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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 10 2024 09:57 Mocsta wrote: uhh don't do this mate Youre not on my radar. Surely I'm not at the top of yours Let's see how day2 goes please You can always retract your statement. I’m also waiting for your thoughts on the significant stuff you missed | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 10 2024 10:00 Trfel wrote: Might also be worth noting that raynpelikoneet's high post count, discussion heavy game without conclusions or real pushes matches his no scumread buddy-buddy play from Day 1 (before the period of inactivity Sadly I seem to have scared raynpelikoneet away  Was really curious how he would respond.Does it being night change anything for you | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On June 10 2024 10:01 Oatsmaster wrote: Night as in the phase, or night as in roughly 4a in Finland?Does it being night change anything for you The former, not at all. The latter, yes, which is why I was mostly joking. It is a bit disappointing since raynpelikoneet was present one minute before I posted, but it doesn't mean anything. | ||
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Vivax
21772 Posts
On June 10 2024 10:00 Trfel wrote: Might also be worth noting that raynpelikoneet's high post count, discussion heavy game without conclusions or real pushes matches his no scumread buddy-buddy play from Day 1 (before the period of inactivity Sadly I seem to have scared raynpelikoneet away Was really curious how he would respond.This isn‘t you at all lol | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
The first half is completely irrelevant. The point isn’t whether Scott is town or mafia, it’s if az and marv are town, why didn’t they get Scott lynched. With such a critical misunderstanding, it colors the whole post badly. Further more, it’s not really a thing to push people at night. Further further more, rayn was able to interact significantly with koshi/marv/az so saying that just because there’s no conclusion that Rayn is just interacting for interaction sake is just not correct | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On June 10 2024 10:06 Oatsmaster wrote: For the first part, raynpelikoneet literally said that if scott31337 is town, the whole thing about AlphaZero and marvellosity is meaningless. Even if you disagree, this is what raynpelikoneet thought, so shouldn't he play as if that is true?The first half is completely irrelevant. The point isn’t whether Scott is town or mafia, it’s if az and marv are town, why didn’t they get Scott lynched. With such a critical misunderstanding, it colors the whole post badly. Further more, it’s not really a thing to push people at night. Further further more, rayn was able to interact significantly with koshi/marv/az so saying that just because there’s no conclusion that Rayn is just interacting for interaction sake is just not correct The other points are more subjective I guess, but your first claim is just definitively wrong if I am reading it correctly. | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
On June 10 2024 10:06 Oatsmaster wrote: The first half is completely irrelevant. The point isn’t whether Scott is town or mafia, it’s if az and marv are town, why didn’t they get Scott lynched. With such a critical misunderstanding, it colors the whole post badly. Further more, it’s not really a thing to push people at night. Further further more, rayn was able to interact significantly with koshi/marv/az so saying that just because there’s no conclusion that Rayn is just interacting for interaction sake is just not correct I’m pretty sure Rayn scum hunts at night. I don’t agree that the other points aren’t valid. He is picking up on stuff that was bothering me at least | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On June 10 2024 10:01 Oatsmaster wrote: I can't retract itYou can always retract your statement. I’m also waiting for your thoughts on the significant stuff you missed I'm town so looks garbage to me You won't get the thoughts on significant stuff I have accepted being a sheep this cycle So will review wagon cases. Just need to wait | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 10 2024 10:10 Trfel wrote: For the first part, raynpelikoneet literally said that if scott31337 is town, the whole thing about AlphaZero and marvellosity is meaningless. Even if you disagree, this is what raynpelikoneet thought, so shouldn't he play as if that is true? The other points are more subjective I guess, but your first claim is just definitively wrong if I am reading it correctly. Semantics, rayn clearly argued regardless of Scott’s alignment | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On June 10 2024 10:07 Oatsmaster wrote: Mocsta why did you leave lmao I'm at work. Not even meant to be on lol When I woke to like 30pages over 6hrs of sleep I knew today was going to be rough! | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 10 2024 10:11 Mocsta wrote: I can't retract it I'm town so looks garbage to me You won't get the thoughts on significant stuff I have accepted being a sheep this cycle So will review wagon cases. Just need to wait ????? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
There are exceptions, like mayyybe you don't make a big post 30 minutes before the deadline, but in general, extra discussion time is considered more than worth giving mafia information for night kills. I'm honestly shocked that so many players have indicated that they are withholding information due to it being night, I thought most everyone knew that is just an inferior way to play. | ||
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Vivax
21772 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 10 2024 10:14 Trfel wrote: Obviously good is subjective but I would argue that anyone who knows anything about the game makes reads and posts their thoughts at night largely as if it was day. I mean, the TL Mafia guides say you should do this. There are exceptions, like mayyybe you don't make a big post 30 minutes before the deadline, but in general, extra discussion time is considered more than worth giving mafia information for night kills. I'm honestly shocked that so many players have indicated that they are withholding information due to it being night, I thought most everyone knew that is just an inferior way to play. Thoughts != push/hard conclusions You can’t lynch anyone at night, that causes changes in play | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
On June 10 2024 10:11 Oatsmaster wrote: Semantics, rayn clearly argued regardless of Scott’s alignment No he didn’t. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On June 10 2024 10:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Do you think raynpelikoneet is town?Thoughts != push/hard conclusions You can’t lynch anyone at night, that causes changes in play | ||
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