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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
June 10 2024 01:24 GMT
#2221
On June 10 2024 10:15 Vivax wrote:
AZ has that bond villain vibe he must be scum.


Looks less bad to me on review. It‘s very calculated posting which bothers me. But progression looks fine.

Guess I‘m just struggling with the character. Might retract the scumread altogether at least for D2.

Slam/Scott/Moc on the table seems ok to me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
June 10 2024 01:24 GMT
#2222
Sandro needs to comeback
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:29 GMT
#2223
I still have no idea who oats thinks is mafia.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:34 GMT
#2224
On June 10 2024 10:29 AlphaZero wrote:
I still have no idea who oats thinks is mafia.


I take it back he thinks dmb is mafia. Maybe that’s fine.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 10 2024 01:37 GMT
#2225
I think he thinks Alakaslam is mafia? Bottom of the second to last page of his filter?

Side note, I kinda like how Oatsmaster dismissed my post and Vivax ignored it. And they're both not committing to a stance on raynpelikoneet. Makes me think we might be on to something.

The biggest lesson of all though seems to be that the game is just infinitely easier to play if AlphaZero agrees with you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
June 10 2024 01:41 GMT
#2226
On June 10 2024 10:37 Trfel wrote:
I think he thinks Alakaslam is mafia? Bottom of the second to last page of his filter?

Side note, I kinda like how Oatsmaster dismissed my post and Vivax ignored it. And they're both not committing to a stance on raynpelikoneet. Makes me think we might be on to something.

The biggest lesson of all though seems to be that the game is just infinitely easier to play if AlphaZero agrees with you.


I have a hard time taking your opinions as serious so I assume you just want to play with me a la me fake voting rayn on D1 and the best answer to that is to ignore it until you get serious.

Maybe you‘ll tell me you‘re serious but I still wouldn‘t believe you.
But it‘s entertaining
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 10 2024 01:41 GMT
#2227
On June 10 2024 10:34 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 10:29 AlphaZero wrote:
I still have no idea who oats thinks is mafia.


I take it back he thinks dmb is mafia. Maybe that’s fine.


He just posted Mocsta in red also.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 10 2024 01:42 GMT
#2228
On June 10 2024 10:41 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 10:37 Trfel wrote:
I think he thinks Alakaslam is mafia? Bottom of the second to last page of his filter?

Side note, I kinda like how Oatsmaster dismissed my post and Vivax ignored it. And they're both not committing to a stance on raynpelikoneet. Makes me think we might be on to something.

The biggest lesson of all though seems to be that the game is just infinitely easier to play if AlphaZero agrees with you.


I have a hard time taking your opinions as serious so I assume you just want to play with me a la me fake voting rayn on D1 and the best answer to that is to ignore it until you get serious.

Maybe you‘ll tell me you‘re serious but I still wouldn‘t believe you.
But it‘s entertaining
And I'm supposed to think you are town why, again?
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 10 2024 01:42 GMT
#2229
On June 10 2024 10:37 Trfel wrote:
I think he thinks Alakaslam is mafia? Bottom of the second to last page of his filter?

Side note, I kinda like how Oatsmaster dismissed my post and Vivax ignored it. And they're both not committing to a stance on raynpelikoneet. Makes me think we might be on to something.

The biggest lesson of all though seems to be that the game is just infinitely easier to play if AlphaZero agrees with you.


Is that why it feels like climbing an ice coated vertical mountain for me?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 10 2024 01:43 GMT
#2230
On June 10 2024 10:42 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 10:37 Trfel wrote:
I think he thinks Alakaslam is mafia? Bottom of the second to last page of his filter?

Side note, I kinda like how Oatsmaster dismissed my post and Vivax ignored it. And they're both not committing to a stance on raynpelikoneet. Makes me think we might be on to something.

The biggest lesson of all though seems to be that the game is just infinitely easier to play if AlphaZero agrees with you.


Is that why it feels like climbing an ice coated vertical mountain for me?
Quite possibly, yeah
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
June 10 2024 01:44 GMT
#2231
On June 10 2024 10:42 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 10:41 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2024 10:37 Trfel wrote:
I think he thinks Alakaslam is mafia? Bottom of the second to last page of his filter?

