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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 09 2024 23:54 GMT
#2161
On June 10 2024 08:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 08:47 AlphaZero wrote:
Rayn is Scott just really bad? Is that why he is getting a pass here?

kind of but no, because last game he was really really good and made a case on mafia...
You're talking about the Paint game?

Not to bash on scott31337 but I'm not sure that a Paint game, especially that one given how it played out, is worth looking into very much. It's just very, very dissimilar to this game.
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 23:54 GMT
#2162
People having inexplicable reads should not be a thing that is allowed.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2024 23:55 GMT
#2163
On June 10 2024 08:51 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
AZ idk what to say, i think scott is town, i cant explain it.
If that's bad for me, fine.


You were the one who wanted to talk about why he is town no?

Yes. I was expecting you giving me some sort of baseline.
table for two on a tv tray
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 09 2024 23:55 GMT
#2164
Hm, I kinda think AlphaZero might be mafia, not really sure why but I think we'd better lynch him.

+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry, I couldn't resist
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 23:55 GMT
#2165
I mean I guess I’m just wrong because too many people say that I am and they cannot all be mafia.

But I’m going to one super pissed if I am right and all you bads defended him for no reason.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 23:56 GMT
#2166
On June 10 2024 08:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 08:51 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
AZ idk what to say, i think scott is town, i cant explain it.
If that's bad for me, fine.


You were the one who wanted to talk about why he is town no?

Yes. I was expecting you giving me some sort of baseline.


I already have.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
June 09 2024 23:56 GMT
#2167
On June 10 2024 08:54 AlphaZero wrote:
People having inexplicable reads should not be a thing that is allowed.


It‘s really irritating to mafia though.

They‘ll be like ‚tell me why‘ and put on the backstreet boys because they don‘t know how to answer
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 23:56 GMT
#2168
On June 10 2024 08:56 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 08:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:51 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
AZ idk what to say, i think scott is town, i cant explain it.
If that's bad for me, fine.


You were the one who wanted to talk about why he is town no?

Yes. I was expecting you giving me some sort of baseline.


I already have.


You literally agreed with it when you first came into the thread.
So what changed?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2024 23:57 GMT
#2169
On June 10 2024 08:56 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 08:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:51 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
AZ idk what to say, i think scott is town, i cant explain it.
If that's bad for me, fine.


You were the one who wanted to talk about why he is town no?

Yes. I was expecting you giving me some sort of baseline.


I already have.

Okay i am gonna re check that. Gimme a sec.
table for two on a tv tray
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 09 2024 23:58 GMT
#2170
On June 10 2024 08:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 08:54 AlphaZero wrote:
People having inexplicable reads should not be a thing that is allowed.


It‘s really irritating to mafia though.

They‘ll be like ‚tell me why‘ and put on the backstreet boys because they don‘t know how to answer


No it’s bad for town because mafia can say whatever and not be accountable. It should be policy lynch able in all honesty.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 09 2024 23:59 GMT
#2171
On June 10 2024 07:51 Trfel wrote:
@Scott31337, can I ask about this part of your case in particular?
Show nested quote +
Here he casts more doubt - I lynched my top scumread and that flipped town, so let's go for my #2 scumread!
Now from AZ's perspective if he's mafia (and I still believe he is) he would consider his scrumreads town (Unless they are terrible). Sandroba is a good example.
I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to say here. Particularly the second sentence.
The rest of the case I think I see what you're trying to say, but you lost me here.

Trfel-
So what I was trying to say is that from AZ's perspective, I'm just going in order of my scum list (In his eyes, his townlist) just to get mislynch #1, #2, #3, GG etc. But I'm going after who I believe has the best chance of flipping mafia.

And the second part is that AZ considers his mafia team town (I think I used the wrong word there, not scumreads) to protect them. Sandroba is a good example of such.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:00 GMT
#2172
On June 10 2024 08:59 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:51 Trfel wrote:
@Scott31337, can I ask about this part of your case in particular?
Here he casts more doubt - I lynched my top scumread and that flipped town, so let's go for my #2 scumread!
Now from AZ's perspective if he's mafia (and I still believe he is) he would consider his scrumreads town (Unless they are terrible). Sandroba is a good example.
I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to say here. Particularly the second sentence.
The rest of the case I think I see what you're trying to say, but you lost me here.

