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On June 13 2024 12:36 scott31337 wrote:
Trfel I think you are tunneled on DMB
She could be like x% mafia in my book?
Did you read my n2 post?
There's a very low chance we were on mafia/mafia by numbers Yes, I read your night two post.
I don't think I'm tunneled on die_meatbaby, I've made plenty of clear points and I don't have any strong reads regardless so how can I be tunneled on something if I'm not confident in anything?
Why do you want me to post uninformed opinions after I literally just told you I don't know anything?
@AlphaZero, if you're around for a moment, can you explain why you think Mocsta is mafia or point me towards previous explanations (sorry I forget)?
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On June 13 2024 12:35 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 12:33 scott31337 wrote:
Trfel if you are town lynch AlphaZero
Unless you have multiple reasons to read him town
You like to talk a lot
Tell me how AZ is town or vote with us What part of "I'm catching up, I don't know" is so hard to understand?
Then catch up.
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On June 13 2024 12:39 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 12:35 Trfel wrote:On June 13 2024 12:33 scott31337 wrote:
Trfel if you are town lynch AlphaZero
Unless you have multiple reasons to read him town
You like to talk a lot
Tell me how AZ is town or vote with us What part of "I'm catching up, I don't know" is so hard to understand? Then catch up. Then stop pestering me with stupid questions?!?!
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On June 13 2024 12:39 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 12:36 scott31337 wrote:
Trfel I think you are tunneled on DMB
She could be like x% mafia in my book?
Did you read my n2 post?
There's a very low chance we were on mafia/mafia by numbers Yes, I read your night two post. I don't think I'm tunnelled on die_meatbaby, I've made plenty of clear points and I don't have any strong reads regardless so how can I be tunnelled on something if I'm not confident in anything? Why do you want me to post uninformed opinions after I literally just told you I don't know anything? @AlphaZero, if you're around for a moment, can you explain why you think Mocsta is mafia or point me towards previous explanations (sorry I forget)?
Basically his read progression on my alignment.
I don't think his case was an accurate representation of my alignment.
and I don't understand why someone would fail to consider the IMO good reasons their prior town read could be town.
He was saying not long ago that I would get shot at night, now he is utterly convinced I am mafia. It just seems to me (knowing I am town) that he is knowingly pushing a mis lynch on town here.
Further, once I firmed up town read on rayn, his read on mocsta as mafia carried more weight.
Basically I went through mocsta's case and then read my own filter and thought: "is this a reasonable reason to 180 his town read on me? is this a good faith interpretation of the facts of the matter?" and decided No , so he must be mafia.
Then there is the obvious flailing about to get a counterwagon to sandro, which compared to my feelings of basic indifference seems scummy.
Bonus points is that a Mocsta/scott team makes entire sense from the progression of day one.
Mocsta attacked me day 1 when I was pushing scott, classic chainsaw defense
He then joined the scott push when it was really clear that it was not going to result in anything.
And now he is voting with scott on his former top town read, without the scum read really progressing to a town read in a way that makes sense.
and further, scott's reasoning on me being mafia has become "because I am allergic to voting mafia" which is itself scummy and works with mocsta town because:
1>) he has never cleared DMB and has ALWAYS hedged on her alignment, so he is basically slipping there
2.) he is not considering mocsta as mafia who also did not vote for sandro, and in fact was the most vocal opponent of the lynch and is in fact voting with him.
its pretty clear to me that these are the last two mafia, but if i need to die for their lynches to happen that works, cause I don't have the time to convince people or make huge cases or anything.
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On June 13 2024 12:36 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 12:35 Trfel wrote:
Like why would you want a half-baked opinion? How is that useful to you? Its because he is not interested in solving, he is pushing agenda.
I thought it was past your bed time where you were located.
Where are you located?
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On June 13 2024 12:51 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 12:36 AlphaZero wrote:On June 13 2024 12:35 Trfel wrote:
Like why would you want a half-baked opinion? How is that useful to you? Its because he is not interested in solving, he is pushing agenda. I thought it was past your bed time where you were located. Where are you located?