Side note, I kinda like how Oatsmaster dismissed my post and Vivax ignored it. And they're both not committing to a stance on raynpelikoneet. Makes me think we might be on to something.

The biggest lesson of all though seems to be that the game is just infinitely easier to play if AlphaZero agrees with you.


I have a hard time taking your opinions as serious so I assume you just want to play with me a la me fake voting rayn on D1 and the best answer to that is to ignore it until you get serious.

Maybe you‘ll tell me you‘re serious but I still wouldn‘t believe you.
But it‘s entertaining
And I'm supposed to think you are town why, again?


I don‘t care if you think I am town.
I do my thing but it‘s not going to be to explain to you why I am.
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:46 GMT
#2232
On June 10 2024 10:41 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 10:34 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 10:29 AlphaZero wrote:
I still have no idea who oats thinks is mafia.


I take it back he thinks dmb is mafia. Maybe that’s fine.


He just posted Mocsta in red also.


Yeah but that kind of felt like hyperbole to me.

But fair point.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 10 2024 01:47 GMT
#2233
On June 10 2024 10:44 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 10:42 Trfel wrote:
On June 10 2024 10:41 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2024 10:37 Trfel wrote:
I think he thinks Alakaslam is mafia? Bottom of the second to last page of his filter?

Side note, I kinda like how Oatsmaster dismissed my post and Vivax ignored it. And they're both not committing to a stance on raynpelikoneet. Makes me think we might be on to something.

The biggest lesson of all though seems to be that the game is just infinitely easier to play if AlphaZero agrees with you.


I have a hard time taking your opinions as serious so I assume you just want to play with me a la me fake voting rayn on D1 and the best answer to that is to ignore it until you get serious.

Maybe you‘ll tell me you‘re serious but I still wouldn‘t believe you.
But it‘s entertaining
And I'm supposed to think you are town why, again?


I don‘t care if you think I am town.
I do my thing but it‘s not going to be to explain to you why I am.
I mean you do you, but your thing is looking extremely mafia-motivated.

So many suspicious people, unfortunately it's hard to figure out who to lynch, they can't all be mafia Usually I have the reverse problem.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 10 2024 01:48 GMT
#2234
On June 10 2024 10:22 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 10:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 10 2024 10:14 Trfel wrote:
Obviously good is subjective but I would argue that anyone who knows anything about the game makes reads and posts their thoughts at night largely as if it was day. I mean, the TL Mafia guides say you should do this.

There are exceptions, like mayyybe you don't make a big post 30 minutes before the deadline, but in general, extra discussion time is considered more than worth giving mafia information for night kills. I'm honestly shocked that so many players have indicated that they are withholding information due to it being night, I thought most everyone knew that is just an inferior way to play.

Thoughts != push/hard conclusions

You can’t lynch anyone at night, that causes changes in play
Do you think raynpelikoneet is town?

At this point yeah
No gg, No skill.
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:53 GMT
#2235
Tier lists

S tier: Marv, trfel.

A tier: koshi Mocsta

B tier: oats

C tier: vivax, Rayn, slam

F tier: Scott, Sandro, dmb,

"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 10 2024 01:54 GMT
#2236
On June 10 2024 10:53 AlphaZero wrote:
Tier lists

S tier: Marv, trfel.

A tier: koshi Mocsta

B tier: oats

C tier: vivax, Rayn, slam

F tier: Scott, Sandro, dmb,



You would lynch DMB over Slam?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 01:58 GMT
#2237
On June 10 2024 10:54 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 10:53 AlphaZero wrote:
Tier lists

S tier: Marv, trfel.

A tier: koshi Mocsta

B tier: oats

C tier: vivax, Rayn, slam

F tier: Scott, Sandro, dmb,



You would lynch DMB over Slam?


It’s close but yeah
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 10 2024 01:59 GMT
#2238
Scotty's magic N1 post

So - first -

On June 09 2024 12:23 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2024 12:22 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2024 12:17 Vivax wrote:
With the Kelsier flip and if he‘s town, Scott starts becoming useful to mafia.