Trfel-
So what I was trying to say is that from AZ's perspective, I'm just going in order of my scum list (In his eyes, his townlist) just to get mislynch #1, #2, #3, GG etc. But I'm going after who I believe has the best chance of flipping mafia.

And the second part is that AZ considers his mafia team town (I think I used the wrong word there, not scumreads) to protect them. Sandroba is a good example of such.


You know I’m number 2 right. And Kelsier was town’.

So already I know that is two townies. And that’s all I really mentioned in that post you quoted.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
June 10 2024 00:00 GMT
#2173
On June 10 2024 08:58 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 08:56 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:54 AlphaZero wrote:
People having inexplicable reads should not be a thing that is allowed.


It‘s really irritating to mafia though.

They‘ll be like ‚tell me why‘ and put on the backstreet boys because they don‘t know how to answer


No it’s bad for town because mafia can say whatever and not be accountable. It should be policy lynch able in all honesty.


Yeah I get it. But it‘s still information.

I‘m more wary of someone writing a lot while having fuck all opinions about alignments.
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:01 GMT
#2174
Scott who is getting night killed in your opinion?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 10 2024 00:02 GMT
#2175
wait what are you actually concerned about AZ?
table for two on a tv tray
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 10 2024 00:03 GMT
#2176
On June 10 2024 08:59 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 07:51 Trfel wrote:
@Scott31337, can I ask about this part of your case in particular?
Here he casts more doubt - I lynched my top scumread and that flipped town, so let's go for my #2 scumread!
Now from AZ's perspective if he's mafia (and I still believe he is) he would consider his scrumreads town (Unless they are terrible). Sandroba is a good example.
I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to say here. Particularly the second sentence.
The rest of the case I think I see what you're trying to say, but you lost me here.

Trfel-
So what I was trying to say is that from AZ's perspective, I'm just going in order of my scum list (In his eyes, his townlist) just to get mislynch #1, #2, #3, GG etc. But I'm going after who I believe has the best chance of flipping mafia.

And the second part is that AZ considers his mafia team town (I think I used the wrong word there, not scumreads) to protect them. Sandroba is a good example of such.
I think AlphaZero is saying that in general, when someone who is town gets one of their scumreads lynched and they flip town, it makes them think they might be wrong on other things too, if that makes sense?

As in, if I was wrong on something, maybe I screwed up on more than just that one thing. Or at least re-evaluate/reconsider.

Does Kelsi3r flipping town not give you the slightest bit of pause?
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:03 GMT
#2177
On June 10 2024 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wait what are you actually concerned about AZ?


With what?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 10 2024 00:03 GMT
#2178
On June 10 2024 09:01 AlphaZero wrote:
Scott who is getting night killed in your opinion?


I'll have it in my EoN post. As I mentioned, I'm pretty sure mafia saw what I saw, but just in case they didn't, there's no need for me to help them.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 10 2024 00:05 GMT
#2179
On June 10 2024 08:49 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote:
On June 10 2024 08:44 AlphaZero wrote:
There are several people calling me mafia, or at least alluding to it and they haven’t posted one tangible reason why that read exists. It’s fucking annoying.
If you flipped scum.it would be like the great hood wink.. shoulda coulda woulda

Your scum hunting insight is consistent to me
But your communication delivery is inconsistent and falls into almost polite demanding at times - something I would like to be better at in real life btw. So kudos to you

I am guessing that is leading people to be wary of the if you flipped scum thing

Either that or mafia agenda to discredit obviously


What’s inconsistent about my communication particularly?
tone
There's an anger/frustration that comes out that makes you feel like being back at school lol

Part of why I found you scummy originally

But I can understand in your smurf situation this being the case too
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 10 2024 00:05 GMT
#2180
On June 10 2024 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wait what are you actually concerned about AZ?


I want to know why you think Scott is town and what changed from you being on the same page as me In regards to him to you then town reading him and being suspicious of me.

Cause it seemed it was just that vivax and koshi posted it and you sheeped them
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
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