South Korea
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On June 13 2024 12:51 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 12:36 AlphaZero wrote:On June 13 2024 12:35 Trfel wrote:
Like why would you want a half-baked opinion? How is that useful to you? Its because he is not interested in solving, he is pushing agenda. I thought it was past your bed time where you were located. Where are you located?
See, he is uncomfortable with me pointing this out.
He wants me to go away 
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On June 13 2024 12:54 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 12:51 scott31337 wrote:On June 13 2024 12:36 AlphaZero wrote:On June 13 2024 12:35 Trfel wrote:
Like why would you want a half-baked opinion? How is that useful to you? Its because he is not interested in solving, he is pushing agenda. I thought it was past your bed time where you were located. Where are you located? See, he is uncomfortable with me pointing this out. He wants me to go away He's watching out for your best interests!
Side note, thanks for the explanation on Mocsta, I'll look into it more. You think Mocsta is more likely mafia than scott31337?
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Lots of brush off
Push pull as thread sentiment evolved is labeled as inaccurate representation.
Yet the case is your posts with colours for emphasis - nothing more
Dodge and reframe
Accuses me of being teamed with Scott for voting with a former scum read even though we have only aligned when I have town read Scott
Worse this point reflects to alphazero as a hypocrite who voted with his "actual" scum read sandroba
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On June 13 2024 12:57 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 12:54 AlphaZero wrote:On June 13 2024 12:51 scott31337 wrote:On June 13 2024 12:36 AlphaZero wrote:On June 13 2024 12:35 Trfel wrote:
Like why would you want a half-baked opinion? How is that useful to you? Its because he is not interested in solving, he is pushing agenda. I thought it was past your bed time where you were located. Where are you located? See, he is uncomfortable with me pointing this out. He wants me to go away He's watching out for your best interests! Side note, thanks for the explanation on Mocsta, I'll look into it more. You think Mocsta is more likely mafia than scott31337?
no I think they are both mafia.
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On June 13 2024 12:57 Mocsta wrote:
Lots of brush off
Push pull as thread sentiment evolved is labeled as inaccurate representation.
Yet the case is your posts with colours for emphasis - nothing more
Dodge and reframe
Accuses me of being teamed with Scott for voting with a former scum read even though we have only aligned when I have town read Scott
Worse this point reflects to alphazero as a hypocrite who voted with his "actual" scum read sandroba
when did you town read scott, and what happened for this town read to develop?
The rest is just bluster
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Wtf is this blatant lie alpha
I voted with sandroba?
Lol.. the end of day count clearly shows you are talking about yourself along with vivax
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Like I was clear that I voted DMB cause I thought it was the best option, and that would give more time for sandro to either shine through as town or become clear mafia.
I thought it was a clear loss if we lynched sandro and he was town.
nothing about that is about me voting with my scum read.
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On June 13 2024 12:59 Mocsta wrote:
Wtf is this blatant lie alpha
I voted with sandroba?
Lol.. the end of day count clearly shows you are talking about yourself along with vivax
What are you even talking about?
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On June 13 2024 12:59 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 12:57 Mocsta wrote:
Lots of brush off
Push pull as thread sentiment evolved is labeled as inaccurate representation.
Yet the case is your posts with colours for emphasis - nothing more
Dodge and reframe
Accuses me of being teamed with Scott for voting with a former scum read even though we have only aligned when I have town read Scott
Worse this point reflects to alphazero as a hypocrite who voted with his "actual" scum read sandroba when did you town read scott, and what happened for this town read to develop? The rest is just bluster nothing I have done is unchanged from my vote count with colours
I have constantly talked of Scott beboping around being a town indicator for me
And his shift over the past 24hrs to not bebop makes absolute sense as town because more information means the game.feels closer to being solved
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Like to boil down the essence of the reason that both scott and mocsta are mafia
They aren't trying to solve, because they aren't genuinely considering the reasons i could be town.
they are trying just trying to push a mislynch here.
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On June 13 2024 12:51 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 12:39 Trfel wrote:On June 13 2024 12:36 scott31337 wrote:
Trfel I think you are tunneled on DMB
She could be like x% mafia in my book?
Did you read my n2 post?
