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I'm happy to answer any questions as best I can as well.
In a few I'm going to take a nap/rest and be back a few hours before deadline.
I'm content with my vote on keisl3r still at this time.
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On June 07 2024 12:50 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 12:45 Trfel wrote:On June 07 2024 12:44 scott31337 wrote:On June 07 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:
The real question here is if we are lynching scott31337 today or waiting until tomorrow? Go find the real mafia. Unless you already know who they are  It would be easier if you would stop pretending to be mafia  Why tell me to go find mafia when you can (presumably) do it yourself? Scumslip See you already know I'm "pretending" to be mafia. I already know I'm town. Do you see me driving discussion? I've been looking since 10pm.
Was this scumslip thing serious?
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On June 09 2024 05:46 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 21:01 rsoultin wrote:On June 08 2024 20:54 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 20:52 rsoultin wrote:
Cause now i have to try and convince someone objectively scummy =/= scum and thats exhausting Yes yes, everyone knows that. Yet thats how i perceive your scott case I also find it genuinely mindboggling how anyone is hard townreading sandy like you and marv are and yet i think you're town so pfft This is defintely on my mind as well... Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 21:16 AlphaZero wrote:
I want to lynch Scott unless he comes back and shits town flavored rainbows. 🌈
That make sense trfel?? What kind of rainbows would you like to see? Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 21:24 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 21:20 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 21:18 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 21:16 AlphaZero wrote:
I want to lynch Scott unless he comes back and shits town flavored rainbows. 🌈
That make sense trfel?? Yes and no, I understand that this is your perspective, but I disagree that doing so makes sense In my opinion this is the towniest game I've ever seen scott31337 play. I'm just not very inclined to lynch him in it tbh. What do you propose then trfel? Kelsier lynch? It’s almost policy at this point. Yes, I've made it pretty clear that I want to lynch Kelsi3r. I don't think any other lynch is anywhere near as good. I don't think it's policy at all, honestly to me it looks most like either: 1 - he got bullied out of the thread or 2 - he got caught and lost motivation to post Obviously I think it's the latter, though if there is reasoning for the former I am willing to reconsider. Policy is lynching someone for activity or something like that. Kelsi3r was around, walked himself into a hole, got caught, and THEN stopped posting. Very, very different. This was something I noted as well, and one of the reasons I would like to lynch Kelsi3r for the time being. He has not posted since you wrote this message either. Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 23:16 Vivax wrote:On June 08 2024 08:29 scott31337 wrote:I've read the thread but I've had a long day at work as well, so am a bit tired. I searched my name in Alpha's filter - 20 times at the moment And if you have been paying attention - keeps calling me scummy. I search for Vivax - On June 07 2024 12:12 AlphaZero wrote:
Vivax looks town. 20 hours ago The rest is quotes from Vivax or others saying his name. A post an hour ago Vivax I think is not consistently giving me good reasons to town read him And now he votes for him. But AZ has been calling me scummy all game so far. Seems suspicious to me. The timing of this post was a bit suspicious because AZ and Oats were going at me at the time so it might have led me to be pocketed by Scott playing devil's advocate. I don't feel like this is going to be an easy game. The timing was AZ going after me and changing his vote to someone else. This would be better read in context (post link) instead of filter. I still am lost about the "Vivax read" stuff. Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 05:23 AlphaZero wrote:
If one of these guys is town we are going to mislynch.
What town agenda is this from? It's extremely rare you find two mafia D1. And I know I'm town. Like to me posting this is just muddying the waters and shitting in it.
Scott, what this means is if there’s a mafia between you two then they will be able to shift the vote on to the townie due to the nature of the wagons.
Tbh if Scott plays and kelsier doesn’t I may change my vote 🤷♂️
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Inactivity of a few players is going to kill us here tbh.
D1 hard enough without missing a handful.
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On June 08 2024 04:00 Kelsi3r wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 03:09 Trfel wrote:Worst List Post of All TimeTownMaybe Townrsoultin + Show Spoiler +It's very easy to follow her thought process. raynpelikoneet + Show Spoiler +Raynpelikoneet is generally helpful, but in this game, he's shown original/unique thought, as opposed to just "normal" lines of reasoning. Mocsta + Show Spoiler +This is a dangerous read since I'm having a bit of a hard time understanding what Mocsta is getting at sometimes and I don't have the focus to try and wade through it and actually figure it out, but I still like how Mocsta is very willing to go against the thread sentiment. Mafia can imitate this but I think it's much less likely. Oatsmaster + Show Spoiler +Oatsmaster's posting has trended towards my expectations for him, as described here. Unfortunately, I have no idea what that means with regards to Oatsmaster's alignment. Congratulations on wasting your time reading this scott31337 + Show Spoiler +Made you look die_meatbaby sandroba marvellosity + Show Spoiler +I dunno. Really like his posting style, funniest person in the game by far. But I don't actually like this thoughts all that much, which makes me sad  Specifically the post on rsoultin that raynpelikoneet just quoted, I was going to say the same thing. It's very easy to point fingers and say "that person hasn't done anything yet!" when the person in question was only present for the first four and a half pages of the game, when there isn't that much to be done. It's hard for me to understand how marvellosity (of all people) could completely miss this. Feels like taking a cheap shot to discredit someone and make yourself look better. Vivax + Show Spoiler +He hasn't really made much of an impression to me yet, to be honest. AlphaZero + Show Spoiler +Not sure. Opening posts seem quite reasonable, but I have a much harder time following the thinking after. Alakaslam + Show Spoiler +On June 08 2024 02:27 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 22:47 Alakaslam wrote:
Hijole how did I forget this
My work, my work! Don't post too much!