Of course he is now usefull for mafia... still easy lynch material
I am pretty sure we had t vs t lynch today.
Thats a reason why he will not get nk tonight.
But why do oats think that he wouldn´t get nk?
because im going to jailkeep him


Now I know scum had to have seen this and someone put it in their chat. And I have two theories -

1. Mocsta is the JK and will protect someone tonight (Said oats in the post)
I think this is the most realistic answer - but I do have some doubts.

I believe Mocsta will get shot tonight.

2. Mocsta fakeclaimed
Now Koshi has been going after Mocsta since he joined.
The other thing I want to ask this day also Koshi -
On June 10 2024 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Mocsta is playing very well if mafia.
My initial ping was that I read too many posts from him that didnt help me solve the game. And after reading his filter I didnt change my mind. If I would pnly fead Mocsta his filter I would probably have a very bad grasp on this game. Way worse than for example scott his filter.

And afterwards, you still call him mafia. So if you read his filter, you saw the post - and you still want to lynch him. So that tells me something.
And I'm willing to listen.

Order list - not lynching today
Trfel - Probably still top town. Still thinking things out even at night. I hope he was protected. Very curious who he wants to go after today also.
Koshi - I townread Rsoultin and I really townread Koshi. I want to hear Koshi's thoughts on the above first.
raynpelikoneet - He's asking questions and thinking about the game as well. I did read Trfel's post on him though and is worth reviewing.
Oatsmaster Oats is playing a lot different than his last game, and he also seems to be investigating/scumhunting.
Mocsta - I still feel he's town. Depending on Koshi, this could obviously change.
Vivax He's been acting a little weird N1, but has some good posts here and there.

Weaker
die_meatbaby - I'm still townleaning DMB, and the Vivax/DMB posting feels TvT to me. But you need to step it up and scumhunt today.
marvellosity - This is so tough. I don't know any recent marv games, but back in the day when we played, he was very timid as scum. This marv is not. But this marv also comes up with indifferent scumreads and is in the bed with AZ. So weird.

Would lynch order
Sandroba - enough said. There hasn't been any new posts from Sandroba from my last one.
Alakaslam Filter is very meh. Marv townread, AZ townread, scumread me. Had one okay post and the rest has not been.
AlphaZero A very good player that has my spider senses on alert. A few other townies have a bit of suspicion also on him, but not enough to really matter yet. I'm very curious of who he goes after today.

THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 10 2024 01:59 GMT
#2239
die_meatbaby on Vivax
On June 08 2024 09:04 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2024 08:17 AlphaZero wrote:
I’ll lynch vivax with you oats.

Vote:vivax



Is first time you play with vivax?
I am used to always read vivax first because for me are 2 option with vivax
first when i am mafia I have to get him out of the game as fast as possibole
second is if i am town he is still the "easiest" read for me.
If vivax is mafia he just posting random shit, jokes, memes, off the topic stuff and hating the government of austria
if he is Town he actually trys to tell us his opinion, try to find scummy shit, beeing paranoid about chez but he is not in the game and hating the government of austria.

For me he looks like Town (atm)
you have any other scum reads?
Die_meatbaby's third post of the game. For what it's worth I don't think this is a terribly good way to read Vivax, but I'm curious if die_meatbaby follows this view throughout the game.
On June 10 2024 05:31 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 05:20 Vivax wrote:
One cannot not like Koshi.
He‘s the hypno-buddha in the flesh

fewer and fewer town points for you. Maybe I have to reread you filter.
you are paranoid about RL but not about the game. Thats kinda strange. I don´t like that
More posts to a similar effect but I'm running out of time. Now I need to check if Vivax's posting warrants the change but idk if I have time to do so

My guess is that it's debatable.

Gut feels say look at raynpelikoneet and Vivax most. Sandroba, die_meatbaby, Alakaslam, maybe scott31337 and Oatsmaster after that. No particular order on those.

Vivax is just.... so nonsensical? I am really struggling with how he could be town and be like this. I'm honestly willing to give Alakaslam more time when so many otehrs are so sus
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
June 10 2024 02:00 GMT
#2240
oh shit my nap was too long
if I die
sandro, az, vivax maybe mafia
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
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