT
#3646
On June 13 2024 12:51 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 12:36 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 13 2024 12:35 Trfel wrote:
Like why would you want a half-baked opinion? How is that useful to you?


Its because he is not interested in solving, he is pushing agenda.


I thought it was past your bed time where you were located.

Where are you located?


South Korea
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 03:54 GMT
#3647
On June 13 2024 12:51 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 12:36 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 13 2024 12:35 Trfel wrote:
Like why would you want a half-baked opinion? How is that useful to you?


Its because he is not interested in solving, he is pushing agenda.


I thought it was past your bed time where you were located.

Where are you located?



See, he is uncomfortable with me pointing this out.

He wants me to go away
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 13 2024 03:57 GMT
#3648
On June 13 2024 12:54 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 12:51 scott31337 wrote:
On June 13 2024 12:36 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 13 2024 12:35 Trfel wrote:
Like why would you want a half-baked opinion? How is that useful to you?


Its because he is not interested in solving, he is pushing agenda.


I thought it was past your bed time where you were located.

Where are you located?



See, he is uncomfortable with me pointing this out.

He wants me to go away
He's watching out for your best interests!

Side note, thanks for the explanation on Mocsta, I'll look into it more. You think Mocsta is more likely mafia than scott31337?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 13 2024 03:57 GMT
#3649
Lots of brush off

Push pull as thread sentiment evolved is labeled as inaccurate representation.

Yet the case is your posts with colours for emphasis - nothing more

Dodge and reframe

Accuses me of being teamed with Scott for voting with a former scum read even though we have only aligned when I have town read Scott

Worse this point reflects to alphazero as a hypocrite who voted with his "actual" scum read sandroba
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 03:58 GMT
#3650
On June 13 2024 12:57 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 12:54 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 13 2024 12:51 scott31337 wrote:
On June 13 2024 12:36 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 13 2024 12:35 Trfel wrote:
Like why would you want a half-baked opinion? How is that useful to you?


Its because he is not interested in solving, he is pushing agenda.


I thought it was past your bed time where you were located.

Where are you located?



See, he is uncomfortable with me pointing this out.

He wants me to go away
He's watching out for your best interests!

Side note, thanks for the explanation on Mocsta, I'll look into it more. You think Mocsta is more likely mafia than scott31337?


no I think they are both mafia.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 03:59 GMT
#3651
On June 13 2024 12:57 Mocsta wrote:
Lots of brush off

Push pull as thread sentiment evolved is labeled as inaccurate representation.

Yet the case is your posts with colours for emphasis - nothing more

Dodge and reframe

Accuses me of being teamed with Scott for voting with a former scum read even though we have only aligned when I have town read Scott

Worse this point reflects to alphazero as a hypocrite who voted with his "actual" scum read sandroba


when did you town read scott, and what happened for this town read to develop?

The rest is just bluster
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 13 2024 03:59 GMT
#3652
Wtf is this blatant lie alpha

I voted with sandroba?

Lol.. the end of day count clearly shows you are talking about yourself along with vivax
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 04:00 GMT
#3653
Like I was clear that I voted DMB cause I thought it was the best option, and that would give more time for sandro to either shine through as town or become clear mafia.

I thought it was a clear loss if we lynched sandro and he was town.

nothing about that is about me voting with my scum read.

"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 04:01 GMT
#3654
On June 13 2024 12:59 Mocsta wrote:
Wtf is this blatant lie alpha

I voted with sandroba?

Lol.. the end of day count clearly shows you are talking about yourself along with vivax


What are you even talking about?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 13 2024 04:02 GMT
#3655
On June 13 2024 12:59 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 12:57 Mocsta wrote:
Lots of brush off

Push pull as thread sentiment evolved is labeled as inaccurate representation.

Yet the case is your posts with colours for emphasis - nothing more

Dodge and reframe

Accuses me of being teamed with Scott for voting with a former scum read even though we have only aligned when I have town read Scott

Worse this point reflects to alphazero as a hypocrite who voted with his "actual" scum read sandroba


when did you town read scott, and what happened for this town read to develop?

The rest is just bluster
nothing I have done is unchanged from my vote count with colours

I have constantly talked of Scott beboping around being a town indicator for me
And his shift over the past 24hrs to not bebop makes absolute sense as town because more information means the game.feels closer to being solved
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 04:03 GMT
#3656
Like to boil down the essence of the reason that both scott and mocsta are mafia

They aren't trying to solve, because they aren't genuinely considering the reasons i could be town.

they are trying just trying to push a mislynch here.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 13 2024 04:03 GMT
#3657
On June 13 2024 12:51 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 12:39 Trfel wrote:
On June 13 2024 12:36 scott31337 wrote:
Trfel I think you are tunneled on DMB

She could be like x% mafia in my book?