There's a very low chance we were on mafia/mafia by numbers Yes, I read your night two post. I don't think I'm tunnelled on die_meatbaby, I've made plenty of clear points and I don't have any strong reads regardless so how can I be tunnelled on something if I'm not confident in anything? Why do you want me to post uninformed opinions after I literally just told you I don't know anything? @AlphaZero, if you're around for a moment, can you explain why you think Mocsta is mafia or point me towards previous explanations (sorry I forget)? Basically his read progression on my alignment. I don't think his case was an accurate representation of my alignment. and I don't understand why someone would fail to consider the IMO good reasons their prior town read could be town. He was saying not long ago that I would get shot at night, now he is utterly convinced I am mafia. It just seems to me (knowing I am town) that he is knowingly pushing a mis lynch on town here. Further, once I firmed up town read on rayn, his read on mocsta as mafia carried more weight. Basically I went through mocsta's case and then read my own filter and thought: "is this a reasonable reason to 180 his town read on me? is this a good faith interpretation of the facts of the matter?" and decided No , so he must be mafia. Then there is the obvious flailing about to get a counterwagon to sandro, which compared to my feelings of basic indifference seems scummy. Bonus points is that a Mocsta/scott team makes entire sense from the progression of day one. Mocsta attacked me day 1 when I was pushing scott, classic chainsaw defense He then joined the scott push when it was really clear that it was not going to result in anything. And now he is voting with scott on his former top town read, without the scum read really progressing to a town read in a way that makes sense. and further, scott's reasoning on me being mafia has become "because I am allergic to voting mafia" which is itself scummy and works with mocsta town because: 1>) he has never cleared DMB and has ALWAYS hedged on her alignment, so he is basically slipping there 2.) he is not considering mocsta as mafia who also did not vote for sandro, and in fact was the most vocal opponent of the lynch and is in fact voting with him. its pretty clear to me that these are the last two mafia, but if i need to die for their lynches to happen that works, cause I don't have the time to convince people or make huge cases or anything.
"Mocsta attacked me day 1 when I was pushing scott, classic chainsaw defense"
No, you posted before rsoutin and trfel had a defense of scott you did not understand
Link Mocsta's quotes of "Mocsta attacked me day 1 when I was pushing scott, classic chainsaw defense"
"Basically I went through mocsta's case and then read my own filter and thought: "is this a reasonable reason to 180 his town read on me? is this a good faith interpretation of the facts of the matter?" and decided No , so he must be mafia."
I believe Sandroba had not posted in between when your reads have changed. So they were pretty unreasonable.
"1>) he has never cleared DMB and has ALWAYS hedged on her alignment, so he is basically slipping there"
misrepresentation. again.
2.) he is not considering mocsta as mafia who also did not vote for sandro, and in fact was the most vocal opponent of the lynch and is in fact voting with him.
My mindset is he is blue - It'll figure out itself D4. He could be mafia - I'm waiting for other townies.
It's pretty clear that you are still, after attempting to lynch me D1 - and muddying the waters, you are still mafia. Oats had a solid mindset, he's dead now. GG
AZ, your mindset is unreasonable from a town mindset.
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On June 13 2024 13:02 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2024 12:59 AlphaZero wrote:On June 13 2024 12:57 Mocsta wrote:
Lots of brush off
Push pull as thread sentiment evolved is labeled as inaccurate representation.
Yet the case is your posts with colours for emphasis - nothing more
Dodge and reframe
Accuses me of being teamed with Scott for voting with a former scum read even though we have only aligned when I have town read Scott
Worse this point reflects to alphazero as a hypocrite who voted with his "actual" scum read sandroba when did you town read scott, and what happened for this town read to develop? The rest is just bluster nothing I have done is unchanged from my vote count with colours I have constantly talked of Scott beboping around being a town indicator for meAnd his shift over the past 24hrs to not bebop makes absolute sense as town because more information means the game.feels closer to being solved
He hasn't done that. His top scum read hasn;t changed all game really.
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Whatever, im not going to shit up the thread fighting with two mafia.
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On June 13 2024 12:59 Mocsta wrote:
Wtf is this blatant lie alpha
I voted with sandroba?
Lol.. the end of day count clearly shows you are talking about yourself along with vivax
Quote this please when you accuse of such
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