I shall return
When I come back, I expect to see much vote alakaslam based on this... but I can do no different! Uh, maybe I'm falling into the Chezinu trap with Alakaslam, but I actually think this is suspicious? Like, forgetting about the game or going to work or not posting isn't suspicious at all. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Also, Alakaslam is one of those people who likes to post as mafia, so him not posting isn't a mafia indicator IMO regardless. What is suspicious is the self awareness. Specifically I am looking at a few games ago, it was a Grackaroni game where he invited everyone to the Discord server and Alakaslam was one of the first three people to join. So when three people joined, he thought that was the mafia Discord server and that he was mafia with them, and he said something like "I can't play for a few hours so go ahead and bus me for a while" which IMO doesn't make much sense, who pushes someone for being away for a few hours? But it shows that Alakaslam is exceptionally self-aware/self-conscious as mafia, particularly about activity levels. Unfortunately I can't say that Alakaslam isn't like this as town. I haven't seen anything to indicate that he has this mindset as town, but it's still possible. Regardless though I think it's worth keeping in mind. Kelsi3r + Show Spoiler +I admit that I struggled a bit to understand Kelsi3r and Mocsta's discussion but my initial point still stands. On June 07 2024 19:27 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 16:44 Kelsi3r wrote:
I enjoyed Alpha Zero pointing out that scott had basically answered his own question and giving it a red flag. I love shit like that.
What does it say about scott? I don't know
But rsoutlin also liked it so I guess I like Alpha and rsoultin at this early stage.
Trefl and rayn were posting a lot and having a discussion, i've always been a sucker for activity = town . But ngl I didn't read a lot of the posts and sort of glazed over.
That's an ok starting point.
Yeah idk. The more I think about this (plus his previous post where he says he doesn't like Vivax) the more I am suspicious. If Kelsi3r doesn't know what AlphaZero's point about scott31337 means with regards to scott31337's alignment, that should lead to there being less reason to townread AlphaZero (and also anyone else) for this reasoning, no? Of course you don't always have to agree with someone's reasoning to think it makes them look towny, but it certainly helps. Furthermore, I could understand it better if he just said that it made AlphaZero look better, since they were the first to clearly lay out that line of thinking. But to add on that rsoultin looks good, purely for agreeing, when Kelsi3r himself doesn't even know if the point means anything for scott31337's alignment? Seems out of place. And to add, the only person he said he didn't like, Vivax, also commented on this kind of idea. Vivax didn't put scott31337's posts in contrast like AlphaZero did, but he (rightfully) pointed out that one of scott31337's posts in question didn't make a ton of sense. It wasn't exactly the same idea, but it was somewhat similar, and this was (presumably) enough to make AlphaZero say that Vivax looks town. Kelsi3r seems to have ignored this entirely, however? New top suspect, I think. Idk, am I being too stubborn? I legitimately think that Kelsi3r is a valid suspect, and he hasn't done anything to give me pause yet. cant hate the amount of effort you put into this
This implies that he thought he should have had a reason to hate Trfel in the first place but Trfel is voting him so meh. Maybe other reasons than alignment.
It's like reading through someone slightly cooked.
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We can still flail for a little bit but consolidation time is coming
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On June 09 2024 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
I'm happy to answer any questions as best I can as well.
In a few I'm going to take a nap/rest and be back a few hours before deadline.
I'm content with my vote on keisl3r still at this time.
Thoughts on Sandro rayn and rsoul
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On June 09 2024 05:59 marvellosity wrote:
Inactivity of a few players is going to kill us here tbh.
D1 hard enough without missing a handful.
Sorry, I'll have more time tomorrow and will play properly.
Besides, I'm not so happy with both wagons.
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On June 09 2024 06:10 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 05:59 marvellosity wrote:
Inactivity of a few players is going to kill us here tbh.
D1 hard enough without missing a handful. Sorry, I'll have more time tomorrow and will play properly. Besides, I'm not so happy with both wagons.
Put out someone or maybe even a few you're willing to lynch instead otherwise this isn't productive.
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On June 09 2024 05:57 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 12:50 scott31337 wrote:On June 07 2024 12:45 Trfel wrote:On June 07 2024 12:44 scott31337 wrote:On June 07 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:
The real question here is if we are lynching scott31337 today or waiting until tomorrow? Go find the real mafia. Unless you already know who they are It would be easier if you would stop pretending to be mafia Why tell me to go find mafia when you can (presumably) do it yourself? Scumslip See you already know I'm "pretending" to be mafia. I already know I'm town. Do you see me driving discussion? I've been looking since 10pm. Was this scumslip thing serious?