Did you read my n2 post?

There's a very low chance we were on mafia/mafia by numbers
Yes, I read your night two post.

I don't think I'm tunnelled on die_meatbaby, I've made plenty of clear points and I don't have any strong reads regardless so how can I be tunnelled on something if I'm not confident in anything?

Why do you want me to post uninformed opinions after I literally just told you I don't know anything?

@AlphaZero, if you're around for a moment, can you explain why you think Mocsta is mafia or point me towards previous explanations (sorry I forget)?


Basically his read progression on my alignment.

I don't think his case was an accurate representation of my alignment.

and I don't understand why someone would fail to consider the IMO good reasons their prior town read could be town.

He was saying not long ago that I would get shot at night, now he is utterly convinced I am mafia. It just seems to me (knowing I am town) that he is knowingly pushing a mis lynch on town here.

Further, once I firmed up town read on rayn, his read on mocsta as mafia carried more weight.

Basically I went through mocsta's case and then read my own filter and thought: "is this a reasonable reason to 180 his town read on me? is this a good faith interpretation of the facts of the matter?" and decided No , so he must be mafia.

Then there is the obvious flailing about to get a counterwagon to sandro, which compared to my feelings of basic indifference seems scummy.

Bonus points is that a Mocsta/scott team makes entire sense from the progression of day one.

Mocsta attacked me day 1 when I was pushing scott, classic chainsaw defense

He then joined the scott push when it was really clear that it was not going to result in anything.

And now he is voting with scott on his former top town read, without the scum read really progressing to a town read in a way that makes sense.

and further, scott's reasoning on me being mafia has become "because I am allergic to voting mafia" which is itself scummy and works with mocsta town because:

1>) he has never cleared DMB and has ALWAYS hedged on her alignment, so he is basically slipping there

2.) he is not considering mocsta as mafia who also did not vote for sandro, and in fact was the most vocal opponent of the lynch and is in fact voting with him.

its pretty clear to me that these are the last two mafia, but if i need to die for their lynches to happen that works, cause I don't have the time to convince people or make huge cases or anything.


"Mocsta attacked me day 1 when I was pushing scott, classic chainsaw defense"

No, you posted before rsoutin and trfel had a defense of scott you did not understand

Link Mocsta's quotes of "Mocsta attacked me day 1 when I was pushing scott, classic chainsaw defense"

"Basically I went through mocsta's case and then read my own filter and thought: "is this a reasonable reason to 180 his town read on me? is this a good faith interpretation of the facts of the matter?" and decided No , so he must be mafia."

I believe Sandroba had not posted in between when your reads have changed. So they were pretty unreasonable.

"1>) he has never cleared DMB and has ALWAYS hedged on her alignment, so he is basically slipping there"

misrepresentation. again.

2.) he is not considering mocsta as mafia who also did not vote for sandro, and in fact was the most vocal opponent of the lynch and is in fact voting with him.

My mindset is he is blue - It'll figure out itself D4. He could be mafia - I'm waiting for other townies.

It's pretty clear that you are still, after attempting to lynch me D1 - and muddying the waters, you are still mafia. Oats had a solid mindset, he's dead now. GG

AZ, your mindset is unreasonable from a town mindset.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 04:03 GMT
#3658
On June 13 2024 13:02 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 12:59 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 13 2024 12:57 Mocsta wrote:
Lots of brush off

Push pull as thread sentiment evolved is labeled as inaccurate representation.

Yet the case is your posts with colours for emphasis - nothing more

Dodge and reframe

Accuses me of being teamed with Scott for voting with a former scum read even though we have only aligned when I have town read Scott

Worse this point reflects to alphazero as a hypocrite who voted with his "actual" scum read sandroba


when did you town read scott, and what happened for this town read to develop?

The rest is just bluster
nothing I have done is unchanged from my vote count with colours

I have constantly talked of Scott beboping around being a town indicator for me
And his shift over the past 24hrs to not bebop makes absolute sense as town because more information means the game.feels closer to being solved


He hasn't done that. His top scum read hasn;t changed all game really.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 13 2024 04:04 GMT
#3659
Whatever, im not going to shit up the thread fighting with two mafia.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 13 2024 04:05 GMT
#3660
On June 13 2024 12:59 Mocsta wrote:
Wtf is this blatant lie alpha

I voted with sandroba?

Lol.. the end of day count clearly shows you are talking about yourself along with vivax


Quote this please when you accuse of such
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
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