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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
On June 10 2024 09:03 scott31337 wrote: I'll have it in my EoN post. As I mentioned, I'm pretty sure mafia saw what I saw, but just in case they didn't, there's no need for me to help them. And how was this related to being answer why you thought I was mafia? | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On June 10 2024 09:03 Trfel wrote: I think AlphaZero is saying that in general, when someone who is town gets one of their scumreads lynched and they flip town, it makes them think they might be wrong on other things too, if that makes sense? As in, if I was wrong on something, maybe I screwed up on more than just that one thing. Or at least re-evaluate/reconsider. Does Kelsi3r flipping town not give you the slightest bit of pause? Of course it gives me a little pause - but knowing it's a TvT wagon - it's not full of information either. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 10 2024 08:27 Mocsta wrote: 👍 I don't care if people want to call me scum It's the pairing of me and az or me and marv that's ridiculous Haven't posted on other substantial stuff because as you have pointed out, it's substantial You are doing the same thing btw but I still love ya  How am I doing the same thing? | ||
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Vivax
22089 Posts
On June 10 2024 09:05 Mocsta wrote: tone There's an anger/frustration that comes out that makes you feel like being back at school lol Part of why I found you scummy originally But I can understand in your smurf situation this being the case too Ah you know each other ? What school ? Not so ridiculous to pair you while I‘m reading this because you seem familiar with each other. | ||
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Vivax
22089 Posts
Gonna turn off my brain while playing vampire survivors. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Even if you want to consider me mafia Surely I could not be the first mafia candidate to be launched Qed. Pointless | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On June 10 2024 09:05 AlphaZero wrote: I want to know why you think Scott is town and what changed from you being on the same page as me In regards to him to you then town reading him and being suspicious of me. Cause it seemed it was just that vivax and koshi posted it and you sheeped them his case on p104, and i made up my mind on p105. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
On June 10 2024 09:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: his case on p104, and i made up my mind on p105. You thought his case was bad? | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
I don't think it's a town-weird or a mafia-weird, just a weird-weird, and it's really throwing me off. On June 10 2024 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: See the bolded. Raynpelikoneet goes into a huge argument with AlphaZero and marvellosity, saying that it's suspicious that they weren't able to get the lynch on their scumread, scott31337. However, raynpelikoneet also thinks scott31337 is town, and in the above quote he says that if scott31337 is town then marvellosity and AlphaZero not getting their lynch doesn't mean anything.I dont think Oats is mafia. Trfel, maybe? But no? Trfel is making posts why i could be mafia, i dont think he could fake that as well as he is posting about me, if he was mafia. I think it's healthy suspicion tbh, one that he would not go into as mafia. rsoultin (koshi)... idk tbh, rsoultin looked really townie, koshi does not at all. possible? You can see now, how my opinion of the D1 events turned immediately into you and marv? I still don't know if i am right, or not, but like... it is weird as fuck to me that scott didn't get lynched. If he is mafia, then someone surely did something. If he is town, then idk why any of this matters. Currently i am on board with you of him being mafia. On June 10 2024 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Not sure if I am reading this post correctly but it comes off to me like raynpelikoneet kinda thinks scott31337 may be town. Also note that this post was made before the previously quoted post. After this raynpelikoneet's view on scott31337 is surprisingly ambiguous, so it's possible that he hasn't made up his mind yet?Or maybe scott is mafia and i end up looking like an idiot, since i honestly doubt either of marv / AZ would do that as mafia with him. However it's easy to look youre "doing stuff" while actually you arent, when there is no mafia on the line of being lynched. On June 10 2024 07:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Finally ended up on this, several hours later.i dont think scott is mafia btw. On June 10 2024 08:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Seems to say that scott31337's case on AlphaZero is what made raynpelikoneet think scott31337 is town.Yes i think it was awful. I however think it was a case made by a townie. That said, my point is, why does raynpelikoneet focus so much into arguing with marvellosity and AlphaZero about how this can make them mafia when the whole thing is contingent on scott31337 being mafia, and raynpelikoneet is (at best) unsure about scott31337's alignment? Even with marvellosity and AlphaZero being in the thread and scott31337 not, that's an incredibly convoluted approach. I would absolutely expect someone with a town mindset to focus on scott31337's alignment, maybe mention the suspicion of the other two, but raynpelikoneet jumps way ahead in a very illogical manner. Also, raynpelikoneet being suspicious of AlphaZero doesn't sit right with me. He presented a reason why AlphaZero could be mafia if scott31337 is mafia, but then when he concludes that scott31337 is town, he has other "reasons" to suspect AlphaZero. Like this: On June 10 2024 08:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: I actually agree with AlphaZero that this kind of thing is nonsense. It's not helpful or productive. Maybe I'm making something out of nothing here, but the timing of it all feels a bit forced to me, the way that raynpelikoneet has to back off on his suspicions of AlphaZero due to starting to townread scott31337, but then has new reasons out of nowhere, except they aren't actually reasons.I dont think youre necessarily mafia, i think youre either pressing right or wrong shit, on scott, and i think youre wrong. Does it make you mafia? No. It does increase the possibility of you being mafia imo, in case scott is not mafia. As for why you could be mafia, i dont know who you are, i dont know if you can make these posts as mafia as well as town. Similarly as you seem to be approaching to me. I already said i think youre okay, but well.. not okay for me. You will have to deal with it i guess.He's certainly posted a lot since returning to the thread, about nine pages worth in eight hours which is kinda insane, but I'm not sure what he's done? He's certainly been existing in the thread and interacting, but I am very unimpressed by his analysis, I don't think he's posting any thoughts that are particularly useful. Maybe a better way to put it is that he's asking a lot of questions but not actually contributing much of his own? He investigated the idea of marvellosity and AlphaZero being mafia early on, but then largely dropped it. Then he eventually decided that scott31337 is town. And he doesn't have any other conclusions at all, and no investigation either really? For example, he asks why sandroba is mafia besides inactivity, then later says sandroba is worth considering. But he doesn't do anything about this. Just leaves it at a non-committal, who knows. In summary, I guess: 1. Illogical thought process to suspect marvellosity and AlphaZero with reasoning contingent on scott31337's alignment, while not seeming interested in scott31337's alignment first 2. Extremely high activity and involvement without actually having useful thoughts, and coming to minimal conclusions So yeah, upon review, I kinda do think it's a mafia-weird. | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
die_meatbaby: seemingly no drive to solve the game or contribute, constantly hiding behind excuses Alakaslam: said marvellosity is mafia but then later said he is town, said scott31337 is mafia, and that's literally it raynpelikoneet: seems to want to talk but doesn't want to figure anything out sandroba: lack of activity/involvement Vivax: no desire/interest in seeing his scumread (scott31337) lynched, instead talks about what scott31337 being town means or looking at other options Maybe Watch List (but probably not) scott31337 Oatsmaster | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On June 10 2024 09:45 AlphaZero wrote: Marvellosity or you 100% imo, town needs a leader.Medic toss a coin between trfel and Marv. | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
On June 10 2024 09:46 Trfel wrote: Marvellosity or you 100% imo, town needs a leader. You have been leading. Keep it up. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 10 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote: random quip with other substantial stuff is out Even if you want to consider me mafia Surely I could not be the first mafia candidate to be launched Qed. Pointless Prove it | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Youre not on my radar. Surely I'm not at the top of yours Let's see how day2 goes please | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 10 2024 09:35 AlphaZero wrote: I agree trfel. that is a good post. Not good post | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Sadly I seem to have scared raynpelikoneet away  Was really curious how he would respond. | ||
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