I meant it at the time - but Trfel is one of my higher town reads now.
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On June 09 2024 06:08 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
I'm happy to answer any questions as best I can as well.
In a few I'm going to take a nap/rest and be back a few hours before deadline.
I'm content with my vote on keisl3r still at this time. Thoughts on Sandro rayn and rsoul
I haven't liked Sandroba from the start. Probably my #3 scum behind AZ. (Keis is 1st ATM)
Rsoul is a townlean at the moment and having quite a few of the same thoughts as I am.
Rayn is a slight town lean as well - but he is usually more inquisitive/scum hunting (like our last game) D1 - but with his announced commitment, I'm not lynching him today.
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On June 09 2024 06:10 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 05:59 marvellosity wrote:
Inactivity of a few players is going to kill us here tbh.
D1 hard enough without missing a handful. Sorry, I'll have more time tomorrow and will play properly. Besides, I'm not so happy with both wagons.
Well you still need to vote too
Who would you like to lynch today in a perfect world?
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On June 09 2024 06:10 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 05:59 marvellosity wrote:
Inactivity of a few players is going to kill us here tbh.
D1 hard enough without missing a handful. Sorry, I'll have more time tomorrow and will play properly. Besides, I'm not so happy with both wagons.
The last time you weren’t happy you were right tho, what’s a good wagon for you
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Oh wait nvm forgot jat was mafia
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On June 09 2024 06:25 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 06:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
I'm happy to answer any questions as best I can as well.
In a few I'm going to take a nap/rest and be back a few hours before deadline.
I'm content with my vote on keisl3r still at this time. Thoughts on Sandro rayn and rsoul I haven't liked Sandroba from the start. Probably my #3 scum behind AZ. (Keis is 1st ATM) Rsoul is a townlean at the moment and having quite a few of the same thoughts as I am. Rayn is a slight town lean as well - but he is usually more inquisitive/scum hunting (like our last game) D1 - but with his announced commitment, I'm not lynching him today.
Why do you not like Sandro?
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On June 08 2024 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 05:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think vivax is easily mafia here though, he’s playing super scared to make posts and has resorted to posting inane townreads probably first good post from you, keep up!
There's something comical in here I haven't quite decided what.
Maybe add Oats voting him now but iirc Oats was one of my 'inane townreads'.
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On June 09 2024 02:43 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 02:31 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 02:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 02:19 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 02:18 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 09 2024 02:07 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is Sandro not scum reading you rsoul? He’s definitely not townreaidng you based on the quotes you pulled. He also doesn’t trust Rayns read on you based on the quote you pulled that says “who else has rayns experience with rsoul” because i literally asked him who he wanted to lynch and i wasn't in his pile? Not really sure how that makes you a town read? Your point is invalid if he thinks you are null disagree Explain your point again with Sandro having you as null he should be scumreading me if he's town paranoid scumrso is doing him again, null is weaksauce. others in that list had to be nulls. now go poke elsewhere im going to sleep if you can't understand or disagree with me this wont get you anywhere and it def wont get me anywhere Why should he be scumreading you? Nobody good goes into games defaulting
okay
i'm saying from a town!sandro perspective all he remembers of me is when i tunneled him as scum and he ended up losing because he as he put it 'waffled and lost the game'. this is ground zero right before any other input. from his perspective this looks the same to him (or if it doesn't idk why he posted that). and yet when i ask him who he wants to lynch he of course says scott fine that's his scumread, then dbz when she'd only posted the one post that's gotta be a null read, and rayn for liking my 'terrible reasoning' without knowing what it is, moving him from a town lean which implies null but could mean scum. fair cops on all of those from a sandy town perspective, except i should 100% be in that group if he thinks this looks exactly like my scum game where i caused him to lose
that's not 'defaulting' into anything. that's a line of reasoning that makes no sense to me. if he doesn't want to lynch me as town!sandy seeing what he thinks is the same thing as my scum game, i'd expect a reason why and i don't see any other than oh rayn who he at least wasn't sure of a couple posts ago says the meta's different
like maybe i'm wrong on this but in my world sandy should be either convinced i'm scum or at least very paranoid about it
he has no thread presence
none
he was interacting with past game, up until the point people questioned him on his reads
and somehow lands on me as null for what he describes as a 'contrived' read on him because i seemed townie before? like literally all i did before was poke a little and that's the part of my filter marv decided i was doing nothing in that rayn and later truffle jumped on him for. who are sandy's other scumreads that make me just null for him at that point? i don't buy it
i mean tbf he did parrot my early reads which were like...everyone's lol ><
i could be wrong but i don't think so
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On June 09 2024 06:45 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 08 2024 05:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think vivax is easily mafia here though, he’s playing super scared to make posts and has resorted to posting inane townreads probably first good post from you, keep up! There's something comical in here I haven't quite decided what. Maybe add Oats voting him now but iirc Oats was one of my 'inane townreads'.
Nope try again
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dbz is dmb and my brain is so fucking dead guys -_- sorry
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